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Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
A SECRET AIRPLANE FLEW TO EREBUNI
by Svetlana Gamova, Sokhbet Mamedov
Nezavisimaya Gazeta
October 14, 2011
Russia
HIGHLIGHT: AZERBAIJAN DEMANDS INVESTIGATION INTO THE CASE OF SUPPLY
OF MOLDOVAN MISSILES TO ARMENIA; Baku proposed the Baltic Assembly to
investigate into the case of sale of Moldovan weapons through a Latvian
company to Armenia. The weapons were loaded into the airplane that flew
to Chisinau from Benghazi and departed, like it turned out, to Erebuni.
Baku proposed the Baltic Assembly to investigate into the case of
sale of Moldovan weapons through a Latvian company to Armenia. The
weapons were loaded into the airplane that flew to Chisinau from
Benghazi and departed, like it turned out, to Erebuni.
Recently, Elchin Guseinli, second secretary of the department of
security problems of the Foreign Ministry of Azerbaijan announced at
the international conference "Establishment of relations across the
borders" of GUAM and Baltic Assembly in Baku that Latvian company
Latspeceksports was involved into sale of weapons to Armenia. Along
with this, the representative of the Foreign Ministry called on the
parliament members of the Baltic Assembly participating in work of
the conference to investigate into this issue. Right after this the
Foreign Ministry of Latvia denied this information saying that not
a single Latvian company received a license for striking of the deal
with Moldovan weapons.
In turn, one of the presumed participants of this armament deal
unpleasant for Chisinau, Deputy Prime Minister Valery Lazer, chair
of the governmental commission for sale of assets of the national
army of Moldova, reported to OMEGA agency that the Latvian company
that bought 60 tons of Moldovan armament acted without a license.
This circumstance caused questions of the parliament that organized an
investigations commission. On the same day OMEGA published the response
of Transport Minister Anatol Salaru to the parliament members that
said that armament from Moldova was delivered to Erebuni (Armenia)
by Armenian air company AYK AVIA.
Sources in Moldova pointed out that according to the sale-purchase
of armament the buyer was supplied with 23 multiple rocket launcher
systems Uragan, 27 self-propelled antitank missile systems Shturm-S,
1,000 missiles and rockets. According to Azerbaijani military experts,
rockets for Uragan systems could be supplied from the Russian
ammunition depots in Trans-Dniester Republic.
[translated from Russian]
This is all but logical:
How can an airplane, make space for such an arsenal.
An airplane can at best charge 50-60 tons... but if we add this arsenal, we are welle above the 600 tons, at least, even if we consider that the ZIL trucks of the Uragans are abandoned, only the launchers are transported..
Each Uragan 20T x 23=460 T
Each shell 360 Kg, without its wooden box... that is, only 1000 shells, give 360 Tons..., let alone the rest
Plus, the truck of the Uragan, is rather specific, not like the Grad... you can not fix it on the average Ural...
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
This is all but logical:
How can an airplane, make space for such an arsenal.
An airplane can at best charge 50-60 tons... but if we add this arsenal, we are welle above the 600 tons, at least, even if we consider that the ZIL trucks of the Uragans are abandoned, only the launchers are transported..
Each Uragan 20T x 23=460 T
Each shell 360 Kg, without its wooden box... that is, only 1000 shells, give 360 Tons..., let alone the rest
Plus, the truck of the Uragan, is rather specific, not like the Grad... you can not fix it on the average Ural...
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
Originally posted by ArmeniaR1 View PostAn-225 got a Max takeoff weight of 640,000 kg And the An-124 405,000 kg
Max T/O weight: 1,332,750 Lbs (605,796 Kg)
Max Payload: 551,150 Lbs (250,523 Kg) which is about 275.5 Tons of cargo (each ton is 2000 Lbs)
Vrej is right, there is no way to carry that much cargo even with the AN-225 in a single shot.B0zkurt Hunter
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Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan
Does anyone know if the Armenian snipers still operate alone or are they now provided with backup (a spotter) when engaged in the field?
Originally posted by burjuin View PostB0zkurt Hunter
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