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  • #21
    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

    New Energy Projects with Iran set to Launch
    July 14, 2010



    YEREVAN (RFE/RL)—Armenia announced on Wednesday the impending launch of three more joint energy projects with neighboring Iran that are estimated to cost more than $700 million.

    Energy Minister Armen Movsisian said the two nations will start building this year a third high-voltage transmission line connecting their power grids, a hydro-electric station on the Arax river marking their border, and a pipeline that will pump Iranian oil products to Armenia.

    The Armenian and Iranian governments have spent years negotiating on these projects and preparing for their implementation, which would give a massive boost to their economic ties.

    With a projected capacity of 140 megawatts and an estimated cost of $350 million, the hydro-electric station is to be constructed by Iranian firms. According to Movsisian, the Armenian side will pay half of the bill with supplies of electricity to the Islamic Republic.

    Movsisian told journalists that the two governments will also equally co-finance the $180 million construction of the pipeline which he said will get underway this fall. It will enable Armenian fuel companies to import petrol and diesel fuel at prices well below the international level, he said.

    Movsisian added that the two sides will also start “within approximately one month” work on the third power transmission line. He said earlier that it will take 18 months.

    The facility will allow for large-scale exports of Armenian electricity to Iran to be mainly generated by Iranian natural gas. Armenia began importing it, in modest amounts, through a newly constructed gas pipeline in May last year. The volume of these deliveries is due to increase drastically to at least 2 billion cubic meters per annum in the next few years.

    Armenia is pressing ahead with these projects despite tougher sanctions which the U.N. Security Council imposed on the Islamic regime in Tehran last month over its controversial nuclear program. The sanctions do not directly target the energy sector, the main area of Armenian-Iranian economic cooperation.

    Official Yerevan said on June 10 that it is closely monitoring the intensifying standoff between Iran and the West and hopes for its “peaceful” resolution. Visiting Germany two weeks later, President Serzh Sarkisian urged Western powers to address Tehran’s “sense of being in danger” and reckon with its geopolitical interests in the region. He also held up these and other Armenian-Iranian economic projects as a model for regional cooperation.

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    • #22
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      Thursday, September 16 According to Armenian media sources, this autumn an Iran-Armenia oil pipeline will begin its construction. The cost of this pipeline will be approximately USD 180 million. The costs of which are distributed evenly between Iran and Armenia. However, in practice, all expenses will be paid by Iran with half of the total amount being registered as a loan to Armenia. This debt will be settled from the profits received through exploiting the pipeline. Armenia believes it will receive petrol from Iran and diesel through this pipeline. The price of these products will be cheap and affordable for Armenia’s consumption as they will be cheaper than European product prices. So, this project could potentially be rather beneficial for Armenia.
      General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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      • #23
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        'Iran supports Azerbaijan over Karabakh'
        Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:12PM


        Iran's Vice-President for Parliamentary Affairs Mohammad-Reza Mir-Tajeddini says Tehran has always supported Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute.


        "Karabakh is part of Azerbaijan and Iran will not accept any act of aggression against this region or its occupation," Mir-Tajeddini said on Sunday.

        Mir-Tajeddini said officials from Turkey, Georgia and Russia should hold a meeting with Azerbaijani and Armenian authorities to resolve the Karabakh dispute through negotiation and based on justice.

        Referring to US interferences in Karabakh dispute, Mir-Tajeddini said US meddling has never yielded any result but "damaging relations between other countries."

        Iran has extended an offer to mediate between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the dispute, and Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki earlier suggested a trilateral meeting with his Armenian and Azerbaijani counterparts to resolve the dispute.

        Both Azerbaijan and Armenia claim the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, which is largely populated by Armenians but located in Azerbaijan.

        Ethnic Armenian forces took control of the Nagorno-Karabakh region during a war with Azerbaijan in the early 1990s.

        The conflict left an estimated 30,000 people dead and one million displaced before the two sides agreed to a ceasefire in 1994. However, a peace accord has never been signed.


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        Iran will continue to support Azerbaijan in Karabakh issue?
        September 19, 2010 - 17:49 AMT 12:49 GMT
        PanARMENIAN.Net - Iran initially supported, supports today and will continue to support Azerbaijan in Karabakh issue, Iranian Vice President for Parliamentary Affairs Seyyed Mohammad-Reza Mir-Tajeddini said Sunday in Tehran.

        "We have always supported Azerbaijan and denounced the occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh by Armenia," said Mir-Tajeddini on Iran-Azerbaijan conference Azerbaijan: Past Experiences and the Upcoming Prospects.

        Mir-Tajeddini said the Caucasus region, in particular, Azerbaijan is very important both for Iran and the world. According to him, the region has important geopolitical location, is rich in energy resources with access to the sea, there are equally living representatives of all religions, Trend reported.

