Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

[Artsakh]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Kurdish Rebels Defiant Against Turkey: 'Freedom Is Our Right'

http://www.haaretz.com/news/world/.premium-1.671979

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Just in case anybody missed the question...

Does anyone from anywhere know of even one of the over three thousand (3,000 +++ ) Armenian villages that are now occupied by almost exclusively kurds that has an Armenian CEMETARY that hasn't been abused or destroyed???

The kurds are ignoring the rights they denied to Armenian and all other people's of that land.
The --- only injustice --- they speak of is injustice to themselves.

The question still remains ... Does anyone (including kurds) know of any Armenian cemeteries in ANY of the over 3,000 Armenian villages that are now occupied by overwhelming kurd majority, that have not been abused or destroyed?

[gokorik]

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@ Artashes
It wasn't even a week ago you were arguing that a genocide against the Kurds wouldn't be a genocide but justice. The indiscriminant murder of men women and children is your idea of justice..!? LOL! You are insane if you really think that.

I get it, there are/were groups of Kurds who wish to Kurdify Armenian land, destroy any evidence of our ancestors but my argument is does that give you the right to indiscriminately kill all of them? Again you're saying that it does. WTF!

Haven't the Persians, over the centuries, comited those very crimes you talk about? Destroying cemeteries, killing Armenians, occupying Old Armenia. So do you think we should comit a genocide against the them? What about the Arabs. Where's this mentality take us?

If there was a Kurd, Arab or whatever infront of me and I knew they killed an Armenian because he or she was Armenian or Christian, then that person deserves to die. But if you bring me his/her child and tell me he/she deserves to die because of what their parents did, I'd tell you to F yourself because thumb done anything but be born to a murderer. And here you are, trying to yell to the 4 corners of the world that all Kurds are dirty guilty subhuman deserving only to be justly murdered.. facepalm



Not sure what you think isn't right about my post but instead of beating around the bush just call me out on whatever conspiracy you've cooked up in your head. What? You think im a Kurd? Lol i don't care if you do.[/

gokorik is referring to my post #20787 in the negorno karabakh military balance thread.

gokorik , you have made up words I never said. The words and meaning you have fabricated certainly help carry your argument, but have no merit.
Pull up my post and show everyone.
I'm not computer savvy enough to do that.
Ya idiot, you accuse me of ??? Advocating children should die???
Your words not mine jerk.
You accuse me of advocating genocide, you fkn jerk. Those are your words not mine.
You accuse me of a fantasy conspirator ,whilst you (literally) fantasize I call you a kurd.
Pull up my post and exhibit to all how you can change my words and meaning to suit you argument.
You turned out to be a jerk.
Pull up the post and show everyone how you conclude I said any of the crap --- YOU --- wrote

Here bud, let me put it into context for you since you're having a hard time.

Hyefighter2 posts #20779

Our artillery can make a new genocide bro

And you follow up that post with post #20787

You talk about all the crimes the Kurds commited and then you end off your post with

If we kill any of them for that, it ain't genocide. It's justice.

Again you are deffending hyefighter2 post #20779 which is reffering to our artillery creating a Kurdish genocide, and you go on to say in essence our artillery creating a Kurdish genocide isn't genocide but justice... LOL! Im not putting words in your mouth you are. Proofs in the pudding. However you'd like to justify it a genocide is a genocide.

Jerk jerk jerk jerk LOL please.

The destying of the graves is some f'ed up stuff but again can you show me how it works in your head that all the kurds have to be punished for the crimes of some. How manny people dose it take to destroy however many cemeteries they have? 5 million? 10 million 20 million? Are they all guilty of the crime? All 20 million? Its disgusting dont get me wrong but im not gona look at an entire race all crooked because there are f'ed up people amidts them. So your saying every cemetery has been destroyed?

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

The kurds are ignoring the rights they denied to Armenian and all other people's of that land.
The --- only injustice --- they speak of is injustice to themselves.

The question still remains ... Does anyone (including kurds) know of any Armenian cemeteries in ANY of the over 3,000 Armenian villages that are now occupied by overwhelming kurd majority, that have not been abused or destroyed?

kurd speaks of outrage for themselves. No mention of the unbelievable outrage(s) they committed against virtually all the indigenous people of the land they are fraudulently claiming.
Not one word of shame.
Not from a kurd.

Many Kurds have aknowledged the crimes their ancestors have commited. Ill start getting a list of articles to prove it. Saying sorry and actualy doing someting to make it right are completly different tho. Lets see what they do if they get their own state. With the amount of sophisticated arms available to be purchased in that region now it seem the Turks are in for a shlackin.

[Artashes]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Here bud, let me put it into context for you since you're having a hard time.

