Ways to help Armenia

[Artsakh]

Ways to help Armenia:

Our brave fedayis are on the frontline putting their lives on the line defending our borders and our people from the genocidal intentionals of Turkey and Azerbaboonistan.

I'm not asking you to do that, BUT THERE ARE OTHER WAYS YOU CAN HELP ARMENIA IN A REAL AND PRACTICAL SENSE:

1) VISIT ARMENIA. By visiting Armenia and spending tourist dollars there, you helping out the economy and local businesses. Make a habit of it going at least once a year. If you've never been to Armenia, don't you think visiting the homeland of your ancestors would be interesting?

2) BUY PRODUCTS MADE IN ARMENIA When you buy products made in armenia, you are helping armenia. next time you want to buy Corono beer, get kotayk or Kilikia instead. your local armenian market is packed with products made in armenia. the faster they sell, the more they'll be produced in armenia.

3) SPONSOR A FAMILY IN ARMENIA by helping a family that isn't in the best of circumstances with 20 Dollars a month, you'd be making a big difference in their lives. 20 dollars a month, can you spare it? or do you want to eat that 20 all yourself? your local hay oqnutyan miutyan can help you in finding a family or orphange to sponsor.

it's very little on your part, but for them, it makes the difference in securing bread, water, and all the basics.

[KarotheGreat]

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How will number 3 help Armenia as a state, it will help the people that you are sponsoring but it will not help the state at all. We've got to make a distinction between the people and the state because helping the state is very different from helping the poor. What Armenia needs is investments in its industries and economy. The best way to help Armenia is moving there and opening a business or collect 500€ from 1000 people then you've got 500.000€ now give that to ten people young entrepreneurs to start a business that will really help Armenia in the long run because that is what Armenia really needs help in the long run not short money throwing to make our selves feel better.

[Artsakh]

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How will number 3 help Armenia as a state, it will help the people that you are sponsoring but it will not help the state at all. We've got to make a distinction between the people and the state because helping the state is very different from helping the poor.

WRONG. The state is NOTING without its people. It is the job of any state to help its people. Since Armenia is economically developed, many poor families survive on the bare minumum: bread, water, cheese, and fruits. When people are happy and doing well, it STEGHTENS A STATE. When people are poor and miserable, IT WEAKENS IT. Since the state has budget issue, we here in the diaspora must make up for the difference. Asides from that, why wouldn't you want to help the families even if it "didn't benefit" the state, it certainly doesn't harm it? Did you except Turks or Azeris to take care of them?

When those people you sponsor spend money to buy products in Armenia, that helps local businesses and therefore the economy, and therefore the state. it's killing two birds with one stone. you help the poor and you help the state.

All those people that are working and living abroad, if they didn't send money back home to their families to live on, if they didn't "help their families", do you know what condition Armenia would be in????? Are you FREAKING KIDDIN ME??????? hatci pogh chen unena, ay erexa...

What Armenia needs is investments in its industries and economy.

that has it's place, and helping families has its place. but BOTH benefit the country as a whole.

The best way to help Armenia is moving there and opening a business or collect 500€ from 1000 people then you've got 500.000€ now give that to ten people young entrepreneurs to start a business that will really help Armenia in the long run because that is what Armenia really needs help in the long run not short money throwing to make our selves feel better.

while that's a wonderfuly fanatsy, and i would certainly encourage armenians doing that, it isn't a very practical reccomendation. You can't excpect every Armenian family to move back and open a business. ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT????

well then, the 3 points i made above are very practical ways to help Armenia in a real sense. And it wouldn't take much effort on the part of armenian living abroad.

[Artsakh]

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Armenian Remittances Soar In 2011

In what should be a major boost to Armenia’s economic recovery, cash remittances sent home by hundreds of thousands of Armenians working abroad have soared by more than 20 percent this year, according to official statistics.


The latest data from the country’s Central Bank show that the total amount of incoming cash transfers processed by local commercial banks rose by almost 25 percent to $326.7 million in the first quarter of 2011.

Non-commercial remittances, which mainly finance household expenditures, accounted fore more than three-quarters of that sum. They were up by 23.5 percent from the first quarter of last year.

The multimillion-dollar remittances have long been a major source of income for a considerable part of Armenia’s population. A rapid rise in their volume contributed to a double-digit growth of the Armenian economy, which came to an end with the outbreak of the global recession in late 2008.

Economic growth in the country resumed in 2010 amid an almost 14 percent rise in remittances. According to the Central Bank, they totaled $1.3 billion, equivalent to over 13 percent of Gross Domestic Product.

The sharper remittance increase bodes well for faster GDP growth projected by the Armenian authorities. They expect the domestic economy to expand by 4.6 percent in 2011. The International Monetary Fund and other lending institutions have made similar growth forecasts.

Armenia’s National Statistical Service (NSS) has not yet released GDP growth figures for the first quarter of 2011.

Nearly two-thirds of the total first-quarter remittances came from Russia, which is home to hundreds of thousands of Armenian migrant workers. The United States, which also has a sizable Armenian immigrant population, was the second largest source of the cash inflows with a more than 8 percent share in the total.

The rising remittances did not prevent a depreciation of the national currency, the dram, this year. The dram lost 3.2 percent and 13 percent of its nominal value against the U.S. dollar and the euro respectively since December. It steadily strengthened in the course of 2010.

In a December report, the IMF estimated that the Armenian currency is overvalued by 10-12 percent. The fund also said the authorities in Yerevan had a hand in its 2010 appreciation.

