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  • #11
    Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

    Interesting article...

    Armenia's Troops in Afghanistan and Its Multi-Vectored Foreign Policy
    May 27, 2011 - 9:35am, by Joshua Kucera
    The Bug Pit Afghanistan Armenia
    Armenia's announcement this month that it was tripling its troop commitment to Afghanistan raised some eyebrows. It has no NATO aspirations, and has largely thrown in its strategic lot with Russia, as evidenced by the agreement it recently signed allowing a large, decades-long Russian military presence in the country.

    But the newest trend in Eurasian geopolitics is multi-vectored foreign policy (i.e., trying to balance relations between various big powers rather than becoming dependent on a single one), pioneered by Kazakhstan but now increasingly deliberately employed across the region. And that means that even faithfully pro-Moscow states like Armenia have to hedge their bets a little. Thus, Armenia's contribution of two extra platoons (81 soldiers) to help guard the airport in Mazar-e-Sharif, bringing its troop contribution to a total of about 130. As Deputy Defense Minister David Tonoyan told Mediamax (apparently not online, translation by BBC Monitoring) puts it:

    First of all, this step is based on Armenia's interests in accordance with the multi-layer and initiative foreign policy of our country, and demonstrates our particular place in the world order after the "cold war".

    And he played down suggestions that cooperating with NATO in Afghanistan was somehow incompatible with Armenia's membership in the Russia-led Collective Security Treaty Organization, emphasizing the CSTO's cooperation with ISAF in Afghanistan:

    Participation of the active CSTO member - Armenia - in ISAF Mission strengthens our country's relations with the North-Atlantic Alliance and EU member countries, and this is based on common interests of both our country and the international community. These interests are obvious, taking into account the assistance, rendered by CSTO-allied and our strategic partner Russia to NATO in provision of transit across its territory to Afghanistan for the transportation of and resupply for Alliance troops.

    The role of infrastructural and logistic support, provided by CSTO member countries - Uzbekistan, Kyrgyzstan and Tajikistan, is also great in terms of ensuring ISAF Mission's success. In this context, it is difficult to assess whose contribution from CSTO countries is of more importance; however it is obvious that CSTO plays a significant role in provision of security and stability in Afghanistan.

    Emil Danielyan, writing in Jamestown's Eurasia Daily Monitor, says that while the move is surprising, Russia isn't objecting too much -- probably because it understands that Armenia's commitment to NATO is modest and does not threaten its ties with Moscow:

    The Armenian government’s decision was rather unexpected against the backdrop of a new Russian-Armenian military agreement signed during President Dmitry Medvedev’s August 2010 visit to Yerevan. The agreement prolonged the presence of a Russian military base in Armenia by 25 years—until 2044—and upgraded its security mission. It also committed Russia to supply the Armenian military with more modern weaponry.

    By boosting its military commitments in Afghanistan, Yerevan is signaling that the new defense pact with Moscow will not hold it back from seeking closer military cooperation with Western powers, which has deepened significantly over the past decade. Armenia participated in the U.S.-led occupation force in Iraq with a small army contingent, and currently has about 80 soldiers serving in Kosovo under NATO command...

    Still, Moscow has never publicly faulted Yerevan, suggesting that it does not yet consider the growing Armenia-NATO ties a cause for serious concern. According to Anatoly Tsyganok, a Russian defense analyst, the Kremlin “does not quite like” them but at the same time “understands the difficult situation Armenia is in. Russia will not insist that the Armenian armed forces stop cooperating with NATO,” Tsyganok was quoted by Regnum as saying on May 13.

    Furthermore, there are reasons beyond geopolitics for the deployment. Forces that take part in missions like this gain valuable practical experience, something that the CSTO can't really offer. Tonoyan again:

    [I]n terms of experience exchange, due to participation of Armenian military in ISAF, our units familiarize on the spot with Western military art and military culture, employ in combat the most advanced armament, military equipment and high technologies, supplied by the German side, adopt new tactics. All this is of highest value in terms of our defence reforms and development of the Armenian Armed Forces. This is not only participation in multi-national operations, but also an intensive training and education for our peacekeepers.

