Politics in Hayastan

[londontsi]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

..... I hope the protest have brought some positive change and are not a prelude for a color revolution.

It would be so much better for the governing authorities to bring about changes before protests let alone colour revolutions.

I guess that requires commitment to the welfare of the people and strengthening of the country.

Even successful protests cast a shadow on both government and country.

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[Federate]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

The color revolution types were definitely present at Electric Yerevan. You can tell them apart from the average well-meaning protester by their incessant references to Russia. They highlight the fact that the company is Russian-owned at every opportunity for example, or talk about how this will become about toppling the government if it doesn't meet the demands of the protesters. When the government meets their demands, they simply add new ones or say how it is already "too late." They give unrealistic timetables for change on purpose so they can escalate the situation.

That said, I would say overall Electric Yerevan was a good thing and Armenian society proved smarter than others in not falling for Arab Spring or Maidan-style traps that destroy the fabrics of their country. The protesters had legitimate demands and they handled it well in terms of tactics, relations with police officers and gaining relatively major concessions from the government. Hope this proves to be a major step in stamping out systematic corruption in the country.

[Artashes]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

The color revolution types were definitely present at Electric Yerevan. You can tell them apart from the average well-meaning protester by their incessant references to Russia. They highlight the fact that the company is Russian-owned at every opportunity for example, or talk about how this will become about toppling the government if it doesn't meet the demands of the protesters. When the government meets their demands, they simply add new ones or say how it is already "too late." They give unrealistic timetables for change on purpose so they can escalate the situation.

That said, I would say overall Electric Yerevan was a good thing and Armenian society proved smarter than others in not falling for Arab Spring or Maidan-style traps that destroy the fabrics of their country. The protesters had legitimate demands and they handled it well in terms of tactics, relations with police officers and gaining relatively major concessions from the government. Hope this proves to be a major step in stamping out systematic corruption in the country.

--- hope this proves to be a major step in stamping out systemic corruption...
I dought it. Major corruption is too entrenched. They are doing damage control and not changing their ways.
This protest was directly because of electric prices and only indirectly at corruption.
If the greed ridden get their way this will soon be forgotten and it's business as usual.
These protests need to --- directly --- address systemic corruption.
As best as I can tell, everyone knows the ins and outs of this corruption . This in its entirety needs specif address.

--- paid "color revolution" shills ---
You can bet the farm USA/ cohorts *** PAID *** $$$ to a number of participants (and) coached them on specific conduct.
That wouldn't even be betting.

[Haykakan]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

I hope the government is keeping track of the color revolutionaries...they deserve "special treatment"!

[Artashes]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

Don't think that kind of revolution fomenting will work in Hayastan. That scam needs people who readily transition to fanaticism. That's not really our nature. The paid instigators would have a hard time finding followers to commit atrocities like maiden et al.
Any of the paid fomentors that were too aggressive were removed emmediately neutralizing the radical element the "west" counts on for destabilization .

[Eddo211]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

I agree with Artashes....we are not like others, we are Armenians.

[Artashes]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

Read an article today in Armenpress (I think) saying the PM thinks "inspections" should stop. The PM further states that because of economics, it's prudent to listen to the concernes of the business people.
The article doesn't state which inspections or the original intent of inspections.
Mmmm.
So the foxes think that protecting the henhouse inhibits their indeavor and the PM agrees with them.
That judgment call and all those in support of such needs to be watched (scrutinized ) closely.
The oil co. don't like rules and regulations, big bizz doesn't either, or the mining industry. It cuts into their profit.
Wouldn't want to let common sense get in the way of economic (criminal) developement.

[Haykakan]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

RUSSIA SHOOTS DOWN "US STEALTH COUP": TOUGH TIMES FOR AMERICA'S "COLOR REVOLUTION" INDUSTRY.

Center for Research on Globalization, Canada
July 31 2015

By Tony Cartalucci

Times are tough for America's "color revolution" industry. Perfected
in Eastern Europe after the fall of the Soviet Union, and honed during
the so-called "Arab Spring," the process of backing subversion in
a targeted country and overthrowing a sitting government under the
cover of staged mass protests appears to be finally at the end of
running its course.

That is because the United States can no longer hide the fact that it
is behind these protests and often, even hide their role in the armed
elements that are brought in covertly to give targeted governments
their final push out the door. Nations have learned to identify,
expose, and resist this tactic, and like Adolf Hitler and the Nazi
regime's tactic of Blitzkrieg or "lighting war," once appropriate
countermeasures are found, the effectiveness of lighting fast,
overwhelming force be it military or political, is rendered impotent.

This was most recently observed in Armenia during the so-called
"Electric Yerevan" protests - Yerevan being the capital of Armenia,
and "electric" in reference to the alleged motivation of protesters -
rising electric prices.

American-backed "color revolutions" always start out with a seemingly
legitimate motivation, but soon quickly become political in nature,
sidestepping many of the legitimate, practical demands first made,
and focusing almost entirely on "regime change." For the Armenian
agitators leading the "Electric Yerevan," they didn't even make
it that far and spent most of their initial momentum attempting to
convince the world they were not just another US-backed mob.

The Stealth Coup

Nikol Pashinyan and his "Civic Contract" party are transparently
US-backed. So many found it suspicious that he was the most prominent
voice insisting that the "Electric Yerevan" was not political and by
no means a US-backed movement.

Verelq, an Armenian-based news website which inexplicably links to the
US State Department's Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty Armenian site,
would report in their article, "Nikol Pashinyan: Protest actions in
Yerevan are of exclusively social nature," that:

"Even if you look at the ongoing processes through the microscope,
you cannot see any foreign political or domestic political components
in the demonstrations. People do not want electricity to grow in price.

