Biasedness of the European Union - USA - Western countries towards Armenia

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Sarkisian To Shun NATO Summit In Protest


Armenia -- President Serzh Sarkisian delivers a speech in Moscow, 16Nov2010.
19.11.2010
Emil Danielyan

President Serzh Sarkisian announced late on Friday that he will not attend the upcoming NATO summit in Lisbon because of the alliance’s plans to uphold Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

Sarkisian’s spokesman Armen Arzumanian said a draft resolution due to be adopted at the weekend summit calls for solutions to the ethnic disputes in the South Caucasus reflecting only the principle of territorial integrity.

In a written statement, Arzumanian warned that this “unacceptable” wording would complicate the Karabakh peace process “especially against the backdrop of the recent unprecedented rise in Azerbaijan’s military spending and its leaders’ Armenophobic rhetoric.”

“Given this concern, the president of the Republic of Armenia has decided not to depart to Lisbon,” he said, adding that Armenia will be represented at the summit by its defense and foreign ministers.

NATO did not immediately react to the dramatic move. Its draft resolution strongly opposed by Yerevan has not been officially publicized yet.

The United States and another key NATO member, France, advocate a Karabakh settlement based on territorial integrity and two other internationally recognized principles: peoples’ right to self-determination and non-use of force. A combination of these principles is at the heart of a framework peace accord put forward by the U.S., Russian and French co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group.

Earlier this year, the mediators urged the conflicting parties to refrain from a selective interpretation of elements of the proposed settlement.

Sarkisian was invited to the NATO summit along with the presidents of Azerbaijan, Georgia, Russia and other partner states. Speaking in Yerevan in September, NATO’s special representative to the South Caucasus, Robert Simmons, portrayed that invitation as a further sign of Armenia’s growing ties with the Western alliance. Simmons singled out the Armenian participation in the NATO-led multinational force in Afghanistan.

In Arzumanian’s words, Yerevan remains committed stepping up cooperation with NATO and considers that one of the “components” of its national security strategy. “We highly appreciate NATO’s contribution to the process of reforming the Armenian armed forces,” said the presidential press secretary.

But, he added, Armenia can not accept “generalized formulations” relating to different regional conflicts.

http://www.azatutyun.am/content/article/2225186.html

Bravo!.. henz senz..

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Sarkisian To Shun NATO Summit In Protest


Armenia -- President Serzh Sarkisian delivers a speech in Moscow, 16Nov2010.
19.11.2010
Emil Danielyan

President Serzh Sarkisian announced late on Friday that he will not attend the upcoming NATO summit in Lisbon because of the alliance’s plans to uphold Azerbaijan’s territorial integrity in the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

Sarkisian’s spokesman Armen Arzumanian said a draft resolution due to be adopted at the weekend summit calls for solutions to the ethnic disputes in the South Caucasus reflecting only the principle of territorial integrity.

In a written statement, Arzumanian warned that this “unacceptable” wording would complicate the Karabakh peace process “especially against the backdrop of the recent unprecedented rise in Azerbaijan’s military spending and its leaders’ Armenophobic rhetoric.”

“Given this concern, the president of the Republic of Armenia has decided not to depart to Lisbon,” he said, adding that Armenia will be represented at the summit by its defense and foreign ministers.

NATO did not immediately react to the dramatic move. Its draft resolution strongly opposed by Yerevan has not been officially publicized yet.

The United States and another key NATO member, France, advocate a Karabakh settlement based on territorial integrity and two other internationally recognized principles: peoples’ right to self-determination and non-use of force. A combination of these principles is at the heart of a framework peace accord put forward by the U.S., Russian and French co-chairs of the OSCE Minsk Group.

Earlier this year, the mediators urged the conflicting parties to refrain from a selective interpretation of elements of the proposed settlement.

Sarkisian was invited to the NATO summit along with the presidents of Azerbaijan, Georgia, Russia and other partner states. Speaking in Yerevan in September, NATO’s special representative to the South Caucasus, Robert Simmons, portrayed that invitation as a further sign of Armenia’s growing ties with the Western alliance. Simmons singled out the Armenian participation in the NATO-led multinational force in Afghanistan.

In Arzumanian’s words, Yerevan remains committed stepping up cooperation with NATO and considers that one of the “components” of its national security strategy. “We highly appreciate NATO’s contribution to the process of reforming the Armenian armed forces,” said the presidential press secretary.

