Regional geopolitics

[Vrej1915]

Re: Regional geopolitics

Ռոբերտ Ուոլթերը որոշել է ԼՂ-ի հետ կապված «գործն» արագ գլուխ բերել. «Հայկական ժամանակ»

15 Սեպտեմբերի 2015,


«Բռնության աճը Լեռնային Ղարաբաղում և Ադրբեջանի մյուս գրավյալ տարածքներում» զեկույցի հեղինակ Ռոբերտ Ուոլթերը՝ Մեծ Բրիտանիայից, փաստահավաք առաքելությամբ կայցելի ԼՂ շփման գիծ՝ Ադրբեջանի տարածքից, սեպտեմբերի 15-16-ին»: Սույն տեղեկատվությունը երեկ հայտնվեց ԵԽԽՎ պաշտոնական կայքում:

Իր պրոադրբեջանական հայացքներով հայտնի Ուոլթերը, հիշեցնենք, Մեծ Բրիտանիայում մայիսին տեղի ունեցած խորհրդարանական ընտրություններից հետո պառլամենտ չէր անցել, ուստի չէր կարող ԵԽԽՎ գործուղվել և պատրաստել սկանդալային անվանումով զեկույցը: ՄԲ պառլամենտ մտնելու նրա միակ շանսն այն էր, որ նշանակվեր լորդ, բայց երեկվա դրությամբ լորդերի ցանկում նրա անունը չկար:

Մեր թղթակցին հաջողվեց ճշտել, որ Ուոլթերի լիազորությունների ժամկետն ավարտվում է նոյեմբերի 7-ին և նրա՝ լորդ նշանակվելու շանսը չնչին է: ԵԽԽՎ աշնանային նստաշրջանն սկսվում է սեպտեմբերի 29-ին և, փաստորեն, որոշվել է զեկույցի գործն արագ գլուխ բերել»,-գրում է թերթը:

[Vrej1915]

Re: Regional geopolitics

AZERBAIJAN READY TO RETAKE KARABAKH

Vestnik Kavkaza, Russia
Sept 14 2015


Azerbaijan has completed major command and staff drills, which were
attended by 65 thousand soldiers of the Air Forces, Air Defense,
naval, missile and artillery troops. The divisions were raised on
alarm and moved a distance of over 300 km.

The maneuvers almost escalated into a resumption of active hostilities
over Nagorno-Karabakh, when planes of the Armenian Armed Forces,
which were involved in the exercises for the deployment of hospitals
and evacuation of the wounded, approached the Azerbaijani border.

The Air Forces and Air Defense of Azerbaijan spotted the enemy and
forced the enemy fighters to return to the Armenian territories.

Azerbaijan's Defense Minister Zakir Hasanov ordered Armenian planes
to be destroyed if they crossed the border between the two countries.

The head of the Defense Ministry also ordered a response to any
violation of the ceasefire regime on the contact line from the
Armenian side. "If they continue to bombard our civilian population,
by my order we will fire back not only on their positions, but also
on settlements. We have no other way. We have repeatedly warned them
about the inadmissibility of the shelling of civilians, but they do
not stop shooting at peaceful people," the minister stressed.

The exercises were held on the order of the Supreme Commander of
the Armed Forces, President Ilham Aliyev, their aim was to test the
readiness of the whole army of Azerbaijan. "I declare that the level
of combat readiness of the Armed Forces allows us to liberate the
occupied territories. I would like the enemy understand that they
could end tragically. While it is not too late, they must withdraw
from the occupied territories," Zakir Hasanov concluded.

The deputy director of the Political and Military Analysis Institute,
Alexander Khramchikhin, stressed the high level of combat capability
of the Armed Forces of Azerbaijan. "I would say that, on the whole,
post-Soviet Azerbaijan is second only to Russia in terms of equipping
the armed forces," he told Vestnik Kavkaza.

At the same time, according to him, the probability of resumption
of active hostilities over Karabakh is growing every day. "I have
always believed that fighting in Karabakh will be resumed. Although
it is impossible to name the exact time of the return of the war,"
Alexander Khramchikhin noted.

Military expert Uzeir Jafarov agreed that fighting could be resumed at
any moment while the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict is not resolved. "The
minister of defense and the generals have repeatedly declared that the
army is ready, and the recent exercises have achieved their goals. I
believe that these exercises will allow Armenia and the OSCE Minsk
Group to understand that Azerbaijan is not going to suffer while the
international structures organize fruitless meetings, 65 thousand
soldiers is almost the number of all the Armed Forces of Armenia,"
he pointed out.

