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[jahannam]

Originally posted by TruthSeeker

Let's face it, the United States has invented the best governing structure. Absolutely the best. The number one reason why the US is the superpower it is today is its ingenious govt. It is strange how ignorant many ex-socialist/communist countries are, and haven't realized this fact. Have Armenia adopt a US-like gotv. system, release all govt. control over mass media, untie culture from govt. (starting with religion), and you will see the country prosper. Of course, power-hungry "activists" and "leaders" pretending to be interested in the country's good will avoid this model, as it wouldn't afford them as much power to achieve their own private goals.

yeah, that way we'll have a higher devorce rate, our kids will start smoking pot at 10 and go shoot their classmates, and teenagers will buzz out babies every hour.
yeah the American System rules!!!!!!! yeah give me five!

[Arvestaked]

When speaking about America as a political and economic entity, there are three things to keep in mind: it is the wealthiest, it is the strongest, and it has contributed the most technological advancements. America has the strongest, most advanced army with the most nuclear weapons. The amount of money that America has and churns out is insane. And so many technological advancements have been given to the rest of the world, by America: the airplane, the mass produced car, the telephone, the computer, the internet, the music systems that you use, the television, etc...almost all of the technology, including military technology, that every other country takes for granted was contributed to the world by America. Arguing that it is unsuccessful as a government is foolish. If you want to argue about governments that could be better that have not existed yet, that is fine. If you you want to argue all sorts of minute statistics to compare all the miniscule aspects of different governments, no doubt you will find better aspects in other places. But what I said is irrefutable and shows a successful government, relative to what is currently in existence.

[Shahumyan]

so you wish to rate a country just by the select statistics u choose? Where is qualioty of life down as in America? maybe on a par to nigeria

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by Shahumyan so you wish to rate a country just by the select statistics u choose? Where is qualioty of life down as in America? maybe on a par to nigeria

I am not rating anything. I am merely saying that, based on what I said, you cannot claim that America is not successful as a government and an economy. It is the attitude of it being such a terrible place that I am responding to. As a matter of fact, one of the biggest contributors to any quality-of-life issues that one would debate is the excessive immigration, and that is fueled by the success of the United States as a government and an economy. For someone who does not live in the United States and has never been in the work force here, you are being very presumptuous.

[Shahumyan]

Arves,
have you ever been outside the US?
Ive been to the US, and see how people have to work like dogs just to make ends meet, its bullxxxx.

As for the government, i dont see how thats successful, the indicators u presented b4 could be used for the Romans, the Greeks, the Persians and so on. Just because your around now doesnt make you successful

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by Shahumyan Arves,
have you ever been outside the US?
Ive been to the US, and see how people have to work like dogs just to make ends meet, its bullxxxx.

As for the government, i dont see how thats successful, the indicators u presented b4 could be used for the Romans, the Greeks, the Persians and so on. Just because your around now doesnt make you successful

Yes I have been outside of the US many times, cumstain. People work like xxxxs to get by in Socialistic governments as well. The thing is that any characteristic any population can be represented by a bell curve. If you suggest a system that cannot, then it is not possible. It is that xxxxing simple really.

And, I did not say that a government just has to exist to be successful. Apparently you like ignoring other people's words. I mentioned specific characteristics that put it on a pedestal above many others. Even if they could be applied to those old empires, which is another discussion, it is all relative. For their time they were. History is trial and error.

So far you have succeeded in being stupid. Please come back and play again.

[Shahumyan]

thank you for calling me a cumstain, this truly shoes inchkan medz ooghegh unes.

"People work like xxxxs to get by in Socialistic governments as well"
-yes, apart from these not being socialist and infact deformed workers states, these workers had job secutiry to the max whereas in America people fear taking holidays in case they get sacked, they had best health which most in America cant afford and education where even in cuba, literacy rate is 99% and its 96% in USA i believe, if not less

"History is trial and error"
-thats absurd, in fact, that doesnt even make any sense. explain.

[Arvestaked]

Originally posted by Shahumyan thank you for calling me a cumstain, this truly shoes inchkan medz ooghegh unes.

That is not an attempt at flexing my brain. Congratulations on one of the most common responses to any insult.

"People work like xxxxs to get by in Socialistic governments as well"
-yes, apart from these not being socialist and infact deformed workers states, these workers had job secutiry to the max whereas in America people fear taking holidays in case they get sacked, they had best health which most in America cant afford and education where even in cuba, literacy rate is 99% and its 96% in USA i believe, if not less

I have never met anybody who fears taking a holiday that was not agreed to in an employment contract. And they pay for that health care; the taxes are higher. And it is much more difficult to start your own business.

"History is trial and error"
-thats absurd, in fact, that doesnt even make any sense. explain.

There is nothing absurd about it and it makes complete sense. I was expecting you to make a connection that you do not have the mental capability to make. You were implying that, relative to current political experience, those previous empires could be considered inferior. That was your tone. But the success is relative to its time and you cannot consider your views to be superior. If the characteristics I gave could in fact be applied to those previous governments, then, yes, they were relatively successful and again the U.S. remains so. That is what I was saying. But you are also picking apart a comment that was to be taken in passing.

[Shahumyan]

instead of playing adverserial politics, try engaging in explaining your stance, its not a game, theres nothing to win by using your extra-ordinary wit. Its boring

As for your knowledge of a neighbour country Cuba, you have none. Education and health are free, and as for being a capitalist trying to start up your own business there, well as its supposed to be a socialist country, no xxxx sherlock, that its hard to start a business, and rightfully so, in fact it should be banned to start private enterprise fullstop.

[Anonymouse]

Originally posted by Shahumyan in fact it should be banned to start private enterprise fullstop.

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