But, he added, Armenia can not accept “generalized formulations” relating to different regional conflicts.

http://www.azatutyun.am/content/article/2225186.html

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Destruction Of Armenian Cross-Stones By Azeri Authorities To Be Discussed On The Sidelines Of UNESCO Inter-Governmental Committee Meeting

ArmInfo
2010-11-15 22:49:00

ArmInfo. The destruction of Armenian cross-stones by the Azeri
authorities will be discussed by UNESCO Inter-governmental Committee
for Safeguarding Intangible Cultural Heritage on the sidelines of its
meeting in Nairobi Nov 15-19, Kristina Mehrabyan, First Secretary
of UNESCO National Committee of the Foreign Ministry of Armenia,
said in an interview to ArmInfo.

She said that the Committee is considering applications for including
51 elements from 29 countries in the representative list of intangible
cultural heritage. Armenia has applied for registration of the
cross-stones.

Mehrabyan said that the destruction of cross-stones in Azerbaijan
is not on the agenda of the meeting but Deputy Culture Minister of
Armenia Arevik Samuelyan will raise this question behind the scenes.

She said that this issue is regularly discussed at different levels
and stressed the necessity of tough sanctions.

To remind, in 2005-2006 the Azeri authorities destructed medieval
Armenian cemetery near Julfa in the territory of Nakhichevan. The
local cross-stones were crushed.

Armenia has repeatedly asked UNESCO to investigate this case but has
received no response so far.

Last year, when asked by ArmInfo if UNESCO might send a group of
experts to the scene, UNESCO Spokesman Roni Amelan missent a letter
where he complained to his colleagues that "a dreadful Armenian
journalist who keeps cropping up despite our very discouraging
responses has written to enquire for the 10,000th time in a couple
of years about a UNESCO mission to Armenia and Azerbaijan."
This letter has proved that UNESCO not only ignores this problem but
is doing its best to sweep it under the carpet.

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Nationalist Backlash Halts Azeri Film Festival in Yerevan


Rather than watch films about daily life in Azerbaijan, Armenians apparently prefer movies about how their neighbors hate them. From EurasiaNet.
16 November 2010

An attempt to screen Azerbaijani short films in the Armenian capital of Yerevan has failed, blocked in large part by a blitz of opposition spread by social networking websites. But the organizers say they are undaunted and will try to go ahead with the film festival at a later date.


The festival, organized by the Caucasus Center of Peace-Making Initiatives, a local nongovernmental organization that promotes conflict resolution, had been scheduled for 12 November, following nearly a year-long search to find a venue willing to host the program. The festival, called “Stop!” in reference to its attempt to stop ethnic intolerance, also failed to open last year.


Gevorg Vanian, the director of the Caucasus Center of Peace-Making Initiatives and the festival’s initiator, blamed a last-minute refusal from the festival’s venue to stage the screenings for the cancellation, but added that “everything is much more deeply-rooted and complicated” than the venue snafu. At the same time, he tried to remain upbeat, exuding a show-will-go-on spirit.

“The festival of Azerbaijani films in Armenia has not failed; it has rather been blocked,” Vanian said. “I won’t give up on my plans; I assure you I’ll be consistent in my efforts at organizing the festival.


“By showing these films, we’re trying to initiate a dialogue within Armenia,” Vanian said when announcing the festival last October. The U.S. Embassy in Yerevan, which supported the project, said that it had backed the festival “to promote an appreciation for tolerance, multiculturalism and the expression of diverse views and opinions.”

The planned 93-minute-long program eschewed films about Azerbaijan and Armenia’s 22-year-long conflict over the region of Nagorno-Karabakh. Instead, it featured four short films about daily life in Azerbaijan, shot in 2007 and 2008.


Armenian opposition to the festival proved particularly virulent on Facebook. Writer Lusine Vayachian, who provided technical support for the festival, came under attack after posting an announcement about Stop! on the social network. “Are you not afraid that the day will come, and you and your Aliev-like degenerates will redeem impudence with blood?” one Facebook user wrote Vayachian in reference to Azerbaijani President Ilham Aliev.


Meanwhile, another showing of Azerbaijani-made films had an easier time. In response to Stop!, the non-governmental cultural organization Zharang (“Heir”) held screenings of Azerbaijani and Turkish films with the title “Hatred Towards Armenians in Turkish and Azerbaijani Movies.”


“Our young people must understand how they are being presented in the neighboring countries,” said Zharang Chairperson Karen Vrtanesian. “[A]nother big question is how we are going to communicate with the people who were brought up on this stuff.”


