Armenian Parliamentary Elections 2012

[londontsi]

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In most countries, parties are private institutions and they can do as they please.

I think your description of the structure of political parties puts democracy on its head.

Parties are not private institutions, nor can they do as they please.

They have members.
A Structure.
Periodic (yearly) Conventions open to public view.
A constitution.
Steering committees
Executive body. etc etc


More detailed description of party structures.

http://www.pinkmonkey.com/studyguides/subjects/am_gov/chap9/A0909401.asp

I am really wondering which country are they talking about?

Perhaps you should explain which country you had in mind, North Korea or Zimbabwe.


P.S. My comment do not imply agreement with the comments of the above officials.

[KarotheGreat]

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I think your description of the structure of political parties puts democracy on its head.

Parties are not private institutions, nor can they do as they please.

They have members.
A Structure.
Periodic (yearly) Conventions open to public view.
A constitution.
Steering committees
Executive body. etc etc


More detailed description of party structures.

http://www.pinkmonkey.com/studyguides/subjects/am_gov/chap9/A0909401.asp

So how does this prove that they aren't private but are public institutions? Any party can chose any candidate it wants and the general public has nothing to say about the choice of candidates. Parties themselves are most of the times oligarchies ruled from the top down.

Perhaps you should explain which country you had in mind, North Korea or Zimbabwe.


P.S. My comment do not imply agreement with the comments of the above officials.

I don't know any country where the general public is allowed to chose a party candidate. The members of a party chose it not the general public and most members vote as the top bras tells them to vote.

[Armanen]

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So how does this prove that they aren't private but are public institutions? Any party can chose any candidate it wants and the general public has nothing to say about the choice of candidates. Parties themselves are most of the times oligarchies ruled from the top down.



I don't know any country where the general public is allowed to chose a party candidate. The members of a party chose it not the general public and most members vote as the top bras tells them to vote.

In the US, thru primaries and caucuses, the people choose the candidate for higher office.

[KarotheGreat]

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In the US, thru primaries and caucuses, the people choose the candidate for higher office.

And who chooses the people that can be elected? Politics is and will stay a world of connections and know the right person. Like take the president candidate, during the party conference most of the delegates can cast their votes for whomever they want and the party and its leaders can endors and put their weight behind any candidate they want. Look at Ron Paul, there is no chance that the party will ever chose him even if he gets more delegates than the other candidates.

[Armanen]

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And who chooses the people that can be elected? Politics is and will stay a world of connections and know the right person. Like take the president candidate, during the party conference most of the delegates can cast their votes for whomever they want and the party and its leaders can endors and put their weight behind any candidate they want. Look at Ron Paul, there is no chance that the party will ever chose him even if he gets more delegates than the other candidates.

If Paul got the most delegates than many would have to vote for him, since most states require the electors to vote for the winner of their primary. And the rest would have to either vote for Paul or break 200 plus years of tradition and face the violent ire of the masses.

[Mher]

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If Paul got the most delegates than many would have to vote for him, since most states require the electors to vote for the winner of their primary. And the rest would have to either vote for Paul or break 200 plus years of tradition and face the violent ire of the masses.

Ron Paul will never be given the chance to ever put together some wins in any state anyway. He is too much of threat to the military industrial complex, Israel, and the special interests. Him and his insane ideas of responsibility, "the Golden rule", and American interest before Israel.

[KarotheGreat]

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Ruling Republican party comments on coalition partner’s recent move

February 06, 2012 | 16:59

YEREVAN. – Ruling Republican Party of Armenia (RPA) MPs consider coalition member Prosperous Armenia Party’s (PAP) recent actions as a PR move, violation of coalition agreements.

The ruling coalition’s Prosperous Armenia Party (PAP) Parliamentary Faction did not take part in National Assembly (NA) voting on the bill concerning limitations to financial operations, and thus PAP “torpedoed” the passing of the bill.

“It is a violation of coalition agreements. I believe the bill was discussed very seriously and there could be no conflict of interests. It was an anti-corruption bill, besides, a political team releases a statement prior to being absent from the voting,” head of RPA parliamentary group Galust Sahakyan told Armenian News-NEWS.am.

An Oligarch doesn't want anti-corruption laws, the shock and horror!

[KarotheGreat]

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Expert: Kocharian’s comeback will shape multipolar political system
Expert: Kocharian’s comeback will shape multipolar political system
February 6, 2012 - 12:26 AMT

PanARMENIAN.Net - Armenia is in need of a multipolar political system that would secure balance of power and parliamentarianism, Armenian political scientist said.

Levon Shirinyan told a press conference that former President of Armenia Robert Kocharian’s comeback will foster development of the above-mentioned system.

The expert further attached importance to formation of a new political, economic and ideological elite in the country as a result of free elections.

Why is it that we have to base our politics around individuals and not around ideologies? Now we'll get a "fourth" if Kocharian re-enters politics. We have Serje, Dodi Gago, LTP and now we will get an other big player. The saddest thing is that there isn't any ideological difference between those parties.

[KarotheGreat]

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It seems that some opposition forces don't want the country to improve the only thing that they want is continue their cries and BS. If Levon was truly honest and wanted to improve the country then he would be willing to follow the legal procedure and turn himself and his opposition force in to a parliamentary force and battle the government on the legal front and have their actions in the open.

Armenia’s opposition force does not rule out possibility of resigning from parliamentary seats

February 27, 2012 | 14:09

YEREVAN. – Today the opposition bloc Armenian National Congress (ANC) is the political force with the highest rating among the public, ANC Spokesperson Arman Musinyan said during a press conference on Monday.

Musinyan also said: “Even if we were to have only one MP but very free and fair [parliamentary] elections are conducted, we would consider that as the society’s evaluation of ours and other political forces’ activities. The most important for us is the holding of free and fair elections in Armenia.”

And in his words, there is but one main obstacle standing in the way of free and fair elections: the ruling regime led by President Serzh Sargsyan and the ruling coalition’s Republican Party of Armenia.

Arman Musinyan is confident that if free and fair elections were to be conducted, ANC would have a significant presence in the parliament.

And in response to the query as to whether ANC could resign from the parliamentary seats under some conditions, he said everything is possible.

The reporters also asked about ANC’s PM candidate, should it come to power, and Arman Musinyan responded: “If the [current] regime’s back is able to be broken, [the matter as to] who would be Armenia’s PM is rather secondary.”

[arakeretzig]

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It seems that some opposition forces don't want the country to improve the only thing that they want is continue their cries and BS. If Levon was truly honest and wanted to improve the country then he would be willing to follow the legal procedure and turn himself and his opposition force in to a parliamentary force and battle the government on the legal front and have their actions in the open.

yeah, and using words like "regime" and "broken back" will definitely aid their way into parliament. amateurs.