Hyefighter2 posts #20779


And you follow up that post with post #20787

You talk about all the crimes the Kurds commited and then you end off your post with


Again you are deffending hyefighter2 post #20779 which is reffering to our artillery creating a Kurdish genocide, and you go on to say in essence our artillery creating a Kurdish genocide isn't genocide but justice... LOL! Im not putting words in your mouth you are. Proofs in the pudding. However you'd like to justify it a genocide is a genocide.

Jerk jerk jerk jerk LOL please.

The destying of the graves is some f'ed up stuff but again can you show me how it works in your head that all the kurds have to be punished for the crimes of some. How manny people dose it take to destroy however many cemeteries they have? 5 million? 10 million 20 million? Are they all guilty of the crime? All 20 million? Its disgusting dont get me wrong but im not gona look at an entire race all crooked because there are f'ed up people amidts them. So your saying every cemetery has been destroyed?

You have taken my post and misrepresented what I said.
In hyefighters post, I respond by saying ..… no Armenian seeks genocide and I tell him his choice of words is bad.
You then take one of my last sentences as if I responded with that sentence in the beginning of post.
My sentence of ... If we go in there and kill any ... Is not genocide but justice , has nothing to do with advocating genocide.
You clearly are not understanding my post or refuse to understand.
Again you use same argument that not all kurds but only some. The destruction of graveyards by some kurds is supported by community ... The destructors come from those communities, the same as the kurd fighter in west Armenia is really supported by those communities or they could not operate.
You still rearainge my words to suit your argument and distort what I said.
Pull my post and hyefighters post up so everyone can see.
You are clearly not comprehending what I wrote but rather continue your meritless accusations.
Pull up the post and show everyone.

[gokorik]

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You have taken my post and misrepresented what I said.
In hyefighters post, I respond by saying ..… no Armenian seeks genocide and I tell him his choice of words is bad.
You then take one of my last sentences as if I responded with that sentence in the beginning of post.
My sentence of ... If we go in there and kill any ... Is not genocide but justice , has nothing to do with advocating genocide.
You clearly are not understanding my post or refuse to understand.
Again you use same argument that not all kurds but only some. The destruction of graveyards by some kurds is supported by community ... The destructors come from those communities, the same as the kurd fighter in west Armenia is really supported by those communities or they could not operate.
You still rearainge my words to suit your argument and distort what I said.
Pull my post and hyefighters post up so everyone can see.
You are clearly not comprehending what I wrote but rather continue your meritless accusations.
Pull up the post and show everyone.

Whatever you say bro. Everyone can make a judgment on what you meant for themselves. It really seems like you saying what i think. You can post hyefighter2 posts yourself. Who am i your secretary? Im sure if anyone really wanted to they would be capable of looking it up themselves.

[gokorik]

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Again you use same argument that not all kurds but only some. The destruction of graveyards by some kurds is supported by community ... The destructors come from those communities, the same as the kurd fighter in west Armenia is really supported by those communities or they could not operate.

We have no clue how those attrocites actually took place. Was it a few kurds was it many, did people protest? Were there fights between those that were desecrating graves and others that disagreed? Were the people that disagreed to scared to do something about it because it would put their family in danger. Were these events in the 20's? Or were they yesterday?

You're trying to paint things black and white im trying to tell you real life has many shades of grey. Thing are rarely ever so simple.

[Artashes]

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Whatever you say bro. Everyone can make a judgment on what you meant for themselves. It really seems like you saying what i think. You can post hyefighter2 posts yourself. Who am i your secretary? Im sure if anyone really wanted to they would be capable of looking it up themselves.

Everyone can make a judgement on what I said ?
A judgement of hat I said does not include changing the meaning of what I said.
I fashioned those words to mean specifically what I meant. That's not open to reinterpret.
If you didn't understand you could ask, but you didn't. Rather instead you inserted your meaning and then accuse me of what you said.
The reason I said pull my & hyes post up was because you selectively change my words by taking them out of context.
The jerk comments emmediately follow your total fabrication to depict what I wrote as advocating child murder and genocide etc. again you take my comments out of context to further your meritless and fraudulent tact.

[gokorik]

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Why are there still some graves that were abused? Why werent they destroyed? If every Kurds a genocide compeled animal why are there still khatchkars left in some places? Again things arent as black and white as you're trying to paint it.

[gokorik]

Re: Prospects of a Kurdish state and what it means for Armenia

Everyone can make a judgement on what I said ?
A judgement of hat I said does not include changing the meaning of what I said.
I fashioned those words to mean specifically what I meant. That's not open to reinterpret.
If you didn't understand you could ask, but you didn't. Rather instead you inserted your meaning and then accuse me of what you said.
The reason I said pull my & hyes post up was because you selectively change my words by taking them out of context.
The jerk comments emmediately follow your total fabrication to depict what I wrote as advocating child murder and genocide etc. again you take my comments out of context to further your meritless and fraudulent tact.

Yes you specifically fasioned those words to meant that killing any kurd is not genocide and calling it a genocided was a poor choce of words rater it shood be looked at as justified revenge. Who the hell do you think you're kidding?