A former Armenian ambassador to Canada, Ara Papian, fears that holding a festival like “Stop!” in Yerevan without a similar event in Baku would encourage the outside world to think that ethnic tolerance needs to be encouraged only among Armenians – an impression that he asserts would be perceived “as a sign of weakness.”


“The level of tolerance in Armenian society is several times higher than that of the Azerbaijani society,” claimed Papian, who heads the Modus Vivendi Center, a local think tank.


Vanian commented that his goal was to “create a free platform and present the real Azerbaijan” without influence from the “universal, total propaganda” that is widely circulating in Yerevan.


Some nationalist youth groups were strongly opposed to the festival. An 11 November statement from five youth organizations argued that Armenians “have no moral right to show Azerbaijani films” so long as Azerbaijan pursues an “anti-Armenian” policy. The youth wing of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation-Dashnaktsutiun [political party] called the film festival “blasphemous” and a sign of “disrespect for Armenia and the Armenian people.”


One young Yerevan resident wondered why the festival organizers continue to fight such sentiments. “I don’t understand why they keep trying to hold such a festival for months when this idea gets no support from society,” commented 22-year-old student Anush Soghomonian. “Do all these refusals, criticism and obstacles have no impact?”

But the controversy over the Azerbaijani film festival left some young Armenians cold. “I really don’t understand why people make so much fuss about this festival,” commented 30-year-old Yerevan accountant Satenik Manukian. “Don’t attend it if you don’t want to; as for me, it’s interesting how Azerbaijanis live and what they think.”

Nane Abgarian, a 25-year-old Yerevan student says she has found Azerbaijani friends via various international youth programs; no harm is done in “getting to know” Azerbaijani culture, she asserted.


“This is a festival and not propaganda,” she said.

Marianna Grigoryan is a freelance journalist based in Yerevan. A partner post from EurasiaNet.

And again Western-funded media have found a new way to critize Armenia. Funding an Azerbaijani-film show in Yerevan, and not doing the same in Baku. Stating afterwards how ''nationalistic'' we are and ''not tolerant''.

The title itself is disgusting; Rather than watch films about daily life in Azerbaijan, Armenians apparently prefer movies about how their neighbors hate them. From EurasiaNet.

The Western world is biased. They care about oil and money, this is the reason they do not heavily critize Azerbaijan. This is why they ignore the Sultanate of Aliyev. This is why they ignore the anti-Armenian racism. This is why they ignored the Julfa Destruction (which even I did not believe they would). ''Recognizing'' the Armenian genocide and simultaneously cooperating in every field with the successors of the devils.

Yes, Armenia needs reforms. Armenia needs to prosper, Armenia needs to be an Armenian country in which all Armenians have equal rights. But never, not now, and in the future, put your hope on Western countries because the fundament of their politics is based upon imperialism and exploitation.

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Sure you aren't anti-Western...Their history? What particularly about their history bothers you? The same brutality that you speak of can be seen in every history don't only isolate it to Europe. And the culture is a Western culture than can be seen in many countries even stretching to East Asia. The only place it doesn't exist maybe is in Islamic countries like Iran or Pakistan.

Not only in history, but even this day Western countries economy is based upon exploitation and imperialism. I am not going to discuss this further with you, it was because you are blaming the Islamic Republic of brutalities and murder, something which most of the Western countries also are involved in.

'm only emphasizing the political direction of Armenia which is towards the EU.

Armenia's political direction should be what is best for our country. We are not European, nor is our culture. We are Armenian. Yes, we should maximize our economic relations with Europe, nothing more and nothing less. If in a few years India, Brazil and China become more important players in the world, we should also have close relations with them. This does not mean we should take over the ''Chinese'' culture, or ''Indian''. We are Armenian and I don't like people wishing to be ''Europeans''. Again, I find it a shame you mix up the flag of Europe with the Armenian flag, even daring to not include the Artsakh part.

Take a look at some official governmental data not wikipedia...

Thank you for this quote. The data comes from your beloved Western CIA-World Factbook. Don't tell lies, EU is a big partner but is not ''BY FAR'' the biggest trading parnter or Armenia.

Insulting our people? When have I insulted Armenians? Stop making up BS all the time it's really annoying, I never insulted Armenian people!! And yes I disagree with Dashnak politics, does it say somewhere that in order to be an Armenian you have to be Dashnak?? Think again. There are many patriotic Armenians that don't agree with Dashnak politics.