    However, no comment yet from the Taliban, which responded strongly to Kazakhstan's announced deployment, which turned out to be all of four soldiers. Perhaps, as the first country ever to adopt Christianity, the Taliban considers Armenia a lost cause.
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    • #12
      Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

      Why would Moscow fault Yerevan? When you look at the Armenian contribution too the CSTO it is a joke. But a good bit from a small place like Armenia. Besides as pointed out other places Moscow is contributing to an over land route to supply Nato... not too far off from Armenia saying Hello!

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      • #13
        Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

        -revenge for Mujahadeen in Karabakh war.
        -make sure no one else suffers like we did in Afghanistan the first time.
        Hopefuly Armenians there can help save the lives of some soldiers so they may see thier families again.

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        • #14
          Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

          Originally posted by Odysseus View Post
          -revenge for Mujahadeen in Karabakh war.
          -make sure no one else suffers like we did in Afghanistan the first time.
          Hopefuly Armenians there can help save the lives of some soldiers so they may see thier families again.
          I highly doubt we are there for "revenge". We are there just to add a point to our Western ties and also build some experience with Western forces.
          Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
          ---
          "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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          • #15
            Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

            oh i forgot to add that. but Armenia dose also show to the Muj that they are coming to their house to kick some more ass.

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            • #16
              Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

              Originally posted by Odysseus View Post
              oh i forgot to add that. but Armenia dose also show to the Muj that they are coming to their house to kick some more ass.
              But Armenians are not in a combat role there, they are merely helping protect one of the airports with the German force.
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              • #17
                Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

                Originally posted by Mos View Post
                I highly doubt we are there for "revenge". We are there just to add a point to our Western ties and also build some experience with Western forces.
                I agree with you. It does feel right thought for Armenians troops to be present in Afghanistan. After all, those mujahideen scum (precursor to taliban) were had no business being in Artsakh yet were aiding the azeris, and did more damage in the short period they were involved than the azeris, relatively speaking.
                For the first time in more than 600 years, Armenia is free and independent, and we are therefore obligated
                to place our national interests ahead of our personal gains or aspirations.



                http://www.armenianhighland.com/main.html

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                • #18
                  Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

                  Armenia Beefs Up Afghanistan Deployment


                  Afghanistan - An Armenian soldier guards a military airport near Kunduz.
                  21.06.2011

                  The Armenian military announced on Tuesday the deployment of 81 additional troops in Afghanistan that almost tripled its presence in a NATO-led multinational force stationed there.

                  The Defense Ministry in Yerevan said the two army platoons will serve in the northern Afghan city of Mazar-e-Sharif. It said they are tasked with protecting the local airport used by NATO’s International Security Assistance Force (ISAF) for Afghanistan.

                  Forty other Armenian soldiers have performed a similar mission in another northern Afghan city, Kunduz, since the beginning of last year. Another five Armenian military personnel were sent to the area to train an Afghan army unit early this year.

                  The latest troop deployment stems from amendments to an agreement with NATO that was signed by the Armenian government in late 2009. They commit Yerevan to having up to 130 servicemen in Afghanistan at least until the end of 2012. That number could temporarily reach 260 during regular troop rotations.

                  The Armenian parliament approved the amended agreement on May 11. Defense Minister Seyran Ohanian told the National Assembly that the extra troops were requested by Germany, which is in charge of ISAF’s Northern Command headquartered in Mazar-e-Sharif. He said the German government will continue to finance the Armenian contingent.

                  A Defense Ministry official told RFE/RL’s Armenian service that the 81 soldiers were flown to Afghanistan after completing a three-week training course in Germany. The troops deployed in Kunduz have undergone similar training.

                  Ohanian, who visited Afghanistan last July, said last month that the additional troop deployment in Afghanistan will boost Armenia’s ties with NATO and raise its international profile. He also argued that neighboring Georgia and Azerbaijan have larger ISAF contingents.

                  The Armenian military announced on Tuesday the deployment of 81 additional troops in Afghanistan that almost tripled its presence in a NATO-led multinational force stationed there.
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                  • #19
                    Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

                    I wonder if we will get into any combat situations with this larger force...NATO should know that we decimated those bastards in Karabakh War.
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                    • #20
                      Re: Armenia and Afghanistan War

                      This is good. ROA is doing a good job of staying in the middle of Russia and U.S.A

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