        “Contribution to regional peace and security as well as resolution of conflicts in accordance with the international law is Iran’s position in principle. We stand for resolution of disputes taking into account the interests of conflicting sides. Iran’s initiatives regarding the Karabakh conflict settlement can only supplement the other endeavors to that end. We believe that all conflicts should be resolved through efforts of the countries of the region,” Iranian Foreign Minister, Dr. Manouchehr Mottaki said in an interview with PanARMENIAN.Net

        “Iran’s official position is as follows: Iran calls on all parties to conflict to show restraint and resolve the problem peacefully. On our part, we are ready to contribute to the process,” the Foreign Minister emphasized.




        what do you guys make of this? is it the same as when the vice president said he acknowledged the Armenian Genocide but when Turkey confronted him he backed down?

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        • #24
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          Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
          what do you guys make of this? is it the same as when the vice president said he acknowledged the Armenian Genocide but when Turkey confronted him he backed down?
          It's not the same Vice President. The one that acknowledged the genocide is Hamid Baghaei, the Vice President and Head of Cultural Heritage and Tourism Organization. Mohammad-Reza Taj is the Vice President for Legal and Parliamentary Affairs. But if you meant if the case is similar then I agree, it is.

          The proper way for Armenia to tackle this is to immediately demand an explanation from Iran as to the VP's comments (similar to what Turkey did) which will undoubtedly lead to other senior Iranian officials denying that is Iran's position and revert back to the "we support peaceful negotiations" viewpoint. In reality, Iran is slightly pro-Armenian on the issue and that's because of its own Azeri minorities which are used by Pan-Turks to generate problems of separatism in the country.
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          • #25
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            Originally posted by Federate View Post
            In reality, Iran is slightly pro-Armenian on the issue and that's because of its own Azeri minorities which are used by Pan-Turks to generate problems of separatism in the country.
            I wouldn't be so sure on this. The Iranian people will be aligned with their Muslim brethren, the government will pretend that they are not taking sides (though statements like these just show Iran's real siding).

            The ayatollah is part of this Azeri minority, let me remind you of that.

            The azeri people are also aligned with Iranians, even though Azeri government is also close to western governments. The other day Azeri people held a demonstration where they burned Armenian, US, Israeli, and EU flags, just comes to show.
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            • #26
              Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

              Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
              'Iran supports Azerbaijan over Karabakh'
              Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:12PM
              http://www.presstv.ir/detail/143131.html
              First of all Presstv is not a reliable source even according to most Iranians. It is a pro Islamic propaganda machine and if you google 'Iran supports Azerbaijan over Karabakh' all you get is presstv and Azeri sources.

              Even if there is some truth to it the Iran's Vice-President for Parliamentary Affairs Mohammad-Reza Mir-Tajeddini is a nobody and is paying lip service to Azerbaijan.
              As much as Iranians (and the Islamic republic of Iran) support the Armenians they cannot outright deny Azeries so they play the game. Even though Khomenei has Azary roots he is not a seperationalist and is aware of the problem of how the young Azary population of Iran is slowly getting influenced by Turkish via Azerbaijani Gray Wolf movement in Northern Iran (Tabriz) with demonstration and soccer hoolagan mentalities who even have the nerve to call the Persian Gulf the "Gulf of Arabia". That even pisses me off as an Armenian born in Iran.

              “Iran’s official position is as follows: Iran calls on all parties to conflict to show restraint and resolve the problem peacefully. On our part, we are ready to contribute to the process,” the Foreign Minister emphasized.

              [url]http://www.panarmenian.net/eng/world/news/53781
              As you can see the real message to Armenia from official Iranian position is that nothing has changed.
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              • #27
                Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                Originally posted by Federate View Post
                It's not the same Vice President. The one that acknowledged the genocide is Hamid Baghaei, the Vice President and Head of Cultural Heritage and Tourism Organization. Mohammad-Reza Taj is the Vice President for Legal and Parliamentary Affairs. But if you meant if the case is similar then I agree, it is.

                The proper way for Armenia to tackle this is to immediately demand an explanation from Iran as to the VP's comments (similar to what Turkey did) which will undoubtedly lead to other senior Iranian officials denying that is Iran's position and revert back to the "we support peaceful negotiations" viewpoint. In reality, Iran is slightly pro-Armenian on the issue and that's because of its own Azeri minorities which are used by Pan-Turks to generate problems of separatism in the country.

                thats what i was thinking, Armenia needs to get an explanation. One thing i dont understand, the guy said they support azerbaijan and then he said they want to mediate in the conflict. do they really think after such a statement Armenia would allow it?

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                • #28
                  Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                  Originally posted by Eddo211 View Post
                  As much as Iranians (and the Islamic republic of Iran) support the Armenians they cannot outright deny Azeries so they play the game. Even though Khomenei has Azary roots he is not a seperationalist and is aware of the problem of how the young Azary population of Iran is slowly getting influenced by Turkish via Azerbaijani Gray Wolf movement in Northern Iran (Tabriz) with demonstration and soccer hoolagan mentalities who even have the nerve to call the Persian Gulf the "Gulf of Arabia". That even pisses me off as an Armenian born in Iran.
                  The Azerbaijani Azeris boasts of annexing 'South Azerbaijan' and rabid Pan-Turkic chauvinism. Could conceivable have all sorts of future consequences for both Turkey and Iran. As not only do Iranian Azeris, comprise a third of the population of Iran. Azerbaijani oil revenues are very likely to weaken Turkeys hold upon it's troublesome Azeris vassal.