You insult them by your quote. You insult them by your logo and you insult them by your dangerous ideas. Again, you prefer to put anti-Dashnak on your profile, over putting anti-Azeri or whatever childish comment you like to put. This tells something important about you.

Most Armenians agree with the fact that Armenia should go towards EU. That's not saying breaking relations with Russia. So now you are afraid of betrayal? You know the amount of control that Russia has over Armenia now. If there's anybody that can betray Armenia and do damage is Russia. Azeris have gas and oil, and Russia would trade our welfare for those resources in a heartbeat, don't be blind to that either.

Ofcourse, we should go towards everywhere which can improve our economic relations. It's all about money, nothing more nothing less. And about Russian investment in Armenia, I'm not going to talk it again. You are fiercly anti-Russian, biased and blind. You should be happy Russia has invested in so many things in our country which otherwise we should never have.

We are not becoming a vessel to EU (which is rather impossible as EU is not a country) we are only integrating with their structures both political and economical. Our reforms should be done with EU standards as they have the best direction for such reform.

The more I read your comments, the more I realize I am wasting my time. If you understood a tiny bit of world politics, you would understand that becoming a ''vessel'' to the EU is not impossible, in fact this is what happened to a lot of new countries joining the EU.

And yes, I can state European countries are one of the most imperialistic countries in the world. They are not there for peace, they just want power and do not care about human lives. They do not care about democracy. They do not care about justice in the world. Millions of people die, until this day, because of the policies of Western countries. They will continue to do so. So does Russia, Iran and China. But don't create the image ''Europe'' is a beaken of peace, democracy and justice, because this is simply not the case.

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ha, ba vonc, hima shat gorc unem chem qara xosal...

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Mos, hayeren xosumes?

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I am Armenian. I am not pro-European, nor am I in love with Russia. I just see the reality as it is. The European nations have fooled us too much to trust them. The European nations did not care about the Christians, nor do they care about the Armenians now. Their foreign policy is based upon imperialism, slavery and wars. They do not care about human lives. They do not care about democracy. In fact, they have succeeded in blinding their own people, so their population only thinks about sex, partying, money and have become a people of anti-Christ.

Let the world learn about our culture. We are Armenians. We were, are and will not be Europeans. We will not be Asians. We will not be Russians. We have to maintain our culture, we have to strengthen our culture and we have to make Armenia a country based on Armenian values.

Whilst I agree with you that the Armenians should preserve their own cultural and ethnic identity. This anti-Western bias of your is immature and you are making all sorts of generalisations. Armenia has little to lose by improving it's bilateral relations with the EU and Europe isn't a threat to Armenia's integrity (unlike Iran).

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100% agreed with Tigranakert.

@ mos
մոս, ազգայնական դիրքորոշման փոխարեն արեւմտական դիրքորոշում ունես, որը շատ վտանգավոր է: Առավել եւս, երբ ընդհանրապես չի ճանաչում այդ “Եվրոպական արժեքների” էությունը: Այդ արժեքները ոչ միայն քաղաքացիականւ իրավունքի լավ կողմերն ունեն, այլ նաեւ… հրեշավոր կողմեր կան, որ կարող ես տեսնել միայն երբ ապրում ես նրանց համակարգում: Միայն մեկ օրինակ. արեւմտյան արժեքները լուծարում են ԸՆՏԱՆԻՔ արժեքը, լուծարում են ԱԶԳ եւ ԱԶԳԱՅԻՆ ՄՇԱԿՈՒՅԹ արժեքը եւ այլն:

1.Եվրոմիությունը ծրագրավորված եւ ստեղծված է Եվրոպական 12 բանկային կայսրությունների կողմից, իրենց սեփական շահերի եւ եւրոպական ժողովուրդներին ու պետությունները վերահսկելու համար:
2.Եվրոպական երկրներից ոչ մեկում չի եղել ժողովրդական ռեֆերենդում եւ ժողովրդից չեն հարցրել՝ արդյո՞ք նրանք ցանկանում են մտնել այդ միության մեջ: Եվ բոլորը՝ թե Ֆրանսիացին, թե գերմանացին եւ այլն, դժգոհ են այդ միությունից եւ այդ միությունը ներկայացնող դրամաշրջանառությունից:
3.Եվրոմիության տնտեսական համակարգը ստեղծողները վերցրել են նախկին Սովետական Միության կենտրոնաձիգ ձեւաչափը:

[Mos]

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I am not anti-Western. I myself lived in a Western country for a long time, it's their culture, their history, their country and I don't bother. I am open to relations with every country, but not the way you promote it. We have to have economic relations with European countries, with Asian countries, with Iran, I see no difference between them. Not a single time did I mention to cut off our ties, but as usual you do not understand a single point I make. I understand why.

