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  • #261
    Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

    ISIS pulls out of Jarablus; Kurdish militias accuse US of abandoning them
    DEBKA
    August 25, 2016,

    DEBKAfile military and intelligence sources: More than a day after Turkey launched its invasion of northern Syria aimed at capturing the city of Jarablus from ISIS, it appears that the terrorist organization has left the city without a fight. On Thursday, pro-Turkish Syrian militias, in cooperation with the Turkish military, took control of most of Jarablus as well as the main roads to and from the city from the east, west and south.

    Syria's Foreign Ministry issued a statement the previous day condemning the invasion and calling it a violation of the country's sovereignty, but DEBKAfile's intelligence sources report that Turkey's move was coordinated in advance with Syrian President Bashar Assad. Meanwhile, US Vice President Joe Biden said Wednesday during a joint press conference with Turkish Prime Minister Binali Yildirim in Ankara that Syrian Kurdish forces will lose US support if they don't retreat to the east bank of the Euphrates River.

    DEBKAfile's intelligence sources report Biden's statement shows that the US has accepted all of Turkish President Tayyip Erdogan's terms regarding the Kurds and exposed them to a Turkish military attack if they fail to withdraw. The Kurdish militias operating in northern Syria accuse Washington of abandoning them by cooperating with Turkey's plan that they say is aimed at blocking Kurdish territorial continuity rather than fighting ISIS. The Kurds have announced that they will fight the Turkish invasion.

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    • #262
      Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

      Originally posted by Vrej1915 View Post
      ISIS pulls out of Jarablus; Kurdish militias accuse US of abandoning them
      Something is not adding up. The Arabs/kurds/Iran/Hizbollah stands makes sense. The Russian/turkish/American does not make any sense. Specially the Russian stand. Something is cooking and I hope it is turkey.

      The Russians took full control of the situation by building formidable bases with sophisticated radars with lots of progress. Out of the blue they handed the torch to the Americans that used it for propaganda and now the turks are in the spotlight. We are talking world superpowers and it seams they are all dinking around with the slipper boys in the desert.
      Last edited by Azad; 08-25-2016, 09:12 PM.

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      • #263
        Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

        Turkey PKK conflict: Eight police killed in Cizre bomb
        BBC

        A large car bomb has hit a riot police headquarters in Cizre, south-east Turkey, killing eight policemen and injuring 70.
        The huge explosion at 07:00 (04:00 GMT) targeted a checkpoint, and left the nearby HQ in ruins.
        It is unclear who carried out the attack, but Turkish media blamed the banned Kurdistan Workers Party, PKK.
        Cizre has been the subject of several curfews in the past few months by Turkish authorities fighting the PKK.
        The UN and human rights organisations have demanded an investigation into allegations that more than 100 people were burned to death while sheltering in basements in Cizre - a poor town close to the Syrian border.

        The Turkish government has rejected allegations that it targeted civilians.
        A string of PKK attacks have targeted Turkish security forces since a two-year ceasefire collapsed in July 2015.
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        Media captionJeremy Bowen: 'Dark questions' after Cizre allegations that more than 100 civilians were killed
        Since then, military operations in the south-east and retaliatory attacks by the PKK have left hundreds of people dead.
        Profile: Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK)

        Turkey's PKK conflict shows no sign of abating, says the BBC's Mark Lowen, and the government has ruled out any negotiations until the group completely disarms.
        The latest violence comes as the army reels from a huge purge following a coup attempt in July.
        As well as fighting the PKK, Turkey is battling so-called Islamic State, whose militants have carried out a series of bloody attacks over the past year.
        The PKK, which is banned in Turkey, launched its insurgency in 1984, alleging widespread abuse and discrimination against Kurds by Turkish authorities.

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        • #264
          Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

          Քուրդ զինյալները 9 թուրք ոստիկանի են սպանել (Ֆոտո)
          http://news.am/arm/news/343391.html
          Հարձակումից հետո ոստիկանության շենքը փլատակների է վերածվել․․․


          Քուրդ զինյալները 9 թուրք ոստիկանի են սպանել (Ֆոտո)
          26.08.2016

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          • #265
            Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

            Originally posted by Azad View Post
            Something is not adding up. The Arabs/kurds/Iran/Hizbollah stands makes sense. The Russian/turkish/American does not make any sense. Specially the Russian stand. Something is cooking and I hope it is turkey.

            The Russians took full control of the situation by building formidable bases with sophisticated radars with lots of progress. Out of the blue they handed the torch to the Americans that used it for propaganda and now the turks are in the spotlight. We are talking world superpowers and it seams they are all dinking around with the slipper boys in the desert.
            Things will add up once whatever has been agreed to has been fully implemented. This usually means the bigger players making gains at the expense of the smaller ones.
            Hayastan or Bust.

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            • #266
              Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

              Photos: Kurdish PKK militants target a Turkish police HQ with a massive truck bomb

              http://echelon-defense.com/2016/08/26/photos-kurdish-pkk-militants-target-a-turkish-police-hq-with-a-massive-truck-bomb/

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              • #267
                Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

                Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                Things will add up once whatever has been agreed to has been fully implemented. This usually means the bigger players making gains at the expense of the smaller ones.
                Agree! Except the "implemented" part is a perpetual one in that region.

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                • #268
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                  • #269
                    Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

                    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
                    Things will add up once whatever has been agreed to has been fully implemented. This usually means the bigger players making gains at the expense of the smaller ones.
                    Not sure if this is true or speculative


                    "US to give Russia leadership role in Karabakh conflict, in exchange for Syria?

                    Maria Zakharova, official representative of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, responded with sarcasm to US Secretary of State John Kerry’s recent statement with respect to resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

                    “That the US concede the full leadership role to Russia in any matter? I do not believe,” noted Zakharova. “That will be a breakthrough.”

                    She stated this commenting on the information that during his recent visit to Moscow, Kerry proposed to Russia that it transfer the leadership role in settlement of the Karabakh conflict, in exchange for concessions regarding Syria."

                    US to give Russia leadership role in Karabakh conflict, in exchange for Syria?
                    http://news.am/eng/news/343358.html
                    Official representative of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs does not believe in this…

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                    • #270
                      Re: Kurdish-Turkish Clashes

                      Originally posted by Azad View Post
                      Not sure if this is true or speculative


                      "US to give Russia leadership role in Karabakh conflict, in exchange for Syria?

                      Maria Zakharova, official representative of the Russian Ministry of Foreign Affairs, responded with sarcasm to US Secretary of State John Kerry’s recent statement with respect to resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

                      “That the US concede the full leadership role to Russia in any matter? I do not believe,” noted Zakharova. “That will be a breakthrough.”

                      She stated this commenting on the information that during his recent visit to Moscow, Kerry proposed to Russia that it transfer the leadership role in settlement of the Karabakh conflict, in exchange for concessions regarding Syria."

                      http://news.am/eng/news/343358.html
                      It does not seem like a fair trade to me. The Karabakh conflict is already is already firmly under Russia's control. Why would Russia agree to such a deal where it gives up something yet gains nothing..I would expect a deal involving Ukraine to make a lot more sense.
                      Hayastan or Bust.

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