Free, Independent, and United Armenia

[KanadaHye]

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For those who can't visit, here are some pics of Ara Ler, absolutely incredible.

http://armenia.galstyan.com/displayi...?album=2&pos=0

[jgk3]

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"I already feel the need now to become closer to the Armenian people and am working towards this in my own way."
This is something we all should be doing. Our culture is so rich that the closer you get to it the more you want it and the more you appreciate its richness. Armenia itself is a wonderfull place to explore full of history and culture. While i was at a friends summer retreat near ARA LER i found stone tools and arrowheads just laying there from prehistoric times. People have lived in this part of the worls since befor the dawn of civilization and you will be amazed at what you can discover there on your own journey.

thank you for sharing with us your encouraging experience, I can definitely relate with the sentiment you're talking about even though I've never yet been to Armenia.

[Haykakan]

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"I already feel the need now to become closer to the Armenian people and am working towards this in my own way."
This is something we all should be doing. Our culture is so rich that the closer you get to it the more you want it and the more you appreciate its richness. Armenia itself is a wonderfull place to explore full of history and culture. While i was at a friends summer retreat near ARA LER i found stone tools and arrowheads just laying there from prehistoric times. People have lived in this part of the worls since befor the dawn of civilization and you will be amazed at what you can discover there on your own journey.

[jgk3]

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for both of you, I understand.

But Dashnak, I can question why most Dashnaks in the diaspora, in Montreal, mainly care about genocide recognition (especially the youth movement), which is fine, but have no intention of ever fighting on a battlefield, contrary to what their war songs would teach. I am puzzled by this phenomenon. I praise what the Dashnaks have done, I am only cynical of this important detail, as in an ever modernizing diaspora, I wish to check this influence of forgetting one's warrior spirit with scrutiny. The Dashnaks are the most patriotic, they must continue to set the best example for all diasporans.

I believe that dedication to being a warrior-like people is the key to triumph. I know I will act when I am needed. I already feel the need now to become closer to the Armenian people and am working towards this in my own way.

As for me not being eligible to criticize? I want the best for our people, when I see shortcomings, I will give my suggestions, I will give my criticism, and I will lead by example when the time calls for it.

[hrai]

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Choosing hate as a means to block out the seductions of the enemy to me is being afraid to use your higher, non-emotionally disturbable faculties to do an even better job at destroying them. You will never find immortality, happiness, justice or wisdom by clinging onto hate.

jgk3, I don't choose hate. you ask in another thread about Dashnak involvement in Artsakh, I have 2 who'll never come back,it's sometimes hard to remember their faces.
I won't be seduced by the enemy, others will and some have been already.
Hate keeps focus for me, it's not an emotional hate, it's deeper.
I doubt immortality is in my fate, happiness I have now. Justice. What's justice? Wisdom. He who professes wisdom is probably the least wise.
Finally I don't cling to hate, like a prop, it's there.........
jgk, we've all got our own demons and deall with them as best we can.

[Dashnak]

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When we had the war with Azeris, why did most Dashnaks stay put in the diaspora? What happened to all the war songs? The patriotism?

Artsakh’s liberation was an all-Armenian struggle for justice, and Armenians from all walks of life and all political persuasions were present on the battlefields, including ARFD, thousands of them. Unfortunately I was way too young to be there, but what I’d like to know is what’s with your cynical questions? I mean, pardon me, but who the hell are you to question the patriotism of arguably the most patriotic Armenian organization in the world? Did you somehow managed to miss the modern history of the Armenian people? Because for the past 120 years ARFD has been an integral part of it, good or bad it’s been always there and despite the chorus of wicked ill-wishers it will always be there. Now, what you, as an individual and as a Diaspora Armenian, have done for the good of our Nation and Homeland? Let’s start with a small thing (you) before we discuss things that are much greater than you and me put together.

…but you also insult the measures the actual population and leadership of Armenia have taken to bring security and vitality to their own lands.

The actual population had no say and the leadership has never asked the opinion of the population. National referendum is the only just way to decide on issues of national importance but there was none so, don’t speak of the actual population.

Njdeh turns in his grave for you as well.

Garegin Njdeh was God’s gift to the Armenian Nation. Like a prophet with a divine message he formed the ultimate national ideology, a nationalist religion, which was way above any politics and parties. That’s why he left ARFD, which he dearly loved all his life long, even after leaving it. So, rest assured, Njdeh would not turn in his grave because of us.

Choosing hate…

There is no blind hate, there is a true understanding of the present based on the past and with a view to the future.

[jgk3]

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Don't have information on that but from what i've heard here and there, not many. The help mostly came in the form of money.

thanks.

[Federate]

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Fed, do you know how many Dashnaks from Montreal who actually went to fight in Artsakh?

Don't have information on that but from what i've heard here and there, not many. The help mostly came in the form of money.

[KarotheGreat]

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Little good news
Armenian authorities take a firm stance on Armenian-Turkish border opening
27.04.2009 19:13 GMT+04:00 Print version Send to mail

/PanARMENIAN.Net/ “The RA President stood firm in his position: Armenia cannot open its border with Turkey until autumn. This is a kind of pressure against Turkey,” political scientist Alexander Iksansaryan told a news conference in Yerevan. Mr. Iskandaryan believes that the route map will be published, but that won’t ease public dissatisfaction. Despite its content, the route map will arise criticism against the authorities,” Mr. Iskandaryan noted. In the meantime, the political scientist finds that it is necessary to take certain measures to relieve the increasing wave of dissatisfaction in Armenia and Diaspora.

“As regards the date of signing the agreement, that should have taken place between April 16 and 24. Before April 16, the parties were not ready for it, and after April 24, the Foreign Ministries might not have signed any agreement in view of President Obama’s speech,” Mr. Iskandaryan said.

The Armenian-Turkish joint statement on the normalization of bilateral ties was adopted on April 23 by the Armenian and Turkish Foreign Ministries and the Swiss Federal Department of Foreign Affairs.

[KarotheGreat]

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Ok now I am really getting nervous. WTF is going on over there?!! Do we as of yet have any details on this or what exactly our leaders are committing us to?

There is not much beeing said by the officials yet, but I hope things aren't as bad as they seem. Because things that I've been hearing the last ouple of days are realy xxxxed up and I'm mean really