Serge the traitor

[Fedayeen]

Re: serje the traitor

Looks like we the people have lost. Its going to get signed on the 10th.

Our homeland has been sold. Next time you visit Armenia, it will be called Erministan in the Republic of Turkey.

[Haykakan]

Re: serje the traitor

Looks like we the people have lost. Its going to get signed on the 10th.

Our homeland has been sold. Next time you visit Armenia, it will be called Erministan in the Republic of Turkey.

How about you go visit it yourself and see what it is like insyead.

[KanadaHye]

Re: serje the traitor

Looks like we the people have lost. Its going to get signed on the 10th.

Our homeland has been sold. Next time you visit Armenia, it will be called Erministan in the Republic of Turkey.

We almost held off for a century. The Genocide is now complete.

[Haykakan]

Re: serje the traitor

We almost held off for a century. The Genocide is now complete.

Nah if that was so then neither this forum nor Armenia would exist.

[Eddo211]

Re: serje the traitor

We almost held off for a century. The Genocide is now complete.

Very funny KanadaHye.............I know you don't believe that.

[Army]

Re: serje the traitor

Poor Georgia.. now she will be alone against the monster called Russia

[Haykakan]

Re: serje the traitor

Poor Georgia.. now she will be alone against the monster called Russia

Not for long, soon enoughf she will be in Russias fold again. Just a matter of time.

[KanadaHye]

Re: serje the traitor

ARMENIANS OF SWEDEN DEMAND RECONSIDERATION OF ARMENIA-TURKEY PROTOCOLS

In the light of the published protocols between the Republic of Armenia and the Republic of Turkey, regarding the normalization of diplomatic relations, the Union of Armenian Associations of Sweden, is highly critical of the steps taken by the Government of Armenia, especially due to its total lack of communication with the Armenian Diaspora in this regard, the Union said in an open letter to Letter to the President of Armenia, Speaker of the Armenian Parliament and Chairman of the Constitutional Court of Armenia.

“Let it be clear that we do recognize the authority of the Armenian Government and the rights invested with it as the official representative of the Armenian nation, inside and outside Armenia. However, the Government of Armenia seems to have totally neglected the role and the situation of the Diaspora, the direct result of and the heirs to the 1915 Genocide in Turkey. We looked forward to the meeting in Paris on October 2, 2009, hoping it would be a dialogue.

But, the meeting was rather a monologue, repeating the same assertions regarding the protocol and its contents which we have been hearing for the last weeks. It was said that “Armenia is ready to normalize its ties with Turkey without preconditions”. The Union of Armenian Associations welcomes and supports the normalization of relations between Armenia and Turkey, but firmly refuses to accept that the protocol does not include preconditions. It is redundant to repeat the issues in detail, since they are clearly known by the general public, and a short recapitulation will suffice. While the creation of a commission to re-evaluate “historical differences and problems” and recognizing common borders only can refer to the Armenian Genocide and its legacy, the text stating “non intervention in internal affairs of other states,” does clearly refer to the issue of Artsakh. While refuting to acknowledge the semantics of these formulations, the Government of Armenia has failed in total to present a viable explanation for why such sentences are included at all. These concealed preconditions are not the basis of a sincere rapprochement which this protocol is said to represent.

By entirely ignoring the views of the majority of the Armenian nation, i.e. the Diaspora, the Government of Armenia is de facto losing its eligibility as representative for the entire Armenian nation, an obvious unwise step. The Union of Armenian Associations in Sweden, strongly recommends the Government and the Parliament of Armenia to reconsider the contents of the drafted protocol, which if ratified, will not only seriously damage Armenian interests, crippling it morally and politically on the international area, it will most definitely strike a serious blow to the relations between the current Armenian Administration and its most strategic foreign partner and resource, the Diaspora. Nonetheless, let it be reminded once more that the Union of Armenian Associations in Sweden is in favor of the normalization of relations between Turkey and Armenia, but only on the basis of a sincere dialogue, without any preconditions, obvious or concealed, attempting to downplay the reality of the Armenian Genocide, its legacy, or subsiding the Armenian support of Artsakh’s right for self-determination,” the letter says.

http://www.armtown.com/news/en/pan/20091007/37451/

[Hye]

