Free, Independent, and United Armenia

[Eddo211]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

The road plan isn't talking about Nk, yet. There are other things like the historians, the kars treaty and what will they ad later on no one knows. That's why dashnaks left the coalition, because they don't think what serjik is doing is the right thing. There was a great interview with a Dashnak memeber who told every thing in Hosanak on Shant tv(love the channel). And they have also said many times that opening the border will go paralel with Nk agreement. And many statements from Azeris that everything will be work out soon and Lachin corrider is going to stay in Armenian hands(90% of what's coming from them is not true but with all the other things going on).

At first I thought Russia was guiding this but now I'm sure they aren't and all of it is coming from Washington.
I agree the border should be opened but without pre-conditions and like it's going to be with this road map that I've has allready been signed. Not good at all.

Ok now I am really getting nervous. WTF is going on over there?!! Do we as of yet have any details on this or what exactly our leaders are committing us to?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

So serj is actual going to abandon the occupied territories outside of NK?

The road plan isn't talking about Nk, yet. There are other things like the historians, the kars treaty and what will they ad later on no one knows. That's why dashnaks left the coalition, because they don't think what serjik is doing is the right thing. There was a great interview with a Dashnak memeber who told every thing in Hosanak on Shant tv(love the channel). And they have also said many times that opening the border will go paralel with Nk agreement. And many statements from Azeris that everything will be work out soon and Lachin corrider is going to stay in Armenian hands(90% of what's coming from them is not true but with all the other things going on).

At first I thought Russia was guiding this but now I'm sure they aren't and all of it is coming from Washington.
I agree the border should be opened but without pre-conditions and like it's going to be with this road map that I've has allready been signed. Not good at all.

[jgk3]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

90% of the fighters were people from Hayastan there were very few fedayis from the Diaspora, and most of them were Dashnaks. I blame the dashnaks from the Diaspora who didn't go and fight but you can't say they weren't there. And I agree with what they were are doing now stepping out of the coalition. Read the points of the road plan and think what we are losing. No pre-condition my ass.

So serj is actual going to abandon the occupied territories outside of NK?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

Of course there were some Dashnaks fighting the war, and those who did were good because they lived up to their word, they lived up to their songs, but how many Dasknaks actually went? For God's sakes, if my family were Dashnak I would have yelled and yelled at them to have gone.

Fed, do you know how many Dashnaks from Montreal who actually went to fight in Artsakh?

90% of the fighters were people from Hayastan there were very few fedayis from the Diaspora, and most of them were Dashnaks. I blame the dashnaks from the Diaspora who didn't go and fight but you can't say they weren't there. And I agree with what they were are doing now stepping out of the coalition. Read the points of the road plan and think what we are losing. No pre-condition my ass.

[jgk3]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

jgk3 you want to know were the ARF was during the war thei were there fighting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJuc8...eature=related
and what i gods name is serj doing now is going to sign the Kars treaty and we'll lose all of our lands for ever.

Of course there were some Dashnaks fighting the war, and those who did were good because they lived up to their word, they lived up to their songs, but how many Dasknaks actually went? For God's sakes, if my family were Dashnak I would have yelled and yelled at them to have gone.

Fed, do you know how many Dashnaks from Montreal who actually went to fight in Artsakh?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

jgk3 you want to know were the ARF was during the war thei were there fighting http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DJuc8...eature=related
and what i gods name is serj doing now is going to sign the Kars treaty and we'll lose all of our lands for ever.

[jgk3]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

good to know

[jgk3]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

Choosing hate as a means to block out the seductions of the enemy to me is being afraid to use your higher, non-emotionally disturbable faculties to do an even better job at destroying them. You will never find immortality, happiness, justice or wisdom by clinging onto hate.

And Yakamoz, you truly are a brat! For the time being, it humors me.

[hrai]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

Arach Hayastan but let's not look at ALL Turks as our enemies because there are many that have seen the light of truth. There are many that support us. There are many that fight with us for a better future. There are many that are sorry and hang their heads.

This is your big failing Saco, you are easily seduced by the meaningless chatter of a turc, or perhaps two. You say they're friends of yours and other Armenians........really???
Many that fight with us? Support us? Not really, they DIVIDE us, they dilute our force. They try to infect us with their virus to weaken us. They are like serpents.

We have to remember that the New Generation knows almost nothing about us or their past. We have to be a little more understanding, I'm afraid, and bring down the pathetic Turkish gov. THEY are our #1 enemies because they pose a threat and if that wasn't enough, pull the greatest veil of lies upon the eyes of the Turkish people ... physically and mentally not allowing them to see the truth.

turkish people revel in their government. The few who post here now and in the past, who aren't deceivers, are dissidents who will hitch their wagon to any cause which is anti-government.

Let us be prepared for everything ... except to hate. The truth is on our side. Let us unite and stand together with God above us. If we do so, NOTHING will stop us.

What's wrong with hate? It's a clean emotion, it keeps you clear-headed, it's keeps you cold-minded. Contained, it is powerful, it's anti-turc serum.

[jgk3]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

When we had the war with Azeris, why did most Dashnaks stay put in the diaspora? What happened to all the war songs? The patriotism?

You support Armenia greatly, but you also insult the measures the actual population and leadership of Armenia have taken to bring security and vitality to their own lands. It is easy to take such a hardliner stance about dealing with Turkey when the majority of your party isn't even determined to fight them on a battlefield should a war erupt, or even repatriate as soon as we have independent lands to begin with! Njdeh turns in his grave for you as well.