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    Well, it's good to maintain solid relations with Georgia, as we are economically dependent on them. Without the Georgia corridor, our situation would be very sad. You can whatever you want about Saakashvili, but since the revolution in 2003 he has enacted many positive reforms in Georgia, notably cracking down on corruption.
    By Naira Hayrumyan
    ArmeniaNow correspondent
    The weekend visit of Georgian President Mikheil Saakashvili to Yerevan was practically not covered by the Georgian press, and while it was called a working visit, one can hardly speak about its “working” results.

    The impression was that the Georgian leader had come to tell his Armenian counterpart about the benefits of the English language as well as hear some flattering words addressed to Georgia.
    “It wasn’t today that Armenian-Georgian friendship was born, nor will it end today, but everyone should give it a new breath in order to hand this legacy to future generations,” said Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan on Saturday at a ceremony of awarding winners of the first Armenian-Georgian school Olympiad attended by Saakashvili. Urging students to study well, the Armenian president first cited the example of great German physicist Max Planck, the founder of the quantum theory, and then of Saakashvili: “Let me give you an example of the Georgian president, who became a doctor of sciences at age 28. When he was 36 years old, he became president of Georgia. These examples are intended to prove that when people set themselves aims and fully dedicate themselves to achieving them, then success is guaranteed.” For journalists it remained a mystery why Saakashvili paid the visit. It is noteworthy that Saakashvili came to Yerevan immediately after a trip to the United States where he met U.S. President Barack Obama. Analysts suggest that the Georgian president could, following the trip to Washington, speak with Sargsyan on a new regional structure of the South Caucasus in which Moscow’s role would be diminished. And that was why political observers here speculate that Saakashvili used the visit to suggest that Armenia should, like Georgia, make a move (unofficially) to replace Russian with English as Armenia’s second language (thereby opening direct links of communication with the West that bypasses any language handicap.) Last September, speaking at the UN General Assembly, the Georgian president announced “a “new vision for creating the concept of a free, stable and united Caucasus.” He then said that after the “full-scale invasion of Russia” Georgia was returning as a laboratory of political liberal-democratic reforms and social change.” The attitude in Armenia towards Georgia has undergone a considerable change in the past couple of years. While earlier the information sphere preferred following the Russian propaganda and portraying Georgia as an enemy and Saakashvili as a menace, now President Sargsyan has acknowledged that Armenia is trying to borrow experience from Georgia in terms of the model of public administration, rule of law and in improving the business climate. Georgia’s policy is aimed not only at domestic reforms, but also at solutions to certain problems with Armenia. In any case, voices that Georgia is hostile to its Armenian-populated province of Javakh became less convincing after a modern highway connecting Javakhk not only with capital Tbilisi, but also with Armenia had been constructed. And Armenian investments began to flow to Georgia after the liberalization of the Georgian economy; and Georgia encourages these investments in every way, such as by creating free economic zones, granting tax privileges. But there are still problems between Armenia and Georgia – primarily concerning Armenian churches in Georgia. Everyone expects this issue to be addressed during a visit of the Catholicos of All Armenians Karekin II to Georgia, but such a visit has already been postponed several times. It is not known whether this issue was discussed during Saakashvili’s latest visit to Yerevan, or whether talk turned to Azerbaijan’s intention to buy the section of the Georgian gas pipeline connecting Russia with Armenia. (Georgian Prime Minister Niko Gilauri said that the Georgian government did not plan to sell the section of the North-South gas main, but Azerbaijan did not abandon its intention.) The weekend meeting rather indistinctly concluded that Armenia and Georgia should “work for the benefit and prosperity of the two states.” The presidents visited the physico-mathematical school in Yerevan and attended the closing ceremony for the Armenian-Georgian Olympiad in physics, mathematics and computer science. Saakashvili stated that the future of Armenia and Georgia is in intellect, and noted that in this respect, they [Georgians] have something to learn in Armenia. Saakashvili also promised to establish 10 presidential stipends for Armenian students to study at Georgian universities. The Georgian leader stressed that Armenian-Georgian friendship should become an example for other nations of the world. The two leaders agreed that in the near future border crossings would become simpler, more transparent and open. Vehicles will be able to move from one country to the other almost without stopping. Armenia was apparently interested more in political issues. “Long live secure Armenia, long live secure Georgia,” stated Sargsyan, stressing that the two neighboring countries have never warred against each other.
    Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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    "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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    Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

