Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

[Karabed]

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Great (yester)day, 7 baboons killed:

7 Azeri soldiers killed in Azerbaijani act of sabotage
The Azerbaijani side lost seven soldiers, as a result of the Azerbaijani act of sabotage on August 31, NKR Defense Army Press Secretary Senor Hasratyan told NEWS.am.

The names of two Azerbaijani soldiers are clear-Vugar Amirov and Parvin Abdullayev (both born in 1991). Hasratyan said the incident details are being clarified and will be available to the public.

According to him, the publications in the Azerbaijani mass media, the Armenian side lost three soldiers, are untrue. Fortunately, the Armenian side incurred no losses, only private Rudik Manaseryan was injured in the skirmish.

As NEWS.am reported previously, on August 31, at about 6:30 a.m. Yerevan time, the Azeri side tried to commit another act of sabotage on the contact line between the Azeri and Nagorno-Karabakh armed forces. The Armenian soldiers spotted Azeri soldiers near Verin Chailu and threw them back, causing losses to the enemy.
http://news.am/eng/news/29419.html

[Artin]

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Russia will not deploy any new military base in Armenia, says defense minister

The defense pact recently signed with Russia is very important for Armenia, Seyran Ohanyan, the Defense Minister of Armenia, told journalists at a briefing today.

“We consider the extension of that agreement as extremely important as with that [agreement] we strengthen our military-political alliance [with Russia],” said he.

Armenia signed a protocol with Russia which prolonged the deployement of the Russian military base in Armenia’s second-largest town of Gyumri for 24 years up to 2044.

According to Mr Ohanyan, this document enables Armenia to further develop its military capabilities together with the Russian Federation in order to resist the current threats.

Further he went on saying that the Russian base is currently being reformed and renovated.

“The structural and functional problems in that base will be made optimal, and we will together do what is stipulated in the agreement,” said Mr Ohanyan, adding that the document does not envisage the deployment of any new military base in Armenia.


Tert.am

[arakeretzig]

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Great (yester)day, 7 baboons killed:

great news. you made my day. I hope they keep doing this and keep dying

[crusader1492]

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When you google news about this recent clash only Azeri sources are quoted, saying that 3 Armenians and two Azeris were killed.
Of course I don't believe the Azeri source but can someone explain to me why Azeri sources always get the jump on Amenian ones when it comes to seach engines.

Here's an example: http://www.rferl.org/content/Azerbai..._/2145292.html

[Joseph]

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When you google news about this recent clash only Azeri sources are quoted, saying that 3 Armenians and two Azeris were killed.
Of course I don't believe the Azeri source but can someone explain to me why Azeri sources always get the jump on Amenian ones when it comes to seach engines.

Here's an example: http://www.rferl.org/content/Azerbai..._/2145292.html

Armenian authorities asleep at the wheel again. The Azeris always jump out ahead of the game and publicize first. That being said, the Azeris generally lie and the Armenian own up to their loses when it comes to these situations.

[Haykakan]

