Iranian-Armenian relations

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I don't know man. I've been to about 10 states and I'm pretty sure the majority of the people I've met wouldn't be able to make sense of most of the stuff we talk about on these forums. The problem is the majority of Americans don't get out much, hell they don't even have passports.

Eddo-jan and Kanada-jan: I agree that most Americans don't know the history of that part of the world: In one sense America is a literate country, and in another sense it knows so little about the rest of the world (I deal with that phenomenon as an Iranian all of the time). For this reason, most of the information war should be in the Russian, Persian, Talysh, and Chinese languages. (Armenians should also put out information in the Azerbaijani language to show them how they are being lied to by their own Pan-Turkic government.) No matter how many maps of NK/Artsakh Americans see, the a average American does not care and will not retain that information. Several years back a U.S. politician referred to Yerevan as "the capital of Georgia." You will be lucky if the average American can identify the capital of their own state of residence.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Though many Americans are ignorant about world history and Armenia, in the same respect I doubt the average Chinese person is well informed about Armenia. That being said I rather them know nothing about Armenia, then know about it through who*res such as kim kardashian.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Kim Kardashian is an example of what happens when an ethnic Armenian women dives head-first into the pool of Westernization (I can show you Iranian women that have met the same fate). Many cultures complain about *Western values* - it's not just us.

The Chinese also have their own problems with Pan-Turkism - where there are common problems alliances can be formed.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

The thing is she's not even Armenian. by blood, her Armenian lineage is rather sketchy (father was really half assyrian or something), she was raised by her mother who is Dutch and some other mix I believe. Culturally she has no connection to Armenians. So what makes her Armenian? her last name? If I adopt a chinese name that makes me all of sudden Chinese? In my view, our enemies have been using kardashian to defame Armenians - an Azeri politican had said that armenia's foreign policies are made in kardashian's bed room. That b*tch has caused us a lot of harm. If she could only stop lying and continue her stupid american life.

[Federate]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

Kim Kardashian is an example of what happens when an ethnic Armenian women dives head-first into the pool of Westernization (I can show you Iranian women that have met the same fate). Many cultures complain about *Western values* - it's not just us.

The Chinese also have their own problems with Pan-Turkism - where there are common problems alliances can be formed.

The difference between Armenians and Iranians (and everyone else for that matter) is that the Iranian nation can afford assimilation while for Armenians, it is a hefty price to pay. We're only 7 million Armenians with 4 million living on an expiry date.

[Persopolis]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

The difference between Armenians and Iranians (and everyone else for that matter) is that the Iranian nation can afford assimilation while for Armenians, it is a hefty price to pay. We're only 7 million Armenians with 4 million living on an expiry date.

I completely agree with what you said.

I think it would also be helpful for Armenians to have another city in Iran. Iran traditionally has protected the Armenian identity and Armenians from Iran have greatly contributed to the survival of Armenia. It would also help to counteract the Grey Wolf scheme Aliyev is trying to run in the North of Iran. (The Pan-Turkists largely blame Iran for spoiling their fantasy of a "United Turkish Super-State" that runs right through Armenia.) Armenians need to also reach out to Iranian-Azaris, who largely are not the same people as the Aliyev clan. And someone should tell Georgia that if they don't help, they're next. I've long felt that Nakhchivan should have a strong ParskaHye presence because that would do two things: (1) cut-off the land-bridge Turkey wants to have to Azerbaijan; and (2) send an implicit message to the Turks that BOTH Iran and Armenia will see misbehavior there as an attack on mutual citizens and a shared identity.

They're pushing the PT agenda as far East as China: Aliyev also imported 100-150,000 of these characters into the Republic of Azerbaijan. Aliyev is trying to Turkify the people within his borders. Armenia's survival depends on counteracting that.

[Armanen]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

The difference between Armenians and Iranians (and everyone else for that matter) is that the Iranian nation can afford assimilation while for Armenians, it is a hefty price to pay. We're only 7 million Armenians with 4 million living on an expiry date.

I think there is more than 7 million Armenians, but your point about our small size and the dangers of assimilation are valid.

[Federate]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

I think there is more than 7 million Armenians, but your point about our small size and the dangers of assimilation are valid.

Akhper jan I agree there might certainly be more in name. But I am trying to define an Armenian based on at least some knowledge about our culture and I might have to go even less than 7 million. The ones that are already lost are hard to bring back.

[Mos]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

The difference between Armenians and Iranians (and everyone else for that matter) is that the Iranian nation can afford assimilation while for Armenians, it is a hefty price to pay. We're only 7 million Armenians with 4 million living on an expiry date.

And we have a very large diaspora, with the diasporans split among their original countries (hayastanics, beirutsis, etc). I fear more of Armenian assimilation in USA than in Russia, where I have witnessed much less assimilation of Armenians.

[Armanen]

Re: Iranian-Armenian relations

And we have a very large diaspora, with the diasporans split among their original countries (hayastanics, beirutsis, etc). I fear more of Armenian assimilation in USA than in Russia, where I have witnessed much less assimilation of Armenians.

Well, also if assimilation occurs in Russia they are at least close to the homeland, and the average Russian has heard of Armenia and can more or less point it out on a map. Also, Russian culture is closer to Hayastanci culture than is American.