Free, Independent, and United Armenia

[Sako]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

Then why don't people get out there and peacefully protest against this road map? What could be more important than the future of our country? Daily bread? Yes, it's very important, but is it more important?

Short Answer? Yes, it is. You seem to know much about politics but don't know how dirty our gov. is at times. The main reason that most Armenians don't protest yet though isn't only because of food ... it's because they never stand together. Anyone can start a protest but you know why no one will? Because no one will stand by their side(s). The Armenian people never unite or do so only on very special occasions, which isn't enough. We have to ALWAYS stand together. If we did, we wouldn't be in the state we are now. For the past 800 years, Armenians have been standing alone and that's where their problems begin and that's why they went and still go through so much pain, poverty, and suffering.

A quick question, have you lived in Armenia, Dashnak?

No defence mode, just a wish to talk to an RPA member who can give me his/her prespective on the actions of their leaders.

I can give you books, not just perspectives, but they won't change anything. I've realized that the gov. here in Armenia will go through with it's plans in the end, good or bad, because the people here in Yerevan aren't uniting. If they do, this might change, but at the moment, it's a hopeless situation.

When it comes to our Nation I'm a fanatic, and so should be everyone because the dangers are far too great. I hope you realize that after failing to destroy us physically turkchis are now seeking to destroy us by other, more peaceful means.

Don't worry, we all know that very well. But still, no one should be a fanatic and I'm not. I am doing a lot for my country and it's people right now as we speak but not out of fanaticism but true love. There is a fine line between true love for your country/people and fanaticism/nationalism.

To win it you have to be in it.

In this country you can't win alone. Once you come here, I think you'll have a better idea of what's going on. The politics drive US ... not the other way around. Why? Because no one is uniting. Check out the sevri and Kars thread. I've talked about this in many of my posts in great detail.

There is simply no other choice.

That's where your wrong...

If you get a chance, whenever that might be, please do tell me what's going on. Your eyewitness account would be appreciated.

It would only be an honor ! Check out the Kars and Sevres thread started by Anoush and start reading my posts. If you have any special questions, let me know in this thread.

[Dashnak]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

No one is indifferent...we simply have more important things to do and don't think about politics all day.

Then why don't people get out there and peacefully protest against this road map? What could be more important than the future of our country? Daily bread? Yes, it's very important, but is it more important?

Your so into politics that when I simply said Arach Hayastan, you immediately went into defence mode.

No defence mode, just a wish to talk to an RPA member who can give me his/her prespective on the actions of their leaders.

I'm also into politics, but I'm not a fanatic.

When it comes to our Nation I'm a fanatic, and so should be everyone because the dangers are far too great. I hope you realize that after failing to destroy us physically turkchis are now seeking to destroy us by other, more peaceful means.

Politics are very dirty and when you pay too much attention to them, you go deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole. You have to be able to talk about politics and know what's going on but not fall into it's grip. I hope you understand my point.

To win it you have to be in it. There is simply no other choice.

Right now, politics have spoiled our people and everything has turned into a game. Come here and you'll see what's going on. That's why I don't pay A LOT of attention to all this crap. I only pay attention to the serious issues flying around.

If you get a chance, whenever that might be, please do tell me what's going on. Your eyewitness account would be appreciated.

[Sako]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

I believe every Armenian in the world should be into politics, into Armenian politics, because indifference is one of the reasons that landed us into this trap called "road map".

No one is indifferent ... we simply have more important things to do and don't think about politics all day. Your so into politics that when I simply said Arach Hayastan, you immediately went into defence mode. That's not good. I'm also into politics, but I'm not a fanatic. Politics are very dirty and when you pay too much attention to them, you go deeper and deeper down the rabbit hole. You have to be able to talk about politics and know what's going on but not fall into it's grip. I hope you understand my point.

Right now, politics have spoiled our people and everything has turned into a game. Come here and you'll see what's going on. That's why I don't pay A LOT of attention to all this crap. I only pay attention to the serious issues flying around.

[Dashnak]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

I'm not into politics, my friend.

I believe every Armenian in the world should be into politics, into Armenian politics, because indifference is one of the reasons that landed us into this trap called "road map".

[Dashnak]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

I want the best for our people,..

After reading your posts I don't doubt that you do. Our Nation must be united to overcome the devastating results of 70 years of bolshevik-communist propaganda instilled in the minds of a lot of Armenians in RA, most tragically in the minds of the leadership.

[Sako]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

I believe “Arach Hayastan” was Serjs and his Republican Party’s election slogan. This is a party that claims that its doctrines are based on the teachings of the Garegin Njdeh, yet their dominated parliament and government, spearheaded by their chairman and country’s president are actively delivering Armenia right into the hands of the enemy.

I'm not into politics, my friend. I don't give a xxxx who's slogan ARACH HAYASTAN was/is. I use that phrase whenever I like and the difference between me and the Armenian Republican party is that when I say ARACH HAYASTAN ... I MEAN IT!

So ARACH HAYASTAN and PAYKAR, PAYKAR MINCHEV VERJ...

[Gavur]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

Like Heaven!

[jgk3]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

thank you guys. And yes, Kanadahye, those are inspiring pictures... Those forests Ara Ler mountains are so different from anything I've ever seen, I would love to hike there!

[Eddo211]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

I like this post, thanks jgk3.

I second that, well said jgk3.

Hey KanadaHye, those are amazing pictures man.

and Haykakan: unbelievable to be able to walk through the land and just find what our ancient brothers made with their hands………….you found an Arrowhead?!! Dude, I am fascinated with Archery, to find one of our ancient Arrowheads would be out of this world for me. That is too cool.

[hrai]

Re: Free, Independent, and United Armenia

for both of you, I understand.

But Dashnak, I can question why most Dashnaks in the diaspora, in Montreal, mainly care about genocide recognition (especially the youth movement), which is fine, but have no intention of ever fighting on a battlefield, contrary to what their war songs would teach. I am puzzled by this phenomenon. I praise what the Dashnaks have done, I am only cynical of this important detail, as in an ever modernizing diaspora, I wish to check this influence of forgetting one's warrior spirit with scrutiny. The Dashnaks are the most patriotic, they must continue to set the best example for all diasporans.

I believe that dedication to being a warrior-like people is the key to triumph. I know I will act when I am needed. I already feel the need now to become closer to the Armenian people and am working towards this in my own way.

As for me not being eligible to criticize? I want the best for our people, when I see shortcomings, I will give my suggestions, I will give my criticism, and I will lead by example when the time calls for it.

I like this post, thanks jgk3.