Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

[Mos]

We all know that these days Turkey and Israel don't get along. They yell at each other like little children and hold grudges against each other over the Flotilla incident. Given this, it has created talk about Israel possibly reaching out to Armenians by supporting Armenian lobby groups or recognising the Genocide. However, we should be careful not to fall into this trap. We cannot be fooled by this childish fight between Israel and Turkey. One simple grudge should not hide the decades of Israel-Turkey alliance and partnership, the decades of Israeli governments fighting hard to support Turkey in other countries such as the US, and of course the fact that Israel maintains very close relations with Azerbaijan, to the point that the Azeri secret intelligence and Mossad cooperate actively. If we fall into the Israeli trap we will just become simply tools. Turkey thinks it can fool the Muslim World by covering up its decades of close alliance with Israel with a this diplomatic fight. Muslim world shouldn't be fooled either by Turkey's tricks, and neither should we be fooled by Israeli tricks to use us. We also cannot afford to possibly endanger our strong relations with Iran by accepting Israel's offers. The Turkey-Israel-Azerbaijan axis is not going to fade away anytime soon, it's just at a low point now, it will be revitalised soon.

[Federate]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

Apres akhpers! I agree 100%. We should be working to remind the Muslim world of this in case they are themselves falling in the other trap that is being set, the Turkish trap. We don't want crocodile tears from Israel, they have done irreparable damage to our cause over the decades and continue to do so despite the little diplomatic show Turkey and Israel are putting on.

To further demonstrate that they are still in bed, Turkey agreed to host a NATO anti-missile installation right after all this Israeli-Turkish drama. The purpose is to defend Israel from Iran, obviously. Why would Iran EVER attack Europe? It wouldn't commit suicide.

[Serjik]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

Maybe you are still young to understand these things but the missile shield is really against Russia not Iran. I was in Armenia this summer and experts were talking about this topic. Wake up bro it's about Russia.

Apres akhpers! I agree 100%. We should be working to remind the Muslim world of this in case they are themselves falling in the other trap that is being set, the Turkish trap. We don't want crocodile tears from Israel, they have done irreparable damage to our cause over the decades and continue to do so despite the little diplomatic show Turkey and Israel are putting on.

To further demonstrate that they are still in bed, Turkey agreed to host a NATO anti-missile installation right after all this Israeli-Turkish drama. The purpose is to defend Israel from Iran, obviously. Why would Iran EVER attack Europe? It wouldn't commit suicide.

[Federate]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

Maybe you are still young to understand these things but the missile shield is really against Russia not Iran. I was in Armenia this summer and experts were talking about this topic. Wake up bro it's about Russia.

Anti-Russian missile shields are based in Europe.

[Serjik]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

Radars and missile are being based around all the borders of Russia. There is opposition to it in Europe.

[Haykakan]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

Yeh the world order has Russia as its main prize. It is taking out Russia's client states one by one and Iran is the biggest. Taking out Russia is to be done over many years in a gradual process and the Russians know this well and they carefully pick their battles like they did in Georgia. I suspect several more carefully picked battles by Russia will put an end to western/zionist wet dreams.

[Federate]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

Radars and missile are being based around all the borders of Russia. There is opposition to it in Europe.

Missile shield can play multiple roles. However, this one is more aimed at Israeli defence than Russia. There's an illusion of opposition in Europe. They'll all bend down and do what their masters tell them eventually. The Russians made so much noise when the Americans were going to deploy missile shields in Europe but the Turkish one went by quietly with the Russians... Meanwhile, in Iran:

Iran's Ahmadinejad slams NATO radar in Turkey


Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad said, on Tuesday a NATO early-warning radar system that Turkey will host was aimed at protecting Israel.

The agreement between Turkey and NATO came after Turkey succeeded in removing a statement in last year's NATO summit in Lisbon which labeled Iran as one of the potential threats against which the radar could be used. Turkey objected to any wording that branded its neighbor a threat.

"This radar system is more aimed at defending the Zionist regime (of Israel)," Ahmadinejad said in a live television interview late on Tuesday.

"They want to make sure that our missiles do not reach the occupied territories, in case they acted militarily against Iran one day," he added.

"We have told our Turkish friends that it was not right to give this permission and that it was not in their benefit to do this... But such radar system will not stop the fall of the Zionist regime."

PM Recep Tayyip Erdoğan, meanwhile, has repeatedly argued against claims that the radar will be used to defend Israel, arguing that the Israeli state will not receive information because it is not a NATO member country. At a press conference in Washington on Sept. 21, he referred to "an announcement the Pentagon made to reporters, [in which] it was said that this radar will give information to Israel." Erdoğan asserted that both sides had agreed that information sharing would not occur, saying that the Americans have "corrected this and made announcements in connection to it."

Turkish and American officials previously engaged in feasibility studies for the deployment of the radar system in the eastern region of the country and agreed in mid-September that Kürecik in Malatya would be the ideal location. The area had previously been the site of a NATO base which was opened in the '60s and closed in the '90s.

Prime Minister Erdoğan said it is possible to consider the radar system an effective defense measure for Turkey itself and stressed that it is not the missile shield that is expected to be deployed in Malatya. Noting that deploying the radar system in Kürecik is not based on a bilateral agreement, Erdoğan said it is a part of the NATO program and that cities such as Adana, Diyarbakır and Erzurum were examined as well. He added that as there was previously a NATO base in Kürecik, the site was decided on as the best place to host the radar system.

http://www.worldbulletin.net/?aType=haber&ArticleID=79837

[Haykakan]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

"cities such as Adana, Diyarbakır and Erzurum were examined as well."
Our own citys are being used against us now-how sad!

[Mos]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

Apres akhpers! I agree 100%. We should be working to remind the Muslim world of this in case they are themselves falling in the other trap that is being set, the Turkish trap. We don't want crocodile tears from Israel, they have done irreparable damage to our cause over the decades and continue to do so despite the little diplomatic show Turkey and Israel are putting on.

To further demonstrate that they are still in bed, Turkey agreed to host a NATO anti-missile installation right after all this Israeli-Turkish drama. The purpose is to defend Israel from Iran, obviously. Why would Iran EVER attack Europe? It wouldn't commit suicide.

They are just hysterical of Iran. Like Iran would attack Israel or US and risk igniting a world war. Though interestingly enough, given all the fear of Iran, in the past 10 years it has been the US that has been the most aggressive and dangerous, by invading two countries and participating in military action in another. Iran has just stood still.

[Serjik]

Re: Why we should not fall into the Israel Trap

Yeah, more I read more I realize that. Everything Europe and America is doing now is connected to Russia and China. My uncle said Putin is preparing to finish off Georgia in the next year or so. I hope he is right. Putin is their nightmare. Hail Putin!!

Yeh the world order has Russia as its main prize. It is taking out Russia's client states one by one and Iran is the biggest. Taking out Russia is to be done over many years in a gradual process and the Russians know this well and they carefully pick their battles like they did in Georgia. I suspect several more carefully picked battles by Russia will put an end to western/zionist wet dreams.