Serge the traitor

[Armanen]

Re: Serge the traitor

Haykakan
Im saying that we didn't change our position from Kocharian to Sargsian we got what we set to get in the first place but you are right it didn't happen during Kocharian because of different reasons and Georgian war is part of it since as you remeber Sargsian sent the football match invetation before the war and Turkey was totally lost about the invetation Georgia war was a way out to them in a way to say yes
you talk about Armenia being transite root specially oil root but where is the Russian stance in all this in your opinon I know Russia isn't a big oil exporter it is gas but still how much will Russia be comfortable seeing Armenia in this role seeing a country fully under its control to slip a little away
Im sorry if im making you to repeat yourself Im new in the forum I have read some threads before but still thanks for your time

In terms of net exports of oil Russia is number 2 behind saudi arabia and there are some indicators that they may be number 1 soon.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9f/Chart-of-Oil-Trading-Nation.gif

[Haykakan]

Re: Serge the traitor

Haykakan
Im saying that we didn't change our position from Kocharian to Sargsian we got what we set to get in the first place but you are right it didn't happen during Kocharian because of different reasons and Georgian war is part of it since as you remeber Sargsian sent the football match invetation before the war and Turkey was totally lost about the invetation Georgia war was a way out to them in a way to say yes
you talk about Armenia being transite root specially oil root but where is the Russian stance in all this in your opinon I know Russia isn't a big oil exporter it is gas but still how much will Russia be comfortable seeing Armenia in this role seeing a country fully under its control to slip a little away
Im sorry if im making you to repeat yourself Im new in the forum I have read some threads before but still thanks for your time

Your right i have gone over everything already in much detail including why russia wants this deal to happen. Russia owns thus controls most of the infastructure in Hayastan. By haveing the oil, among other things, pass through Armenia it takes full control of it reaching turckey and the west. Russia will make a lot of money because the infastructure being used is owned mostly by it but more importantly it has its hands around Turckey's and Azeri's throats, meaning it can control both countries better now since it controls the oil flow. Armenia is a partowner of the infastructure with russia thus it will make money too and all these roads, pipelines.. will create many much needed jobs in Armenia to build and maintain them. All sides benefit from this deal, especialy Russia.

[Federate]

Re: Serge the traitor

Whatever happened to Serge promising to only go to Turkey if the border is opened? The border is still closed and Serge was greeted with flowers and Turkish music.
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Presidential loge decorated with Swarovski crystals in Bursa


Special loge is set for the Armenian and Turkish Presidents at Ataturk stadium. According to NEWS.am reporter, the loge is decorated with Swarovski crystals. One couch and two arm-chairs cost U.S. $10 000.

As reported earlier, at the moment Turkish President Abdullah Gul meets with RA President Serzh Sargsyan in Almira hotel.

Earlier Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoglu met Armenian President at the airport. Armenian delegation was met with flowers, as well as Turkish music and dances.

The match will start at 9:00 p.m. local time (11:00 p.m. Yerevan time). Right after the match RA President leaves for Yerevan.

http://news.am/en/news/6542.html

[Federate]

Re: Serge the traitor

Droopy never looked so hot . Looks like everything's going his way these days . Bolded notable to Armenians.
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Serzh Sargsyan hotter than Angela Merkel



Ukrainian Prime-Minister Yulia Tymoshenko is ranked the hottest world leader according to the Hottest Heads of State website. The list includes 172 leaders (presidents, prime-ministers, monarchs and even Pope). RA President took the 108th place leaving behind German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Norwegian Premier Jens Stoltenberg ranks 2nd and King of Bhutan Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck — the 3rd. The list ranks Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko-12, U.S. President Barack Obama-15, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin-18, French President Nicolas Sarkozy-28, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili-35, RA Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan-88, President of Cuba-169 and Pope Benedict XVI Sovereign of Vatican City-171.

http://news.am/en/news/6530.html

[ninetoyadome]

Re: Serge the traitor

Droopy never looked so hot . Looks like everything's going his way these days . Bolded notable to Armenians.
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Serzh Sargsyan hotter than Angela Merkel



Ukrainian Prime-Minister Yulia Tymoshenko is ranked the hottest world leader according to the Hottest Heads of State website. The list includes 172 leaders (presidents, prime-ministers, monarchs and even Pope). RA President took the 108th place leaving behind German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Norwegian Premier Jens Stoltenberg ranks 2nd and King of Bhutan Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck — the 3rd. The list ranks Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko-12, U.S. President Barack Obama-15, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin-18, French President Nicolas Sarkozy-28, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili-35, RA Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan-88, President of Cuba-169 and Pope Benedict XVI Sovereign of Vatican City-171.

http://news.am/en/news/6530.html

thats funny, aliyev is ranked 157

http://hottestheadsofstate.wordpress.com/list/

[Hye]

Re: Serge the traitor

Thanks haykakan for the explanation and sorry for making you repeat yourslef
you have good and ;ogical point of view or analysis here but again here even if i agree with you one can't help to think why did Russia after it bought the Iran-Armenia Gas infrastructure insisted to make the pipes smaller in order to not to let Iran to deliver gas to Europe from that pipelines now that pipeline is kinda limited couldn't have Russia let it to be bigger make it to have potential to deliver Gas to Euroope although it minght not do it in the present but in that case would have eliminated an chance Iran delivering Gas to Europe through Turkey and have the oportunity also to control the Iranian gas delivary.
Federate your quote: "Whatever happened to Serge promising to only go to Turkey if the border is opened? The border is still closed and Serge was greeted with flowers and Turkish music."
just FYI Sargsyan actually didnt say that he said: "yes Turkyo nakhkahin hraver@ gntunim yerp Hay-Turkagan sahman@ patsvadz @lla gam @lank patsman nakhashemin" well although we still have to wait andnothing is final menk patsman nakhashemin enk