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Aliyev will have to get off his ass
April 2, 1997, at a closed meeting, the State Duma of Russia, with a sensational speech, which was later dubbed in Azerbaijan, "Armen's Gate", was made chairman of the Defense Committee, General Lev Rokhlin. Rokhlin asserted that Russia gave Armenia weapons and ammunition valued at one billion dollars (this amount is subsequently "grown" to a half billion). In Baku, on the subject was raised by an incredible noise, oversized political figures - from the President of Azerbaijan to the opposition leaders - demanded to break off relations with Russia, to enroll her in a number of enemies of the Azerbaijan Republic.
The scandal was a grand, and this noise, few paid attention to the fact that this is the same Rokhlin, that commanded in 1988-90 years of the 75th Motorized Rifle Division in Nakhichevan. The division is known to all its weapons handed People's Front of Azerbaijan, which has been behind the scenes leader Heydar Aliyev. And hardly anyone doubts that this transfer took place Gratis.
About Rokhlin more can be said that he commanded the 8 th Guards Corps, smashed and destroyed in Grozny, Dudayev's troops J. New Year's days of 1994-95. In the night of 2 July 3 Rokhlin was murdered at his dacha own wife Tamara Rokhlina, according to investigators in a state of severe intoxication. True, the Latvian newspaper "Chas" claimed that Rokhlin was preparing a military coup, as a result and was killed on the orders of Boris Yeltsin. But that's another story.
January 8, 2009 Azeri site "Media forum" has published the information under the sensational headline: "discovered a list handed over to Russia in Armenia new weapons worth 800 million dollars." The material attached photographs of two crumpled papers, which were intended to "confirm" information. It was "handed over a list of weapons, compiled with numerous spelling errors, impossible for the Russian-speaking person. For example, self-propelled gun "Acacia" in "list" was listed as "Acasia. It is worthwhile to note that in the Azeri language is no sound "u", and many guests Azerbaijan openly made fun of constantly flickering sign of Sex, that merely means the shop. By the way, the tree itself acacia and translated into Azerbaijani language - «akasiya» (to change the alphabet - akasija).
Despite pointing to fake flashy errors, as well as a refutation of the relevant structures of Russia, Azerbaijan rose another hysteria against Russia. All media in this republic - from yellow to gazetenok respectable publications - considered it their patriotic duty to offend Russia and its leaders. "On the complex of inferiority in Putin's Russia, or what is behind the transfer of arms to Armenia for 800 million dollars?", "Kremlin inexplicable rudeness", "Russia - the pathological traitor" - this is not the most offensive titles Azerbaijani newspapers and online resources for those days.
In a verbal "attack" on Russia crossed the deputies of Milli Majlis, Azerbaijan's Foreign Ministry, members of the president's office ... even remembered the expression of the Constitutional Act on State Independence of the Republic of Azerbaijan: "For centuries Russia has humiliated the national dignity and the Azerbaijanis," mercilessly exploited the wealth of Azerbaijan "etc.
These stories reminded of the recent visit to Armenia, the Russian President Dmitry Medvedev and signed in Yerevan, the Armenian-Russian protocol on the presence of Russian military bases in Armenia. Article 3 of the Protocol provides that "The Russian side has assisted in providing the Republic of Armenia and compatible with modern weapons, military (special) equipment.
In Baku, of course, do not doubt that part of the modern and compatible with staying in the Russian army weapons, as well as special military equipment are already in Armenia. Do not doubt and that the supply of arms will continue, because the Armenian-Russian relations have evolved from simply a strategic military-strategic alliance. I repeat, in Baku's all very well know. But ... silent. And you can be confident in the expected imminent visit of Medvedev to Azerbaijan nobody, at least, from the officials, this issue will raise. If only some small-minded journalist does not lean out with an inappropriate question.
Military alliance with Armenia, Russia, signed on top of the CSTO, it is not only a major diplomatic success of the two countries, and not only the contract that protects the interests of the Russian Federation and the security of the Republic of Armenia. Armenian-Russian Protocol, signed on August 19 this year, the presidents of Russia and Armenia - is a balm to the soul of Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliyev, since it enables him to continue to calmly lead the republic, to suppress the opposition, to save money in various offshore accounts, buying whole blocks in the resorts of the world and prepare a change in the person of Heydar Aliyev junior.
In fact, their belligerent statements and repeated promises "by force" to capture Artsakh, Aliev, until recently, consistently drove himself into a political and psychological impasse. And stop, stop the flow of empty and meaningless threats, the president of Azerbaijan could not, because, as the proverb says, "Take the donkey - a shame to get off his ass - two disgrace". And now with Aliyev appeared a great excuse: war with Armenia, we can not, because behind her is a strong Russia. The situation is attractive for Aliyev, the fact that the Caucasian Turks, panic fearing renewed fighting, happy to accept these explanations. Yes, and a longtime fear of Russian is not obsolete in the Caucasian Turks. So that Aliyev is also entitled to the gratitude of his countrymen.
Signed in Yerevan, the Protocol on the Russian military base in Armenia is not so much a guarantee of security of the Armenian states, as a guarantee of preservation of Azerbaijan in its current limits. And then for the sake of his estate and welfare of their clan Aliyev still have to get off their ass.

Levon Melik-SHAHNAZARIAN

http://translate.googleusercontent.c...2VWDxXVKZ8hYhQ

I think this is a good article. I like how it explains that the present situation is actualy what Alieve wants to continue along with Armenia and Russia.

[Joseph]

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I think this is a good article. I like how it explains that the present situation is actualy what Alieve wants to continue along with Armenia and Russia.

A good article. The last point is well-taken. The enhancement of strategic relations between Armenia and Russia gives Aliyev the excuse not to try and mount a full-scale war and thus he can prolong his rule. As seen recently, he will launch small attacks that will result only in the wasted lives of his soldiers but that is a price he will gladly pay in order to stay on the throne.