    Saakashvili seems to have straightened out after Russia set him straight....
    "Nobody can give you freedom. Nobody can give you equality or justice or anything. If you're a man, you take it." ~Malcolm X

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      Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

      Georgia has boost ties with Iran lately, abolishing visa regime (and we still have visa regime with Iran, so just comes to show), and setting up economic projects with them. In my opinion it's a sign that they are disappointed in NATO/US for not supporting them enough in the 2008 war, and want to diversify their foreign relations. Plus NATO has stated that they are not going to offer membership to Georgia, so it's been a few slaps in the face for them.

      As for our relations, we should continue strong relations, both economically and culturally. We could also take some advice from their reforms that they did in sectors like police and schools.
      Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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      "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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        Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

        Armenian, Georgian military authorities to establish cooperation
        January 25, 2011 - 18:38 AMT 14:38 GMT

        PanARMENIAN.Net - Armenia’s Deputy Minister of Defense David Tonoyan met with his Georgian counterpart Nodar Kharshiladze.

        At the meeting, the parties emphasized the importance of bilateral cooperation in military –educational and peacemaking sectors as well as reforms involving military institutions of both countries.

        Georgian delegation led by Kharshiladze visited a Military Institute after Vazgen Sargsyan and Armenian Defense Ministry’s peacemaking brigade. A meeting with Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan was on Kharshiladze’s visit agenda, Armenian Foreign Ministry press service reported.
        Interesting development
        Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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        "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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          Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

          Originally posted by 304123
          Georgian delegation led by Kharshiladze visited a Military Institute after Vazgen Sargsyan and Armenian Defense Ministry’s peacemaking brigade. A meeting with Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan was on Kharshiladze’s visit agenda, Armenian Foreign Ministry press service reported.
          How do we know this is not an excuse for a bit of spying for Azerbaijan ?
          After all they are so budy budy with them.
          Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
          Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
          Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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            Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
            How do we know this is not an excuse for a bit of spying for Azerbaijan ?
            After all they are so budy budy with them.
            sensitive areas are normally off limits, requires a security clearance, or has been declassified during such "show and tell" parties regardless of the importance or the ranking of the visitors, be it foreign or domestic nationals.
            B0zkurt Hunter

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              Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
              How do we know this is not an excuse for a bit of spying for Azerbaijan ?
              After all they are so budy budy with them.
              Give me a break, they aren't spying for Azerbaijan. In my eyes the only reason they are good with Azerbaijan is that both support territorial integrity because of their respective problems, and plus Georgia is the only way to carry gas to the West, as you can't run those pipelines across a war zone.
              Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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              "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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                Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

                Originally posted by Mos View Post
                Give me a break, they aren't spying for Azerbaijan. In my eyes the only reason they are good with Azerbaijan is that both support territorial integrity because of their respective problems, and plus Georgia is the only way to carry gas to the West, as you can't run those pipelines across a war zone.
                It goes much further than what you pointed out. They have also been in discussions on the possibility of forming a confederation.
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                  Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

                  Originally posted by Federate View Post
                  It goes much further than what you pointed out. They have also been in discussions on the possibility of forming a confederation.
                  Hea, I have heard about that.....let's see how far that gets. In all reality that is how it should be but it is hard to trust them after everything that has happened.
                  If we can get them on our side that would help a great deal.
                  B0zkurt Hunter

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                    Re: Saakashvili's State Visit to Armenia

                    Originally posted by Federate View Post
                    It goes much further than what you pointed out. They have also been in discussions on the possibility of forming a confederation.
                    Yeah I've looked into that, it was rejected by both sides, just another way of saying that "we are close to each other". Just like when Saakashvili comes down to Armenia and declares Serzh his brother.
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