Meeting with senior government officials earlier this year, President Serzh Sarkisian acknowledged that the strong dram has hurt Armenian manufacturers and said it will slowly weaken in the coming months.

http://www.armenialiberty.org/content/article/24093774.html

[Artsakh]

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Armenia Fund Benefactor Vahe Karapetian

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WJxeRe8QMRs

[KarotheGreat]

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WRONG. The state is NOTING without its people. It is the job of any state to help its people. Since Armenia is economically developed, many poor families survive on the bare minumum: bread, water, cheese, and fruits. When people are happy and doing well, it STEGHTENS A STATE. When people are poor and miserable, IT WEAKENS IT. Since the state has budget issue, we here in the diaspora must make up for the difference. Asides from that, why wouldn't you want to help the families even if it "didn't benefit" the state, it certainly doesn't harm it? Did you except Turks or Azeris to take care of them?

No I expect them to take care of themselves in an Armenian state where they can find a job and work, because that is what will help Armenia. The Armenian state shouldn't take care of the people living in Armenia what the state needs to do is create an environment where investors will come and invest in the Armenian state. We are not socialist and we never will be again. Sending money will only help preserve the status-quo, we need to do more than that, we need to see an improvement not the preservation of the status-quo.

When those people you sponsor spend money to buy products in Armenia, that helps local businesses and therefore the economy, and therefore the state. it's killing two birds with one stone. you help the poor and you help the state.

Now my question is how long will the diaspora need to take care of Armenia? How long until we Armenians around the world can create a state that doesn't need money send from outside to survive?

All those people that are working and living abroad, if they didn't send money back home to their families to live on, if they didn't "help their families", do you know what condition Armenia would be in????? Are you FREAKING KIDDIN ME??????? hatci pogh chen unena, ay erexa...

I'm talking about finding ways to ending that and making sure that the people won't need that anymore. Let me give you an example charity organizations from Europe most of the time don't send money to Africa or South-America anymore, you know why? Because they know that it doesn't help and only creates a dependency. What they do is, they invest in those people, they help the poor farmers buy seeds, tools etc. They invest in local businesses and that helps more than giving money ever will. Is it still necessary to keep sending money to people back in Armenia? Hell yes! However is it enough? Hell no!

that has it's place, and helping families has its place. but BOTH benefit the country as a whole.

No one helps Armenia become independent and grow as a state the other creates a dependency towards the outside world, the article you posted proves that.

while that's a wonderfuly fanatsy, and i would certainly encourage armenians doing that, it isn't a very practical reccomendation. You can't excpect every Armenian family to move back and open a business. ARE YOU GOING TO DO THAT????

well then, the 3 points i made above are very practical ways to help Armenia in a real sense. And it wouldn't take much effort on the part of armenian living abroad.

I hope I'll be able to move to Armenia in a couple of years to start my own business and help the local economy with the know-how I learn in Europe and by investing in the economy. First two points will help Armenia the third will create a dependency on the diaspora (it's already there). It's up to us to fix that and create a strong and rich state, no one will do that for us. 20$ each month will not do that but what will do is investing in the country and diversify it's economy. 150 years ago we controlled all of the economy of the middle east, we created the first café in Vienna and are you going to tell me we can't do this?

[Artsakh]

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Look at the condition of the United States today. Bright, talented young men and women all over the country graduating from America's top universities, including ivy leagues, cannot find work in the so called "land of opportunity" because of the economic condition of the US.

These people put in the effort, worked hard, but due to the bad economy, and through no fault of their own, simply CANNOT FIND WORK. THERE SIMPLY ARE NO JOBS!

Would you mind please explaining to me how you would expect these people to take care of themselves in an AMERICAN state where they CAN'T find a job and work??????????

And yet, you "expect them to take care of themselves in an Armenian state where they can find a job and work, because that is what will help Armenia."

Well guess what? Those conditions do not exist in the country. There simply aren't enough jobs for everyone, no matter how hard-working or educated they may be.

And, going back to the situation facing young, educated Americans today who can't find work, what do you think would happen to them if their parents refused to let them move back home after college and refused to help them monetarily or otherwise on the basis that doing so, " doesn't help and only creates a dependency"???

What would become of these young, bright, educated young Americans? Homeless? Hungry? YOU BET!

Yes, the Armenian state should create the conditions where Armenians would be able to work and take care of themselves. However, as I've said, these conditions don't exist. As patriotic Armenians, it is our duty to help make up for the difference until Armenia stands on its feet and building a viable economy.

[Artsakh]

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Now my question is how long will the diaspora need to take care of Armenia? How long until we Armenians around the world can create a state that doesn't need money send from outside to survive?

However long it takes, or do you have other ways you would rather spend your money? Like all on yourself maybe?

"ask not what your country can do for you -- ask what you can do for your country."--JFK

[Artsakh]

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No one helps Armenia become independent and grow as a state the other creates a dependency towards the outside world, the article you posted proves that.

You are a moreon. It doesn't create dependency. They're healthy, able bodied men and women ready and willing to work, but the conditions don't exist. That's what forces many to leave armenia and seek work in the first place. And if they didn't send money back to their families, NOT only would they be unemployed, but they woouldn't even have money for bread. This isn't about dependency, this is about conditions. If you're so patriotic, move back there and become self-dependant, let's see how long youll survive without ur mommy sending you money, let's just see....

[Artsakh]

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I hope I'll be able to move to Armenia in a couple of years to start my own business ......

You just keep on hoping and talking.... meanwhile, back in reality,....