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History placed us in a curse of killing each other on the battlefield fighting for others power....even today.

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History placed us in a curse of killing each other on the battlefield fighting for others power....even today.

No!

Liberation of Artsakh proved that history is in our hands only!

[Eddo211]

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You didn't get it
Example:

Armenian Iranian soldier kills an Armanian Iraqi soldier and hears him cry aye mama jan endsi rrepan.

True story.

Most Janissaries were stolen Armenian babies grown to fight Armenians.

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You didn't get it
Example:

Armenian Iranian soldier kills an Armanian Iraqi soldier and hears him cry aye mama jan endsi rrepan.

True story.

Most Janissaries were stolen Armenian babies grown to fight Armenians.

True Story:

Those who stolen Lion babies for any purpose, ended up in Lion's stomach!

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Historic Battles: Battle of Avarayr



Battle of Avarayr is one of the popular battle in Armenian history because it gave Armenian people freedom to practice Christianity. Battle of Avarayr was fought on 26 May 451 AD on the Avarayr Plain in Vaspurakan, between Armenian Army led by Vardan Mamikonian and Sassanid Persia.











Date: 26 May 451
Location: Avarayr Plain,
Result: Pyrrhic Sassanid military victory


Belligerents:
Sassanid Empire
Armenian "loyalists"

Vs

Christian Armenian rebels


Commanders and leaders:
Mushkin Niusalavurd
Mihr Narseh
Izad Gushnasp
Ashtat

Vs

Vardan Mamikonian †
Ghevond Vanandetsi



Strength:
80,000 Sassanids
Unknown number-Elephants
60,000-20,000 Armenian "loyalists"

Vs

66,000 Armenian rebels



Casualties and losses:
Persian Army-Unknown

Armenian Army-Heavy



https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Avarayr
The Kingdom of Armenia under the Arsacid dynasty of Armenia was the first nation to officially convert to Christianity, in 301 AD under Tiridates III. In 428, Armenian nobles petitioned Bahram V to depose Artaxias IV (Artashir IV). As a result, the country became a Sassanid dependency with a Sassanid governor. The Armenian nobles initially welcomed Persian rule, provided they were allowed to practice Christianity; but Yazdegerd II, concerned that the Armenian Church was hierarchically dependent on the Latin- and Greek-speaking, Orthodox Christian Church (aligned with Rome and Constantinople rather than the Aramaic-speaking, Persian-backed Nestorian Church) tried to compel the Armenian Church to abandon Rome and Byzantium in favor of the Nestorians or simply convert to Zoroastrianism. He summoned the leading Armenian nobles to Ctesiphon, and pressured them into cutting their ties with the Orthodox Church as he had intended. Yazdegerd II himself was a Zoroastrian rather than a Christian, and his concern was not enforcing a Nestorian orthodoxy but securing political loyalty.
According to Armenian tradition, attempts at demolishing churches and building fire-temples were made and a number of Zoroastrian magi were sent, with Persian military backing, to replace Armenian clergy and suppress Christianity.

The 66,000-strong Armenian army took Holy Communion before the battle. The army was a popular uprising, rather than a professional force, but the Armenian nobility who led it and their respective retinues were accomplished soldiers, many of them veterans of the Sassanid dynasty's wars with Rome and the nomads of Central Asia. The Armenians were allowed to maintain a core of their national army led by a supreme commander (sparapet) who was traditionally of the Mamikonian noble family. The Armenian cavalry was, at the time, practically an elite force greatly appreciated as a tactical ally by both Persia and Byzantium. In this particular case, both officers and men were additionally motivated by a desire to save their religion and their way of life. The Persian army, said to be three times larger, included war elephants and the famous Savārān, or New Immortal, cavalry. Several Armenian noblemen with weaker Christian sympathies, led by Vasak Siuni, went over to the Persians before the battle, and fought on their side; in the battle, Vardan won initial successes, but was eventually slain along with eight of his top officers.

Armenian resistance continued in the decades following the battle, led by Vardan's successor and nephew, Vahan Mamikonian. In 484 AD, Sahag Bedros I signed the Nvarsak Treaty, which guaranteed religious freedom to the Christian Armenians and granted a general amnesty with permission to construct new churches. Thus, the Armenians see the Battle of Avarayr as a moral victory; 26 May is considered to be a holy day by Armenians, and is one of the most important national and religious days in Armenia.






Historical Lesson:


Over 60,000-20,000 Armenian "loyalists" also known as (Vassals) fought under Persian side to have power and become Persia's Vassal kings.







Up-Coming: Battle of Varnakert

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Battle of Avarayr proved that Armenian people followed to their Sparapet until the end, just like in Artsakh war People followed to Sparapet Vazgen Manukyan, but the greatest historical lessons are those oligarchs that were against will of Armenian people.

