Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

[HyeSocialist]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

It was useful to Kemal who created realities on the ground which the western powers (Great Britain, France, USA, Italy) then approved!

Maybe Turks and Azerbaijanis besides being savage barbarians, have things we can learn from even today (see Azerbaijani videos above!)

The only thing we can learn from them is how to have a strong centralized government. But even if that was something to learn, we could take that same idea from Japanese, Singapore, and South Korea and be more developed than those xxxxtard Turks are.

[HyeSocialist]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

It is an option if the country wants to head into that direction. Few things to keep in mind 1- As long they integrate, minorities do not become a majority. 2- Selective people that will contribute and not become a burden 3- The present size of Armenia with Artsakh could not sustain more than 6 million people.

It all comes to abundance of natural resources and citizen with work ethics and brain.

I agree, and this is what Canadians and Aussies do now. Say you come to Armenia, get a college degree, and a firm wants to hire you in Armenia. xxxx, give that individual citizenship. Want to sign a 4-year military contract? Give him/her citizenship. By then they will understand the culture and workings in Armenia.

The most important thing for us is to make sure we are inclusive as a people and don't let the muzzies isolate themselves in ghettos like the Euros do. The more we can intergrate people, the more reason they will have to support Armenia instead of abusing it.

[Eddo211]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

Kemal was able to unite Turks and Kurds in the early years in order to organize military campaigns against Greeks in the west, and Armenians in the south (Kilikya) and east (Arm. republic), helping Azerbaijan in the process by demanding creation of Nakhichevan entity. In 1920 Armenian leaders were not even able to unite Armenians!

Remember, Turks killed all leaders before Ataturk........but you are right about learning from the enemy.

[lampron]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

Treaties are useless. The only "treaty" that works is how powerful you are.

It was useful to Kemal who created realities on the ground which the western powers (Great Britain, France, USA, Italy) then approved!

Maybe Turks and Azerbaijanis besides being savage barbarians, have things we can learn from even today (see Azerbaijani videos above!)

[Azad]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

Kemal manoevered at the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923 to make sure the Treaty would not even mention them

Treaties are useless. The only "treaty" that works is how powerful you are.

[lampron]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

You are only measuring their last accomplishment. They lost a hole empire, got cornered in a defined territory. Unfortunately Armenians and Greeks got the end of the stick and their frustration on the weakest link of the empire.
When you look at the big picture they lost almost everything used their last kurdish bullet with promises. They are now paying the price of imaginary promises.

They lost a whole empire but in the Caucasus, Kemal was able to add territory that wasn't even ottoman in 1914!

Armenians Greeks and Assyrians were now ethnically cleansed, which meant these nations would not be able to claim nationhood in Anatolia any more. Kemal manoevered at the Treaty of Lausanne in 1923 to make sure the Treaty would not even mention them

[Azad]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

Kemal was able to unite Turks and Kurds in the early years in order to organize military campaigns against Greeks in the west, and Armenians in the south (Kilikya) and east (Arm. republic), helping Azerbaijan in the process by demanding creation of Nakhichevan entity. In 1920 Armenian leaders were not even able to unite Armenians!

You are only measuring their last accomplishment. They lost a hole empire, got cornered in a defined territory. Unfortunately Armenians and Greeks got the end of the stick and their frustration on the weakest link of the empire.
When you look at the big picture they lost almost everything used their last kurdish bullet with promises. They are now paying the price of imaginary promises.

[lampron]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

The difference we are a Monoculturalism society. We can accomplish that by opening the doors to everyone and have a zoo controlled by a strong leader. The direction England and Germany are taking.

Kemal was able to unite Turks and Kurds in the early years in order to organize military campaigns against Greeks in the west, and Armenians in the south (Kilikya) and east (Arm. republic), helping Azerbaijan in the process by demanding creation of Nakhichevan entity. In 1920 Armenian leaders were not even able to unite Armenians!

[Azad]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

Absolutely. We can do what the Aussies and Canadians do and offer citizenship to any one that serves in the Armenian Army or graduates with a degree from an Armenian university.

It is an option if the country wants to head into that direction. Few things to keep in mind 1- As long they integrate, minorities do not become a majority. 2- Selective people that will contribute and not become a burden 3- The present size of Armenia with Artsakh could not sustain more than 6 million people.

It all comes to abundance of natural resources and citizen with work ethics and brain.

[HyeSocialist]

Re: Azerbaijan - Internal Political Affairs

The difference we are a Monoculturalism society. We can accomplish that by opening the doors to everyone and have a zoo controlled by a strong leader. The direction England and Germany are taking.

Absolutely. We can do what the Aussies and Canadians do and offer citizenship to any one that serves in the Armenian Army or graduates with a degree from an Armenian university.