According to the expert, these exercises can be considered as a 'final
rehearsal before the parade'. The 'parade' will begin when the signal
is received from the Supreme Commander. Meanwhile, we do not want a
lot of blood spilled in Karabakh. Armenia should understand that we are
two Caucasian republics, and Armenia will not leave the Caucasus, nor
will Azerbaijan. The faster the conflict is resolved peacefully, the
less need there will be for the use of force," Uzeir Jafarov concluded.

http://vestnikkavkaza.net/news/Azerbaijan-ready-to-retake-Karabakh.html

[Hakob]

Re: Regional geopolitics

Թուրքիան կործանումից միշտ փրկել է ռուսը. «Cui prodest» կամ ում է ձեռնտու

14 sept. 2015
Ծուխը կրակից շատ է: Թուրքիան թուլացնում են, դարձնում ավելի կառավարելի ու պակաս անկախ, սակայն դրա տրոհումը մոտ ապագայում չի լինի: Հիշեք պատմությունը. շատ ավելի ծանր վիճակում էլ է եղել Թուրքիան: Ինչ վերաբերում է մեզ, ապա, ցավոք, մնացինք անմասն, հայերի տարածքային հավակնությունների մասին անգամ թուրքերը մոռացան: Թուրքիա. ում է ձեռնտու դրա տրոհումը ու ինչ բաց թողեցինք մենք:

Russia always saved turkey from destruction? Who in their right mind would say this?
After 12 wars and hundreds of conflicts? After 450 years of intimidating, back stabbing and trying to steal lands from each other?
Even now, whole of their politics and desires crush in Syria and Middle East to the point of boiling.

I know, you would bring the Lenin/ ataturk agreements and treaties. But the ones who tangle themselfs in that part of history never look at with whom we were allied and against who, and what did that colossal mistake of ours do to us.
And then, because of only being able to see things their way, one inverted prizm, you guys being very inspired with your false conviction, fed by twisting everything, continue to convince others into repeating that colossal mistake.
Vrej jan... The sad and low points in history cannot be repeated in creating quazy realistic or unattainable future.

Quniq toghiq akhper...

[Armynia]

Re: Regional geopolitics

Թուրքիան կործանումից միշտ փրկել է ռուսը.

Թուրքիան կործանումից միշտ փրկել է ռուսը եւ արեւմուտքը.

However, even though Russians sometime helped Turks, it is always the west that stood by Turkey.


For example in Russo-Turkish War (1877–78) when the Russian liberated the Constantinople the west stood by Turkey right of way.

Another example during WW2 Turkey was collaborating with Nazi Germany over attacking Russia through Armenia, If the Stalingrad city was lost.

Finlay, it is the west that built Turkish army, airforce and navy.


Therefore, Russia is necessary ally not the west.

[Hakob]

Re: Regional geopolitics

Թուրքիան կործանումից միշտ փրկել է ռուսը եւ արեւմուտքը.

However, even though Russians sometime helped Turks, it is always the west that stood by Turkey.



For example in Russo-Turkish War (1877–78) when the Russian liberated the Constantinople the west stood by Turkey right of way.

Another example during WW2 Turkey was collaborating with Nazi Germany over attacking Russia through Armenia, If the Stalingrad city was lost.

Finlay, it is the west that built Turkish army, airforce and navy.


Therefore, Russia is necessary ally not the west.

How about 1853 Crimea war? Brits, france sent their forces (over 3/4 million) to stop Russia from smashing Turkish 300000 army and turkey into pieces. U.S. In turn provided to Turks newly developed Winchester repeating rifles which greatly helped them. Russia allied with Greace and with almost all the Balkan nations, lost. We lost great opportunity to liberate Van, Mush and rest of western Armenia, which led to Turks gradually wiping Armenian population there and replacing it with Kurds. This western meddling directly led to 1890's hamidian massacres of Armenians. The great genocide of 1915 was hatched right after this war in dark political closets of Europe and implemented by Turks.
The reverberations of this western meddling echo even today in Kosovo and rest of the Karpatia, including Donetsk and rest of Ukraine.
Now, as then, Europe and western powers will not stop in destroying nations in order to project their power and interests. The fate of Syrian Christians, alavis, Yazidis and other Ethnic religious groups shows that clearly.
Whoever is trying to portray that Russia ever saved turkey is otter lunatic. Or rather a very dangerous paid agent that is nothing but a traitor to us.

[Armynia]

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How about 1853 Crimea war? Brits, france sent their forces (over 3/4 million) to stop Russia from smashing Turkish 300000 army and turkey into pieces. U.S. In turn provided to Turks newly developed Winchester repeating rifles which greatly helped them. Russia allied with Greace and with almost all the Balkan nations, lost. We lost great opportunity to liberate Van, Mush and rest of western Armenia, which led to Turks gradually wiping Armenian population there and replacing it with Kurds. This western meddling directly led to 1890's hamidian massacres of Armenians. The great genocide of 1915 was hatched right after this war in dark political closets of Europe and implemented by Turks.
The reverberations of this western meddling echo even today in Kosovo and rest of the Karpatia, including Donetsk and rest of Ukraine.
Now, as then, Europe and western powers will not stop in destroying nations in order to project their power and interests. The fate of Syrian Christians, alavis, Yazidis and other Ethnic religious groups shows that clearly.
Whoever is trying to portray that Russia ever saved turkey is otter lunatic. Or rather a very dangerous paid agent that is nothing but a traitor to us.

