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  • #7321
    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by HyeFighter2 View Post
    what?kocharyan??? hahaha kocharyan and sargsyan are russia's men, they have no interesses in country but money, lets dont talk about our 3 devil prezidents, levon is bigest devil,xxxish devil!
    Levon in comparison is a traitor. Kocharian at least was strong in our security issues, he was a Patriot, not Levon.

    Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
    Mos,
    Do you know that Armenia-Iran border is under control or Russian soldiers and not Armenian?
    Azerbaijan cant attack on Syunik my friend unless they want to have war with Russians.
    I'm not a military expert yet...but I've been following the news for the last 10 years..not only Armenian-Azerbaijan news but whole global military and economic situations around the world since this is my profession.
    I know that Armenia-Iran/Armenia-Turkey border is guarded by Russians. But how does that apply to Naxijevan-Armenia border? Isn't that guarded by our men?

    Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
    Is that why Stepanakert also signed the ceasefire? Do you what kind of logistics is needed to attack the rest of Azerbaijan? There is a reason why the war was ended when it ended, because the people at the top who were seeing the full picture and it wasn't only politicians but also high ranking officers on both sides who decided to call a ceasefire and go to the negotiation table.
    My point is that we should have taken advantage of the fact that their military was pretty much non-existent. Of course there were economic pressures at the time, but the rewards for disabling Azerbaijan even more would be higher in the long run.

    How would he flatten the country? How would he drag his warriors that are used to fighting mostly in the mountains to the flat lands were the numbers and strength of arms play a bigger role? In 1994 both forces reached a point were neither could make any move without losing half of its army and maybe even the war. Azerbaijan and its leadership was realising that an other attack against Artsakh would mean the lose of even more men and armaments and Alijev knew that if the war wasn't stopped that there was a chance of a coup against him. The Armenian side knew that it didn't have the logistics or man power to push forward and attack Azerbaijan in its heartlands.
    Artsakh and its population had lived in a state of war for more than 6 years and the economical situation of Armenia was worsening with every passing day.
    I understand the logic behind the ceasefire, for both sides views, but the Azeri military was in a worse situation both morally and militarily. Russia was sending us weapons at that time to close the gap and we should have put out a strategy in punishing Azerbaijan and listing specific strategic goals to do so. For example, disabling their energy interests via sabotage or other means of attack. Liberating Shahumyan fully. Attacking Azeri refugees from Karabakh (as they would be used as propaganda against us). Of course we didn't have the power/logistics to occupy all of Azerbaijan, but given desire to do so, we could have accomplished some very useful things. This could not have been done with Levon the traitor of course.

    I am so tired that people are looking at everything on such a simplistic way. Do you really think Levon alone had the power to stop the war?
    Not him alone, but he definitely had a big hand in all of it.
    Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
    ---
    "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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    • #7322
      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by KarotheGreat View Post
      If a war starts the war will be confined in Artsakh because Azerbaijan will never be that crazy to attack Armenia, especially not from Nakhijevan. Such a move would give Armenia and Russia the casus beli to attack Nakhijevan without a Turkish response. Azerbaijan would not only lose Artsakh, drag Russia into a war but would also lose its only border with Turkey its closest ally.

      Yes Karo thats what i'm saying..and Mher i read them from magazines also from news..if i find something new i will try to scan it and post it here.and where do you mean??kurdish population whole around the world or in naxijevan?if around the world..it is "said" that only in western Armenia and within the border or iraq and iran there are 20m people..
      In Armenia there are..as of Census of 2011 there are 41,000 Yazdis(also kurds).

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      • #7323
        Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
        Yes Karo thats what i'm saying..and Mher i read them from magazines also from news..if i find something new i will try to scan it and post it here.and where do you mean??kurdish population whole around the world or in naxijevan?if around the world..it is "said" that only in western Armenia and within the border or iraq and iran there are 20m people..
        In Armenia there are..as of Census of 2011 there are 41,000 Yazdis(also kurds).
        No in nakhichevan, with hopes of them starting an independence movement against azerbaijan.

