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  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

    Originally posted by Zeytun View Post
    This guy should be in Jail.
    If this guy goes to prison ( which I think he should ) it will be a test case for everybody in government to go to jail.

    I will leave it to you to decide if it will happen or not.

    PS Our society is at a point where its like a wh.or.e is proud of her profession.
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    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

      Originally posted by londontsi View Post
      The whole video looks and sounds like some corrupt South American politician from a soap opera. Kak ger barb glir.

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      • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

        Originally posted by Azad View Post
        The whole video looks and sounds like some corrupt South American politician from a soap opera. Kak ger barb glir.
        Sounds like?
        Isn't this the guy who was exposed for his offshore accounts and then HHK hushed it?
        He will win for HHK and himself and because of this kind of men and government more people who can't live with it or leave because of it will become "sociopaths".
        There was an interesting inteview with a surbazan ( ill post his name later) in which he characterised correctly. It sounds right in Armenian.
        They are not "անբարոյագան", which means with bad morals.
        They are "ապաբարոյագան", which in Armenian means without morals.
        Simply there is no no morals in this kind of people to feel bad or guilt.
        Last edited by Hakob; 03-26-2017, 07:22 AM.

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        • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

          Originally posted by londontsi View Post


          My definition of a sociopath

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          Who says the aren't all madmen?

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          • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

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            Originally posted by londontsi View Post
            ......Our society is at a point where its like a wh.or.e is proud of her profession.
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            When w.hores get together they become more confident about who they are and their profession.
            Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
            Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
            Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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            • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

              Originally posted by londontsi View Post
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              When w.hores get together they become more confident about who they are and their profession.
              One good thing would have been eliminating those corrupted scumbags instead of taking a police station. Its just sad, good citizens will leave Armenia because of these people.

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              • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                Originally posted by Zeytun View Post
                One good thing would have been eliminating those corrupted scumbags instead of taking a police station. Its just sad, good citizens will leave Armenia because of these people.
                Taking a police station and murdering three police officers while keeping the others hostage, to be precise. There is nothing to justify that no matter what mental gymnastics their admirers like to undertake. Its borderline textbook terrorism.

                Killing off the oligarchs who wreak havoc in the nation and its economy would have been a much better alternative to killing three men whose job is to protect citizens.

                The worst part of it all is that 20,000 Armenians heeded their call and went out to protest in favor of madmen with guns. Shows how desperate folks are. They are willing to find any sake to protest, as long as its against the government. The leadership should take note.
                Last edited by Lori; 03-26-2017, 03:15 PM.

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                • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                  Originally posted by Lori View Post
                  Taking a police station and murdering three police officers while keeping the others hostage, to be precise. There is nothing to justify that no matter what mental gymnastics their admirers like to undertake. Its borderline textbook terrorism.

                  Killing off the oligarchs who wreak havoc in the nation and its economy would have been a much better alternative to killing three men whose job is to protect citizens.

                  The worst part of it all is that 20,000 Armenians heeded their call and went out to protest in favor of madmen with guns. Shows how desperate folks are. They are willing to find any sake to protest, as long as its against the government. The leadership should take note.
                  Yeah I agree with you, and I think they took note hence the arrival of Karen Karapetyan.

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                  • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                    Originally posted by Lori View Post

                    ....The worst part of it all is that 20,000 Armenians heeded their call and went out to protest in favor of madmen with guns. Shows how desperate folks are. They are willing to find any sake to protest, as long as its against the government. The leadership should take note.
                    Your comments lack deep thought to an extent you are contradicting yourself.

                    From your own statements

                    You say an idea or an action that motivates 20,000 people on the streets for days on end.

                    You say how desperate those people are and somehow they found a leadership to follow all be it illegal.

                    You are also indirectly suggesting those demonstrators are also madmen since the average population will not follow madmen whatever the reason.

                    Think again.

                    My perspective is these men were not mad but patriots.

                    The government and the state apparatus is usurped by Serjik and his Mafioso like clique. They are incompetent to govern and they are also corrupt.

                    There is not way to remove them for the reasons I mentioned above.

                    The only alternative was an uprising.

                    AS Burjuin so frequently shows us the capabilities of the police against the population, its not surprising that they or the people did not stand a chance.

                    However very frequently initiators of such ideas fail but the idea stays in the peoples mind.
                    The credibility and more importantly the confidence of the corrupt government is undermined.
                    The initiators are usually are usually sacrificed.

                    Such people are not madmen but patriots and idealists.
                    Last edited by londontsi; 03-26-2017, 10:06 PM.
                    Politics is not about the pursuit of morality nor what's right or wrong
                    Its about self interest at personal and national level often at odds with the above.
                    Great politicians pursue the National interest and small politicians personal interests

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                    • Re: Nagorno-Karabagh: Military Balance Between Armenia & Azerbaijan

                      Originally posted by Zeytun View Post
                      Yeah I agree with you, and I think they took note hence the arrival of Karen Karapetyan.
                      There is one notable factor here.
                      The police, courts, Ministries like education, judiciary, interior, transportation, etc. etc, even environmental are all part of and serving ruling elite (oligarkhs) and have proven time again that they will act against public in defence of rejim.
                      Soviet stile, minus Gulags.

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