Thanks for adding Hakob.

[Vrej1915]

Re: Regional geopolitics

Thanks for adding Hakob.

"The great genocide of 1915 was hatched right after this war in dark political closets of Europe and implemented by Turks."

Do you mean Petrograd?
The city where they decided Armenia without Armenians?
Where they decided to sent 300.000 Armenian conscripts from the Russian Empire must be sent from the Kavkaz to Polish front.....

[Hakob]

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J

"The great genocide of 1915 was hatched right after this war in dark political closets of Europe and implemented by Turks."

Do you mean Petrograd?
The city where they decided Armenia without Armenians?
Where they decided to sent 300.000 Armenian conscripts from the Russian Empire must be sent from the Kavkaz to Polish front.....

Listen Vrej. Bringing up insidents of somebody saying (like " I will have Armenia without Armenians" by stolypin, a one political figure, who's wife was being probably screwed by an Armenian) into Petrograd or whatever grandiose generalization you want, or the number of Armenians serving on western front, which was a practice by czarist Russia for every ethnic group serving in other corners of empire, does not compare with who really is the most damaging for us. None of those solders was massacred for being Armenian like the 200000 in Turkish army right under noses and participation by their German officers.
But you are doing a very shrewd thing also. When somebody brings a convincing factor, like I did about Europe and our genocide, you jump in by a very irrelevant or false fact as "how about this or that for Russia". Knowing very well that some of the audience here will equate both facts and the horrible history cannot be sorted out because of emotions and you will succeed in in your anti Russian crusade by creating suspicions and hatred.
Very deceiving and dangerous for our young people. Very deceiving... Who would do that?
You are not a patriot my man. You are at a minimum blinded by your hatred for Russia operative.
I wonder why suddenly you in this forum and Igor and his cohorts in other media have suddenly jumped into overdrive in this couple of weeks? Ha?
Are your handlers preparing something against Armenia? Against Russia for sure ya?

[Armynia]

Re: Regional geopolitics

J

Listen Vrej. Bringing up insidents of somebody saying (like " I will have Armenia without Armenians" by stolypin, a one political figure, who's wife was being probably screwed by an Armenian) into Petrograd or whatever grandiose generalization you want, or the number of Armenians serving on western front, which was a practice by czarist Russia for every ethnic group serving in other corners of empire, does not compare with who really is the most damaging for us. None of those solders was massacred for being Armenian like the 200000 in Turkish army right under noses and participation by their German officers.
But you are doing a very shrewd thing also. When somebody brings a convincing factor, like I did about Europe and our genocide, you jump in by a very irrelevant or false fact as "how about this or that for Russia". Knowing very well that some of the audience here will equate both facts and the horrible history cannot be sorted out because of emotions and you will succeed in in your anti Russian crusade by creating suspicions and hatred.
Very deceiving and dangerous for our young people. Very deceiving... Who would do that?
You are not a patriot my man. You are at a minimum blinded by your hatred for Russia operative.
I wonder why suddenly you in this forum and Igor and his cohorts in other media have suddenly jumped into overdrive in this couple of weeks? Ha?
Are your handlers preparing something against Armenia? Against Russia for sure ya?

If we want to be successful, we must admit the fact that none likes Armenia as much as Armenia.

Being anti-Russian or Anti-western will make you someones vassal

[Hakob]

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If we want to be successful, we must admit the fact that none likes Armenia as much as Armenia.

Being anti-Russian or Anti-western will make you someones vassal

We are not talking about who likes Armenia the most.
The issue is where lies our future based on historical and current geopolitical facts.
There is no one in the world right now, or has not been in the past, that survived without aliences or mutual agreements with others.
In the core of that aliences, which in our case is lacking multiple choices and promises to be lethal in case of miscalculation, it is outmost important to look in the past with clear anderstanding. It helps determining future possibilities and scenarios.
It is the most destructive on the other hand, spreading of hatred, lies and twisted history in order to serve someone's or some groups interests.
Especially when our public is so emotional based on our history and that can affect situation and endanger our country.
It gives me the chill to think that any individual or group has only one agenda, change public memory and opinion with propaganda.
We have been subjected to it for over 70 years in past, so I know how destructive it is.
"The truth shall set you free"
This words are too important for us.