[Haykakan]

Re: Serge the traitor

Thanks haykakan for the explanation and sorry for making you repeat yourslef
you have good and ;ogical point of view or analysis here but again here even if i agree with you one can't help to think why did Russia after it bought the Iran-Armenia Gas infrastructure insisted to make the pipes smaller in order to not to let Iran to deliver gas to Europe from that pipelines now that pipeline is kinda limited couldn't have Russia let it to be bigger make it to have potential to deliver Gas to Euroope although it minght not do it in the present but in that case would have eliminated an chance Iran delivering Gas to Europe through Turkey and have the oportunity also to control the Iranian gas delivary.
Federate your quote: "Whatever happened to Serge promising to only go to Turkey if the border is opened? The border is still closed and Serge was greeted with flowers and Turkish music."
just FYI Sargsyan actually didnt say that he said: "yes Turkyo nakhkahin hraver@ gntunim yerp Hay-Turkagan sahman@ patsvadz @lla gam @lank patsman nakhashemin" well although we still have to wait andnothing is final menk patsman nakhashemin enk

Iran is one of the competing forces in the region along with russia and turckey and russia doesnt want to give its competator more then it needs to. The Iranian pipeline is to guerentee gas supply to Armenia in case of resumption of war in Georgia.

[Federate]

Re: Serge the traitor

Federate your quote: "Whatever happened to Serge promising to only go to Turkey if the border is opened? The border is still closed and Serge was greeted with flowers and Turkish music."
just FYI Sargsyan actually didnt say that he said: "yes Turkyo nakhkahin hraver@ gntunim yerp Hay-Turkagan sahman@ patsvadz @lla gam @lank patsman nakhashemin" well although we still have to wait andnothing is final menk patsman nakhashemin enk

I remember reading an article debating why the border opening would matter since he would be traveling by plane and Bursa being too far by land. The border opening still has a long way to go. Turkey is still pretty likely not to pass the protocols and Erdogan (even though it was for propaganda) said one day after the signing that border will not open until Artsakh resolution. Not only does Armenia give in to other peoples' preconditions but fails to keep its own ones.
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Dashnaks To Defy Ban On Next Yerevan Rally


The Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnaktsutyun) said on Wednesday that it will defy a government ban and again rally supporters in Yerevan this week in protest against the controversial Turkish-Armenian agreements.
In accordance with Armenia’s law on public gatherings, Dashnaktsutyun notified the municipal authorities last week about its intention to hold the rally in Charles Aznavour square in downtown Yerevan on Friday. The municipality said on Tuesday that it can not be authorized because another even has already been scheduled to take place in the same place and on the same day.

Vahan Hovannisian, a Dashnaktsutyun leader, rejected the explanation and said the authorities failed to offer an alternative venue for the protest, as is required by the law. “They only verbally informed us that some other, children’s event is to take place there at the same time,” he said. “And when we said that we can hold it elsewhere, they said, ‘We will organize an event there too.’”

Hovannisian claimed that the authorities are thus keen to prevent the Dashnaktsutyun rally at any cost. “We cannot reckon with such a desire,” he told a news conference.

Thousands of people, most of them Dashnaktsutyun supporters, marched through the city center last Friday to condemn the two Turkish-Armenian protocols that were signed the next day. Dashnaktsutyun and its influential chapter in Armenian communities around the world have rejected the deal as a sellout. They are particularly opposed to its provisions that commit Armenia to recognizing its existing border with Turkey and agreeing to a joint study of the 1915 mass killings of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire.



Hovannisian also criticized Sarkisian for accepting Turkish President Abdullah Gul’s invitation to visit Turkey for Wednesday’s soccer game between the two countries’ national teams. He said the Turkish side has failed to meet Sarkisian’s earlier conditions for the trip.

The Armenian president said throughout this summer that he will accept travel to Turkey if Ankara lifts its 16-year economic blockade of Armenia or is at least “on the verge” of doing that.

The Dashnaktsutyun leader insisted that the reopening of the Turkish-Armenian border, envisaged by one of the signed protocols, is still not on the cards, citing statements to that effect made by Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan and other Turkish leaders.

“If [the Armenian authorities] are ready to make other concessions to make border opening imminent and inevitable, then this is the subject of a separate conversation,” said Hovannisian. “But I think the conditions set by the president were not satisfied.”

http://www.armenialiberty.org/content/article/1851799.html

[Yedtarts]

Re: Serge the traitor

[londontsi]

Re: Serge the traitor

Droopy never looked so hot . Looks like everything's going his way these days . Bolded notable to Armenians.
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Serzh Sargsyan hotter than Angela Merkel



Ukrainian Prime-Minister Yulia Tymoshenko is ranked the hottest world leader according to the Hottest Heads of State website. The list includes 172 leaders (presidents, prime-ministers, monarchs and even Pope). RA President took the 108th place leaving behind German Chancellor Angela Merkel.

Norwegian Premier Jens Stoltenberg ranks 2nd and King of Bhutan Jigme Khesar Namgyel Wangchuck — the 3rd. The list ranks Belarus President Alexander Lukashenko-12, U.S. President Barack Obama-15, Russian Prime Minister Vladimir Putin-18, French President Nicolas Sarkozy-28, Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili-35, RA Prime Minister Tigran Sargsyan-88, President of Cuba-169 and Pope Benedict XVI Sovereign of Vatican City-171.

http://news.am/en/news/6530.html

I agree about Yulia Tymoshenko .

Does anybody know which nudist camp she goes to.