Re: serje the traitor

hi to all I read with big sorrow all of this anger and hatred towards each other I write in great pain this post and in fact it was such a horible and horific week the past week where we saw the TRUE armenian face all we talk about unity loving each other WE APEAR such before foreiners (or we try to hide) but we will reamain the same. chatents said: "OV HYE JOGHOVURT KO MIAK PRGUTYUN@ HOHAVAKAGAN UJIN MECH E" and I say with great pain: "Hay joghovurt yete tun ches grnar sdeghdzel havakagan uj iravunk chunis abrelu" Enough is enough we have been divided for too many years and centuries look at Arabic countries they are 400 mill and they are SLAVES because wthey can't unite what about us we are just 10 mill so WHAT ARE WE? Are we really that great imaage that we all have in our minds?
My queson is to the Armenian Diaspora I am from Leanon Im raised taught and lived for the hay tad but this is my quesion to you.
Is there ANYONE in the diaspora I change EVERYONE Armenian or non Armenian in the world as well that can give me a detailed plan that is gives steps with timeline a logical plan that in the in wil tell me if we follow this plan we will make the world or Turkey to anyone to recognize the Armenian Genocide for Turkey to compensate for Tuekey to give back lands to us IS THERE ANY SUCH PLAN HAVE ANYONE EVER THOUGHT ABOUT TO CREAT SUCH PLAN????????????? The Zionist HAD such plan and still do WHAT DO WE HAVE? or even more trival do we know what will we deman if Turkey today recognized the genocie? do we know what we will do if Obama recognized the genocide? please if anyone know such plans or at least a certain pan Armenian dicussion that has put such a plan (the contant of such a plan must be secret) PLEASE inform me of it.
What the hell is the Diaspora Armenians prsenting to Armenia to have all those expectations from Armenia what are we giving just think about it we have all Armenian fund that last year with huge surpise collected 30 mill by charity add other organisations that also contrubuted to that the howmuch would there be? 100 mill 300 mill IS THIS ENOUGH to build protect EXPAND 2 republics plus a davestated javakhk plus demend this and taht from Turkey???????????? Its not EVEN CLOSE Im not saying it isnothing Im not saying Diaspora is dpoing nothing Im just say IT ISN:T ENOUGH this landlock country has VERY VERY limited resouces even witht the Diasporas help today we still are incapable and not to mention WE DON:T HAVE A PLAN. Do we have the capabality to contribute more OF COURSE WE DO I have opned a thread (Armenian Diaspora / Armenian politics) about this issue but a few responded I will not talk about what can we do now.
we have 42000 sqkm in our hands people this is VAST area to our 3 mill (max) population that is living in Armenia there are villages in Armenia that have no road to reach there Karabakh is around 1200 sq KM there is max 150000 population do you know how small that is Lebanon is SMALLER than Karabakhj its 10452 sqKM population is 4 MILL MORE THAN ARMENIA ITSELF how are we suppposed to populate this how are we suppost to deffend this why not try and make Karabakh population 500000 or mabe a mill and tell Azeris hell with it we aren't giving you even 1 meter of land there are 1 mill peopl living here why are we dreaming and "strugling" for something we don't have and ignoring the thing that we have in our hands. what is better to fight for Van or to liberate javakhk increase Armenian population bt 300000 and why not expand to black sea to the north whcih one is better to dream about?
we are also facing a horrible demographic problem in order to defend Armenia we AT LEAST need a well equiped Army but what will the equipment do IF THERE IS NO ONE TO CARRY IT in 1917 there were VAST amount of amunition weapons logistics in Garine (Erzrum) we could have fought for at 1 year and even press on the Ottomans towads van and Trabizon from Garine bearing in mind the difficult situation of the Ottoman Army they had on the from just 35000 badly equiped naked army bu Garine fell why? BECAUSE THERE WAS NO ONE WILLING (at that time) to carry a weapon and fight and now there will be NO ONE to do that in the future
bottom line there is a saying that goes "meg tserkov yergu tsmerug ches grnar shalgel" let pick our fights and put all of our weight on that battle field and win it.
Again we can confront on more fronts but not now we can't now there are ways to do if we get together think together and get stronger and use all our potential but now we aren't its shamefull really
gaghachem polorit mi vargapegek irar mi adek irar mer poloris chakhchakhich medzamanutyun@ srdants gsirenk hayasdan@ aytbisi ants me tavadjan che ayl meg@ vor urish gardzik uni. shnorhagal em

[Կարմիր Բ]

Re: serje the traitor

I hate to say this, but I'm afraid the only way out is to take out the midget...

No point anymore. The system is the problem, Serj serves the interests of few powerful rich people in Armenia who care not about our history but only for their pocket, he is nothing but a pawn.