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                  • #29
                    Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                    Originally posted by ninetoyadome View Post
                    'Iran supports Azerbaijan over Karabakh'
                    Sun Sep 19, 2010 5:12PM


                    Iran's Vice-President for Parliamentary Affairs Mohammad-Reza Mir-Tajeddini says Tehran has always supported Azerbaijan in the Nagorno-Karabakh dispute.


                    "Karabakh is part of Azerbaijan and Iran will not accept any act of aggression against this region or its occupation," Mir-Tajeddini said on Sunday.

                    Mir-Tajeddini said officials from Turkey, Georgia and Russia should hold a meeting with Azerbaijani and Armenian authorities to resolve the Karabakh dispute through negotiation and based on justice.

                    Referring to US interferences in Karabakh dispute, Mir-Tajeddini said US meddling has never yielded any result but "damaging relations between other countries."

                    Iran has extended an offer to mediate between Armenia and Azerbaijan over the dispute, and Iran's Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki earlier suggested a trilateral meeting with his Armenian and Azerbaijani counterparts to resolve the dispute.

                    Both Azerbaijan and Armenia claim the territory of Nagorno-Karabakh, which is largely populated by Armenians but located in Azerbaijan.

                    Ethnic Armenian forces took control of the Nagorno-Karabakh region during a war with Azerbaijan in the early 1990s.

                    The conflict left an estimated 30,000 people dead and one million displaced before the two sides agreed to a ceasefire in 1994. However, a peace accord has never been signed.


                    MYA/HGH/MMN


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                    Iran will continue to support Azerbaijan in Karabakh issue?
                    September 19, 2010 - 17:49 AMT 12:49 GMT
                    PanARMENIAN.Net - Iran initially supported, supports today and will continue to support Azerbaijan in Karabakh issue, Iranian Vice President for Parliamentary Affairs Seyyed Mohammad-Reza Mir-Tajeddini said Sunday in Tehran.

                    "We have always supported Azerbaijan and denounced the occupation of Nagorno-Karabakh by Armenia," said Mir-Tajeddini on Iran-Azerbaijan conference Azerbaijan: Past Experiences and the Upcoming Prospects.

                    Mir-Tajeddini said the Caucasus region, in particular, Azerbaijan is very important both for Iran and the world. According to him, the region has important geopolitical location, is rich in energy resources with access to the sea, there are equally living representatives of all religions, Trend reported.

                    “Contribution to regional peace and security as well as resolution of conflicts in accordance with the international law is Iran’s position in principle. We stand for resolution of disputes taking into account the interests of conflicting sides. Iran’s initiatives regarding the Karabakh conflict settlement can only supplement the other endeavors to that end. We believe that all conflicts should be resolved through efforts of the countries of the region,” Iranian Foreign Minister, Dr. Manouchehr Mottaki said in an interview with PanARMENIAN.Net

                    “Iran’s official position is as follows: Iran calls on all parties to conflict to show restraint and resolve the problem peacefully. On our part, we are ready to contribute to the process,” the Foreign Minister emphasized.




                    what do you guys make of this? is it the same as when the vice president said he acknowledged the Armenian Genocide but when Turkey confronted him he backed down?
                    Good post, the attitude of Iran towards the Caucasus is the same as Russia. Always remaining vague, they say one thing against us and another thing to the Azeris. The sad truth is everybody just wants something from Armenia and they are willing to say whatever is necessary.

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                    • #30
                      Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

                      Leave it to our politicians to remain quiet on the issue.
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                      Another instance of Baku’s wishful thinking: Iranian Vice President never expressed Tehran’s support for Azerbaijan in Karabakh issue
                      September 23, 2010 - 18:42 AMT 13:42 GMT

                      PanARMENIAN.Net - Iranian Vice President for Parliamentary Affairs Seyyed Mohammad-Reza Mir-Tajeddini never said “Iran initially supported, supports today and will continue to support Azerbaijan in Karabakh issue” in his speech at Iran-Azerbaijan conference entitled Azerbaijan: Past Experiences and the Upcoming Prospects, the official representative of Iranian Embassy in Yerevan, Mr. Zarei stated.

                      “Some of Azeri media might have misinterpreted the words of the Vice President. In reality, Iran supports peaceful settlement of Karabakh conflict, without taking sides with either of the parties. Our position on the issue will always remain balanced,” Mr. Zarei emphasized in a conversation with PanARMENIAN.Net reporter.

                      “Iran initially supported, supports today and will continue to support Azerbaijan in Karabakh issue,” Azeri media cited Mohammad-Reza Mir-Tajeddini as saying.

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