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  • #11
    Re: serje the traitor

    As I said in another thread, look at what happened last time we made peace with the Turks...

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    • #12
      Re: serje the traitor

      I hate this whole turkish/armenia talk crap thing,
      but I have to say we Armenians have been under
      foreign ruler for centuries, but we've never lost our
      culture nor our sense of being.

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      • #13
        Re: serje the traitor

        Originally posted by Icy View Post
        I hate this whole turkish/armenia talk crap thing,
        but I have to say we Armenians have been under
        foreign ruler for centuries, but we've never lost our
        culture nor our sense of being.
        Some of us haven't....
        "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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        • #14
          Re: serje the traitor

          Originally posted by Icy View Post
          I have to say we Armenians have been under
          foreign ruler for centuries, but we've never lost our
          culture nor our sense of being.
          The last Tasmanian Aborigine died in 1876.
          I am sure she did not lose her culture or her sense of being (an Aborigine) till her death.

          Armenians are not comparable to Aborigines in culture or out look etc.

          They had a longer existence than Armenians.
          However a time came in history where they were unable to cope with the external and real threat ( the white man).
          This example can be applied to many nations in history who are now referred to as simply people such as the Assyrians etc.

          We have a history of approximately 3000 years.
          Why is it that Armenians worldwide are only 7-8 million despite our such long existence. With more than half outside the country they refer as homeland with an area one tenth its claimed size

          Surely as a nation we must have been doing something wrong.
          There could be many reasons, enemies we could not cope to defend against, bad governance, bad luck?

          So not losing culture although very important and central to our identity, is not the only guarantor in the next 100, 200 years and beyond.
          Last edited by londontsi; 10-02-2009, 06:46 AM.
          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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          • #15
            Re: serje the traitor

            Originally posted by Hellektor View Post
            I hate to say this, but I'm afraid the only way out is to take out the midget....

            A question to the moderators and owners of this forum - are they happy to permit posts advocating the assasination of the president of Armenia? And are they happy to allow this forum to be used a platform for those proposing such crimes? And if the answers to both those questions are "yes", will they be happy for me to cite their position in the future.
            Plenipotentiary meow!

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            • #16
              Re: serje the traitor

              Originally posted by bell-the-cat View Post
              A question to the moderators and owners of this forum - are they happy to permit posts advocating the assasination of the president of Armenia? And are they happy to allow this forum to be used a platform for those proposing such crimes? And if the answers to both those questions are "yes", will they be happy for me to cite their position in the future.
              Shhhh... the CIA, KGB, and British SIS are roaming these forums. Keep it down.
              "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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              • #17
                Re: serje the traitor

                [QUOTE=bell-the-cat;281149]A question to the moderators and owners of this forum - are they happy to permit posts advocating the assasination of the president of Armenia? And are they happy to allow this forum to be used a platform for those proposing such crimes? And if the answers to both those questions are "yes", will they be happy for me to cite their position in the future.[/QUOTE

                This is probably the only time i find myself in agreement with bell.
                Hayastan or Bust.

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                • #18
                  Re: serje the traitor

                  Originally posted by londontsi View Post
                  The last Tasmanian Aborigine died in 1876.
                  I am sure she did not lose her culture or her sense of being (an Aborigine) till her death.

                  Armenians are not comparable to Aborigines in culture or out look etc.

                  They had a longer existence than Armenians.
                  However a time came in history where they were unable to cope with the external and real threat ( the white man).
                  This example can be applied to many nations in history who are now referred to as simply people such as the Assyrians etc.

                  We have a history of approximately 3000 years.
                  Why is it that Armenians worldwide are only 7-8 million despite our such long existence. With more than half outside the country they refer as homeland with an area one tenth its claimed size

                  Surely as a nation we must have been doing something wrong.
                  There could be many reasons, enemies we could not cope to defend against, bad governance, bad luck?

                  So not losing culture although very important and central to our identity, is not the only guarantor in the next 100, 200 years and beyond.

                  The reason our country is not big anymore has nothing to do with bad governance but more with location location location. Armenia sits on land everyone wants to control and those who try wear it down over a loong period of time. Had our homeland been in a less important part of the world we would have faired differently. When you are in a continuous state of war you are bound to eventually lose...
                  Hayastan or Bust.

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                  • #19
                    Re: serje the traitor

                    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                    The reason our country is not big anymore has nothing to do with bad governance but more with location location location. Armenia sits on land everyone wants to control and those who try wear it down over a loong period of time. Had our homeland been in a less important part of the world we would have faired differently. When you are in a continuous state of war you are bound to eventually lose...
                    That's a tough pill to swallow. I think it's because we were never united.
                    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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                    • #20
                      Re: serje the traitor

                      Originally posted by KanadaHye View Post
                      That's a tough pill to swallow. I think it's because we were never united.
                      I am sure we have been united at times throughout our long history but unity is hampered by different forces pulling on you just like they are today. What the big powers wana do and what many armenians want is not the same thing thus it is hard to stay united when you have so many conflicts of intersts due to different powers playing to different parts of our society. I think that unity is important but look at how different the perspectives are of the forum members here. I think we all need to unite behind Armenias government and help it improve our country while some here want the president dead. If everyone sees the facts you would expect everyone to reach the same conclusions but people don't think alike so...
                      It is geogrophy that has hurt our vison of a greater Armenia from existing not lack of unity. Also it must be stated that unity is only good if your are united for the right things based on logic, being united about diving off a cliff is hardly a good thing.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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