Armenian Army

[felizitation]

Originally posted by Baron Dants Theeeere you go. Glad this is settled. So no to Nike sweatshops, and yes to an IT company opening a branch in Armenia.

I like the term "economic xxxx" by the way.

We agreed. I'm trying to do my best for english language, I have many more things to say in french.

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by felizitation We agreed. I'm trying to do my best for english language, I have many more things to say in french.

Tu peux parler comme tu veux. Tigran comprend le français aussi.

[TJ]

Oui je comprend le francais. Et personne lit autrement ce forum.

[SexyAries]

All of you make extremely good points, except shahumyan (i doubt that you are an armenian). To give in a little of my imput, there are youths leaving Armenia to come to America for the reason that they don't want to go to the Army. My father served there, both my grandfathers and all my Uncles! They have repeatedly told my horrifying stories. Now if they want to leave why would others want to go? Although i believe in stnading up for your country, and as much as a citizen you may be to another country....you have Armenian blood!

Tigran, my mom thinks you are an extremely smart person. (i was reading when she walked in and read with me and loved what you had to say) Baron, i agree with many of the points you made, especially about education! I think in order to do this it is going to take a lot of money, patience, and a lot of changing things around! So it will probably take years, if it ever happens.

[Shahumyan]

i dont think anyone could say yes to no to nike, yes to IT, i thinkits fair to say capitalism doesnt work like that.

Airies,
wtf, you think in such a nostalgic manner, people first idedntify themselves with their material conditions, then nationality.

I am hapy, and i am quite happy i am, however im not particularly bothered, my first priorities are a) mankind b) working class c) armenian culture

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by Shahumyan i dont think anyone could say yes to no to nike, yes to IT, i thinkits fair to say capitalism doesnt work like that.

Setting up and enforcing laws and regulations about minimum wage, working conditions, etc, would prevent the establishment of sweatshops. What's so unachievable there?


As for nostalgia....anyone with a communist party of Armenia insigna for an avatar should be in no position to speak.

[Shahumyan]

Danzig, the avatar is nostalgic, however im not using it for anything important in the political life of people, rather just a sweet reminder for me

as for restrictions, basically, as Armenia lost its independance (to capitalist institutions such as IMF, WTO) it cant do this, and even if it could it would suffer cuts in aid, in development, and in research. Hayeri dzerkerker gab en dvel irants meshgi hedev.
What you think enger? im interestedd to se your reply

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by Shahumyan Danzig, the avatar is nostalgic, however im not using it for anything important in the political life of people, rather just a sweet reminder for me

as for restrictions, basically, as Armenia lost its independance (to capitalist institutions such as IMF, WTO) it cant do this, and even if it could it would suffer cuts in aid, in development, and in research. Hayeri dzerkerker gab en dvel irants meshgi hedev.
What you think enger? im interestedd to se your reply

I think the IMF and the World Bank should be toppled and the rich nations of the world should pay THEIR debt to the poorer ones, instead of considering about making it easier for the poorer countries to pay their alleged debts.

Realistically however...

I believe our government CAN make a strong case and gain support from institutions such as the UN (for whatever it's worth) against the implantation of companies like Nike. But, this is a lot of effort wasted I believe, as Nike (or other such companies) hasn't ever sought to do anything in Armenia, and it would surprise me immensely if it ever did.

The key to Armenia's economic development is, I'll say it once more, diasporan business ventures. That is ALL.

[Shahumyan]

i dont want to be an argumentative bastard, but to be successful in capitalism, i dont think u can limit yourself to only one type [diasporan] investment. All the banks are in the hands of the russians except HSBC for example. Diasporan business isnt that big to support armenia, and even when they come, they donteven pay their xxxxin taxes!

[xBaron Dants]

Originally posted by Shahumyan i dont want to be an argumentative bastard, but to be successful in capitalism, i dont think u can limit yourself to only one type [diasporan] investment. All the banks are in the hands of the russians except HSBC for example. Diasporan business isnt that big to support armenia, and even when they come, they donteven pay their xxxxin taxes!

Diasporan business is a richness that hasn't been developped yet. As for not paying taxes, I will have to question your sources, as I have heard and seen otherwise.

I'm not saying it's the ONLY way, but it's the most efficient way to get economic growth, without being dependant on foreigners.