[Davo88]

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2 Azerbaijani troops killed in border clash with Armenia over disputed Nagorno-Karabakh

By The Associated Press (CP) – 5 hours ago

YEREVAN, Armenia — Officials say at least two Azerbaijani soldiers have been killed in a clash with Armenian forces near the border of the disputed territory of Nagorno-Karabakh.

Nagorno-Karabakh lies within Azerbaijan, but since the end of a six-year separatist war in 1994 it has been under the control of Armenian troops and ethnic Armenian forces.

A spokesman for the Nagorno-Karabakh defence ministry, Senor Asratyan, said the Tuesday fighting started when Azerbaijani soldiers launched an attack within the territory. He said four Azerbaijani troops were killed and one Armenian was wounded.

But Azerbaijani news agencies cited the country's defence ministry as saying the Armenians launched the attack in a village outside the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh. The ministry said three Armenians and two Azerbaijanis were killed.

Copyright © 2010 The Canadian Press. All rights reserved.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/canadianpress/article/ALeqM5iBWCs4DQQNSDm9hF4Rl-vBtzFbog

Several killed in Nagorno-Karabakh clash
Soldiers on Azeri ceasefire line with Nagorno-Karabakh

Clashes between the forces of Azerbaijan and Armenian-backed Nagorno-Karabakh have left several soldiers dead, with both sides blaming the other for the violence.

Azerbaijan's defence ministry said three Armenians and two Azeris were killed following an Armenian attack.

Armenian reports said one Armenian was wounded repelling Azeri forces, and up to seven Azeris were wounded or killed.

Recent attempts to solve the "frozen conflict" have failed to gather steam.

There have been a number of skirmishes in recent months across the ceasefire line dating to the 1990s.

Fighting broke out in the late 1980s as the Soviet Union headed towards collapse, with ethnic Armenians taking control of Nagorno-Karabakh and a land corridor linking it to Armenia.

Negotiations between the two countries, under a fresh peace drive backed by the US and Russia, took place last year but have since stalled.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-11150688

The truth is that Aliyev is unhappy because the Armenian-Azeri negotiations are not going in the direction he would have wanted, and Russia is tipping the balance in favor of Armenia. The recent Azerbaijani incursions into NKR reflect Aliyev's state of mind.

And I find it ridiculous that Azerbaijani falsifications and Armenian reports are gaining the same weight in international media... Who is making all the war threats? Certainly not Armenia.

[arakeretzig]

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"" Russian Helicopters company will supply four Kamov Ka-32 helicopters to Azerbaijan in the near future, the Azerbaijani APA news agency said on Monday.
It is not known which of the country's state departments or institutions ordered the helicopters, the report said.
In May, the Azerbaijan Emergencies Ministry bought two Ka-32 helicopters from Russia.
The Ka-32 is a 12-ton coaxial twin-rotor helicopter that can carry a payload of up to four tons.
It is commonly used in utility cargo work and fire-fighting, has an endurance of about four hours and cruises at 205 kilometers per hour.
AZERBAIJAN, August 30 (RIA Novosti) ""

http://en.rian.ru/mlitary_news/20100830/160396738.html

[UrMistake]

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Baku spreads misinformation, RA defense office states

September 01, 2010 | 18:52
Committed to its style, grossly violating the ceasefire on the contact line, the Azerbaijani side resorted to another act of sabotage, says a statement issued by the press service of the RA Ministry of Defense.

“The press service of the NKR Ministry of Defense reported that on August 31, at 6:30 a.m. local time, in the north-eastern section of the contact line between the NKR and Azerbaijani troops, near the village of Verin Chailu, the Azeri side attempted an act of sabotage,” says the statement.

The Armenian sentries took necessary measures to prevent the Azeri detachment’s advance. Suffering losses, killed and injured, the enemy task force was thrown back. Rudik T. Manaseryan, a private of the NKR Defense Army, was injured in the skirmish. The details of the incident are being specified.

As usual, the Azeri side accused the NKR forces of the provocation and spread misinformation that the Armenian side suffered losses.

This all proves once more that the Azeri authorities are ignoring the efforts toward a peaceful settlement of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict, organizing regular provocations and destabilizing the situation on the border thereby endangering the peace process.

The Azeri armed forces’ style not only heightens tension on the Armenian-Azerbaijani contact line, but also runs counter to the Azeri leaders’ statements on their willingness for a peaceful settlement of the conflict, says the statement.

According to the Azeri side’s claims, the NKR Defense Army attempted an offensive. The Baku sources claim that three Armenian soldiers were allegedly killed in a skirmish. On the other hand, the Azerbaijani Ministry of Defense officially admitted the death of two Azeri soldiers.