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        • #7324
          Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by Mher View Post
          No in nakhichevan, with hopes of them starting an independence movement against azerbaijan.
          Doubt it. Why would they? Without Azerbaijan they will be a poverty stricken island. Of course that is Armenian land given by the Bolsheviks and we should recognise that as a part of Armenia only.
          Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
          ---
          "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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          • #7325
            Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

            Don't expect anything from the meeting. Just another statement maybe.

            Kremlin: Russia seeks to promote trust in Karabakh settlement

            January 22, 2012 - 17:45 AMT
            PanARMENIAN.Net - Russian, Armenian and Azerbaijani presidents will meet to discuss the Nagorno Karabakh issue in Russia’s Black Sea resort of Sochi January 23, the Kremlin said.
            From 2008 on, Russia mediated 10 meetings on Karabakh issue, with the last one held June 24, 2011 in Kazan, where the conflicting parties managed to approximate positions on main principles of conflict settlement.
            However, the Kremlin expressed concern over increased instances of ceasefire violation, deaths among the servicemen and peaceful population as well as military rhetoric.
            According to Kremlin’s press service, Russia takes consistent efforts to promote trust between conflicting parties, urging for peaceful resolution of disputes and investigation of incidents at contact line within OSCE Minsk Group framework.
            Establishment of a dialogue between representatives of intellectual elite, scientific circles and public figures was noted among means to boost trust between the conflicting parties.
            On Monday, January 23, Russian President Dmitry Medvedev will hold bilateral meetings with Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan and his Azeri counterpart Ilham Aliyev.
            The meeting between Russian and Armenian leaders will focus on important aspects of strategic partnership.
            Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
            ---
            "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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            • #7326
              Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Armenian Army:





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              • #7327
                Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                tuk khosumek vonc vor henke hesht e azadagrele, hesht chibidi lini. Bayts, yete menk uzemenk azadagrelu masin khosank, amena garevor hoghe artsakhy hyusisne, vochte nakhichevan! naftagazi khoghovakasharernere betke hskenk!

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                • #7328
                  Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by arakeretzig View Post
                  tuk khosumek vonc vor henke hesht e azadagrele, hesht chibidi lini. Bayts, yete menk uzemenk azadagrelu masin khosank, amena garevor hoghe artsakhy hyusisne, vochte nakhichevan! naftagazi khoghovakasharernere betke hskenk!
                  hamadzayn em axper vor arstakhi hyusis@ amenakarevor hoghn a mer hamar, baic dra het el menk petk a chmoranank vor naxijevan@ mern a....
                  Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
                  ---
                  "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                  • #7329
                    Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Mos View Post
                    Levon in comparison is a traitor. Kocharian at least was strong in our security issues, he was a Patriot, not Levon.
                    The only president who worked is Serj.

                    Originally posted by Mos View Post
                    I know that Armenia-Iran/Armenia-Turkey border is guarded by Russians. But how does that apply to Naxijevan-Armenia border? Isn't that guarded by our men?
                    Mos,
                    yes it is guarded with Armenian soldiers..but if they want to claim Syunik?then what they have to do with the Russian soldiers in Iranian border? they will say please leave?no and finally Mos azerbeijan doesnt have war with Armenia but with NKR..If Azerbaijan attacks Armenia Russia will interfere.

                    Originally posted by Mher View Post
                    No in nakhichevan, with hopes of them starting an independence movement against azerbaijan.
                    Actually Naxijevan itself is trying to start independence movement against azerbaijan

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                    • #7330
                      Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Spetsnaz View Post
                      The only president who worked is Serj.
                      lol axper dzeres arnum? et narkoman@ mart kochvelu iravunk chuni,vor zhoxovrdi poxe kazinoneruma krvel

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