That's all," said Pashinyan. He said electric power is first of all a
product: the Electric Networks sells it and the citizens buy it. "The
protest actions should be considered as protection of consumers'
rights. Politics is nowhere near," he said.

But politics were very near, including politicians like Pashinyan
himself, who made it a point to visit jailed protesters throughout the
failed uprising and even at one point called for the construction of a
"human wall" of prominent Armenian personalities between protesters
and police. US State Department-funded Armenia Now (of the New Times
Journalist Training Center) reported in their article, "Politics in
the Middle: Lawmakers, public figures form "human wall" between police,
protesters," that:

The appeal to create a human wall was made by opposition lawmaker
Nikol Pashinyan late on Tuesday as he urged all former and current
MPs, scholars, show-biz representatives, lawyers, reporters, religious
representatives and other public figures to visit the standoff site
in order to ensure no force is applied against the protesters.

Other obvious ties between the protests, Pashinyan, and US-backed
NGOs have been laid out by geopolitical analyst Andrew Korybko in
his article, "'Electric Yerevan' is Sliding Out of Control."

Despite these links, some have attempted to claim Pashinyan was merely
an opportunist and that his US-backing, and attempts by US NGOs to
manipulate the protests had little to do with the protests themselves.

But nothing could be further from the truth.

Stealth Agitators

America's next generation of "color revolutions" attempt to obfuscate
all possible ties between themselves and their agitators in an attempt
to take back the strategic initiative by maintaining maximum plausible
deniability. But if one knows where to look, they will find that no
amount of obfuscation and subterfuge can cover the links between the
US State Department and its mobs.

The protests were the work of the "No To Plunder" group, led by
lawyers and activists emanating from the US State Department National
Endowment for Democracy (NED), USAID, and Open Society-funded Armenian
Young Lawyers Association (AYLA) and the Helsinki Citizens' Assembly
Vanadzor Office who openly coordinated efforts with "No To Plunder"
to pressure the government on a number of issues.

At least 2 members of AYLA, Ara Gharagyozyan and Arthur Kocharyan,
were identified as core members of "No To Plunder." AYLA's news website
"Iravaban" would list a number of young lawyers and activists attending
one of its internship programs in 2014. Iravaban would also cover the
protests in intricate detail from start to end, as well as report on
activities AYLA and the Helsinki Citizens' Assembly Vanadzor Office
undertook to support the protests.

A number of other pro-protest "news sites" included Hetq, which while
it admits it is funded by convicted financial criminal George Soros'
Open Society Foundation, does not list the US NED as a sponsor -
NED however does list Hetq. There is also Media.am, funded by USAID
as well as the European Endowment for Democracy. All of this adds up
to a large network of locally-based but foreign funded and directed
media outlets that help add the illusion of consensus to disinformation
spread regarding the protests.

Together with US-funded training programs indoctrinating students and
training lawyers and activists in the finer arts of sedition, then
allowing them to go off on their own to lead mobs, the US believes
sufficient plausible deniability has been created to hide ties between
themselves and protest leaders. Similar efforts have been made in both
Hong Kong and more recently in Thailand, where overtly US-backed mobs
have been replaced by students trained, then unleashed by US-proxies.

Despite this careful arrangement, the "Electric Yerevan" protests
never reached critical mass. The reason for this is simple - they
were suspected of being US-backed and the more overt US assets that
would eventually need to move in to lead the protests were unable to,
lest they confirmed that suspicion and undermined the entire effort.

Without these more mainstream assets moving in and providing support,
larger protests are logistically and politically impossible.

How to Shoot Down a Stealth Coup

Russia's emerging media influence on the world stage played an
essential role in unmasking and disrupting America's efforts to
destabilize and overthrow the government in Armenia. The ability to
be one step ahead of the Western-narrative and expose the players
before they even take to the stage, meant that people already knew
what to look for.

When the protesters hit the streets, and as the protests dragged on,
US NGOs and Western media reports supporting the protests confirmed
initial Russian warnings. When clumsy, overt assets like Pashinyan
began getting involved, there was little doubt that electrical prices,
while a real point of contention, were being used as a means to
create a larger, more disruptive, and ultimately dangerous attempt
at foreign-backed regime change.

In the future, the government of Armenia should be careful about
giving such points of contention for foreign interests to use in
the first place - meaning that dedication to economic and social
progress cannot be ignored, even if one is confident they can tamp
down potential protests.

Other nations around the world have a lot to learn from how Russia
disrupted this latest attempt by America to project power beyond
its shores and disrupt the lives of a sovereign people thousands of
miles away. By simply informing people of what is really going on,
following the money, and exposing the players involved, people in
Armenia were able to assess for themselves whether or not to support
the mobs - they chose wisely not to. Were Armenia to adopt similar
laws as Russia's regarding NGOs - mandating that they declare openly
and often their foreign funding - people can better assess whether
or not mobs these NGOs are supporting are truly marching for their
interests, or Wall Street and Washington's.

http://www.globalresearch.ca/russia-shoots-down-us-stealth-coup-tough-times-for-americas-color-revolution-industry/5466185

[Zeytun]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

check this article ( too long to post it here)

http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/07/30/the-bear-in-the-room-armenia-russia-electric-yerevan/

[Mos]

Re: Politics in Hayastan

I doubt any Western country thinks they can push a color revolution in Armenia. Electric Yerevan's end result showed that we have a democratic society and a Government that listens to its people, and is ready to compromise. Our democracy is more flexible and vibrant than many "democracies" in the West.