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Historic Battles: Battle of Varnakert







Date: 702
Location: Varnakert
Result: Armenian victory


Belligerents:
Umayyad Caliphate

Vs

Smbat Bagratuni of Armenia




In the Battle of Varnakert (702) Smbat Bagratuni defeated the 8,000-strong Umayyad army from the garrison in Nakhichevan. Smbat, with the aid of Byzantine Empire, managed to re-conquer the majority of Armenia and drive the Arabs out of the country. Despite this success, the Umayyad generals Muhammad ibn Marwan and Maslamah ibn Abd al-Malik soon restored Armenia to subject status, and secured Muslim control by organizing a large-scale massacre of the princely families (nakharar) within the cathedral of Nakhchivan in 705.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Varnakert



Up-Coming: Battle of Bagrevand (775)

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Historic Battles: Battle of Bagrevand (775)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Bagrevand



Unlike in Armenian–Persian battle in Bagrevand 371 ad where Armenia defeated the Sassanid Empire, This time Armenia deals with even larger empire the Abbasid empire.


Date: 25 April 775
Location: Bagrevand
Result: Decisive Abbasid victory


Belligerents:
Armenian princes
Abbasid Caliphate

Commanders and leaders:
Smbat VII Bagratuni †
Mushegh VI Mamikonian †
Vs
Amir ibn Isma'il



The Battle of Bagrevand was fought on 25 April 775, in the plains of Bagrevand, between the forces of the Armenian princes who had rebelled against the Abbasid Caliphate and the caliphal army. The battle resulted in a crushing Abbasid victory, with the death of the main Armenian leaders. The Mamikonian family's power in particular was almost extinguished. The battle signalled the beginning of a large-scale Armenian migration into the Byzantine Empire.


Following the establishment of the Abbasid Caliphate, Caliph al-Mansur (reigned 754–775) abolished the subsidies paid to the various Armenian princes (nakharar) and in addition imposed heavy tax duties on them. Coupled with instances of religious persecution against the majority Christian Armenian population, these measures prompted the outbreak of a major anti-Abbasid revolt in 774. The revolt was led by Artavazd Mamikonian, but gathered the direct or tacit support of most nakharar families, most notably the hitherto pro-Arab Bagratuni, while the Artsruni and Siwni families remained neutral. The rebellion spread through Armenia, including attacks against Arab tax-collectors, and the local Arab governor, al-Hasan ibn Qahtaba, was unable to contain it. The Caliph sent 30,000 Khurasanis under Amir ibn Isma'il into the province, and at the Battle of Bagrevand on 25 April 775, the nakharar suffered a decisive defeat, losing their leaders, Smbat VII Bagratuni and Mushegh VI Mamikonian. After the battle, the revolt was brutally suppressed by the Abbasids.






Up-Coming: The Battle of Karasounk (863)

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Historic Battles: Battle of Karasounk (863)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Karasounk





The Battle of Karasounk, also known as the Forty, took place in 863 when some Muslim emirs attacked Armenia, defended by Prince Ashot Bagratouni with, according to reports, 40,000 men. The Armenians defeated the 80,000 Muslims decisively on the shores of the Araxes.



Date: 863
Location: Araxes
Result: Decisive Armenian victory


Belligerents:
Muslim Emirs
Vs
Armenia

Commanders and leaders:
Prince Ashot


Strength:
Muslim Emirs
80,000

Armenia
40,000




Up-Coming: Battle of Sevan 924

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Historic Battles: Battle of Sevan








Armenian Army of 250 soldiers led by Ashot II of Armenia against 5000 Sajids at a battle of Sevan 924 Ad.







https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Sevan
The Battle of Sevan was a turning point in the history of a seven-year war. After the battle, Armenian troops under the command of Ashot cleared the central and northern region of the country from foreign invaders.


Date: 924
Location: North-West shore near Lake Sevan, Armenia
Result: Armenian victory



Belligerents:
Kingdom of Armenia
Vs
Sajids



Commanders and leaders:
Armenian Army
Ashot II

Sajids
Beshear


Strength:
Armenian Army
250

Sajids
5,000



Casualties and losses:
Armenian Army
50

Sajids
2,000




In the year 924, the armies of Yusuf Beshir entered Armenia, hoping to take advantage of the temporary conflicts of the Armenian king and his subjects, near Lake Sevan. He then besieged Ashot II. Hoping to overwhelm them by the superiority of their forces, Beshir had started arrangements for the surrender of the Armenians. The Armenians made a formal agreement, but by the next day in the morning, Ashot II had formed 70 of their best archers and headed towards Beshir,s camps, with seven archers for each boat. Enemy soldiers, assuming quick victory, had gathered around on the shore and the Armenian archers had gave out heavy fire into the enemy forces, The Arab army took to flight, and were defeated.


Yusuf, who had received information that Ashot had retired on the island of Sevan, then sent Nusir, a chief to capture Ashot the king. Nusir made it to Duin, where he captured several people. Later Nusir was succeed by Beshir, a chief who took his place. Beshir then sent 1,000 of his men to attack the island and capture the king.Beshir was met by George the Marzbedunian. With his little army, they attacked Beshir's army, and killed the enemy in great numbers, which had caused them to flee. Beshir did not expect this defeat. He then gathered more troops and went after George the Marzbedunian. He had failed to capture him. Beshir approached Lake Sevan. Ashot prepared ten boats, where he placed archers with great skills with the bow. It was said[by whom?] for each arrow was with such precision that it never missed killing or wounding the target. Bushir's army ultimately fled in defeat.







Up-Comimg: Battle of Ani