Sure you aren't anti-Western...Their history? What particularly about their history bothers you? The same brutality that you speak of can be seen in every history don't only isolate it to Europe. And the culture is a Western culture than can be seen in many countries even stretching to East Asia. The only place it doesn't exist maybe is in Islamic countries like Iran or Pakistan.

Our government wants to have good relations with every country surounding us. That's the good thing to do, but luckily our government is not blinded by the European Union as you are. We realize they are no angels. We try to build good relations with EU - Russia - Iran- Arabian Countries - China and even Turkey. You blind person, you think Iran is the only country killing innocent people? Do I really have do tell you how many weapons the European Union sells to dictaters who kill people? Do I need to tell you how many dictators they directly support? Do I need to tell you how many innocent people they have killed today and the last centuries? You brainwashed, uneducated biased European you are. Have some selfrespect. I do not defend Iranians, nor do I defend Europeans. I am on neither side (thank you for showing your biasedness).

And so has every other country done bad things in their past, not country is an angel don't try to pin it all on Europe and pretend no other country has done bad things. I never said we should have bad relations with other countries, the more countries we have trade and partner relations with the better. I'm only emphasizing the political direction of Armenia which is towards the EU.

(Imports - partners: Russia 24.02%, China 8.72%, Ukraine 6.15%, Turkey 5.39%, Germany 5.36%, Iran 4.07% (2009)) Where do you get the nonsense from that the EU is ''BY FAR'' the largest economic partner? It's not true, like the many other lies you and bell-the-cat are used telling.

Take a look at some official governmental data not wikipedia...

Since 2004, the EU has become the main trade partner of each country (in 2009 trade with the EU represented 30.4% of overall trade for Armenia, 42.8% for Azerbaijan and 29.4% for Georgia). These countries' share of overall EU trade remains very low, however (less than 0.5% altogether).

http://trade.ec.europa.eu/doclib/doc...doc_113345.pdf

You are already relinquishing our culture, daring to put the European flag behind the Armenian flag, and together with that insulting our people so much, showing you have so much hatred against the Dashnaks, that you put anti-Dashnak in your quote. I feel sorry for you. You are not talking about a French movie in Armenia, so don't try to fool me here.

Insulting our people? When have I insulted Armenians? Stop making up BS all the time it's really annoying, I never insulted Armenian people!! And yes I disagree with Dashnak politics, does it say somewhere that in order to be an Armenian you have to be Dashnak?? Think again. There are many patriotic Armenians that don't agree with Dashnak politics.

The latest Gallop Poll showed more than 90% of the Armenians prefer Russia over the USA. Again I am not hostile against the EU. I just state we should have economic relations with them, and we need to realize they are not our friends nor they will be our friends in the future. One should read the history to understand their culture is based upon self-interest, imperialism and unjustice. If we do not, we will get blinded and we will have more Armenians like you, who will think we can rely on them, but when the times comes, we will get betrayed. You fool, we are Armenian and no nation, no country, no region can be comparible to us. We are on our own, we have no others except for each other.

Most Armenians agree with the fact that Armenia should go towards EU. That's not saying breaking relations with Russia. So now you are afraid of betrayal? You know the amount of control that Russia has over Armenia now. If there's anybody that can betray Armenia and do damage is Russia. Azeris have gas and oil, and Russia would trade our welfare for those resources in a heartbeat, don't be blind to that either. We are not becoming a vessel to EU (which is rather impossible as EU is not a country) we are only integrating with their structures both political and economical. Our reforms should be done with EU standards as they have the best direction for such reform.

I don't want to make you cry, but the government just thinks the same as me and many others. I never stated we need to have more corruption, and more poverty, and not improve education. These things we, Armenians, need to improve. And yes, we are slowly continueing our path, and from the inside we will infiltrate to make it less corrupt and more Armenian (not ''European'').

The government recognizes the importance of the EU, and by keeping relations with our neighbors it has stated again that EU is a priority for Armenia. Are you going to state that as well? Are you going to agree with the statements of the foreign ministers Nalbandian and Oskanian which I posted? Every year the influence of EU is growing in Armenia, there are EU information centres open in Armenia, european companies investing, many european tourists, and so on. It's not selling a culture and it's not selling Armenia. If anything we are selling Armenia to Russia not EU.