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    Armenian Studies

    Every wednesday, I attend courses on "armenian studies" (hayakidagan or hayagitakan) at AGBU after school. The man in charge has been a teacher in many many armenian communities, has written a few books, and is a member of the Union of Armenian Writers (Hayastani groghneri miootyoon).

    Yesterday, he started ranting about the Armenian Studies programs that are given in the States, and that are mainly funded by money from armenian centers such as AGBU and Homentmen (I would think). He said that history is being distorted at our expense, and at the US's and Turkey's gain. One example is how a certain Professor Thompson (who has prepared quite a few generations of "hayakeds", translated Khorenatsi's Hayots Badmootyoon (Armenian History). He has modified some parts, and completely avoided others.

    There are many armenian examples too. Such as Ronald Suny, who is preparing a thesis claiming that Armenians are not native of Armenia, or another armenian man whose name I forget, who during the height of the Artsakh war, went around every major armenian community, claiming that Armenians had no historical rights on Artsakh. Just to prove how well he had prepared his research, he claimed that an armenian prince/politician, Israel Ori, who played a very active role in trying to liberate Artsakh from the Persian Empire (in the 18th or 19 century I believe), was not truly Armenian, because of his name. Meanwhile, Israel Ori is a fake name, based on the french sentence that show the man's ambitions, "Il sera roi", meaning he will be king. This is just an example to show how unfounded these researches are, and how they play a devastating role on us, because not only do foreginers read this as their only source of information, Armenian-reading Armenians don't bother reading it, and are not aware of the type of information going around, and non-armenian reading Armenians use this as their sole source of info (yet another reason why knowing the language is important).

    Opinions? (anon, I'm expecting one from you)
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    Interesting topic baron, very nice.
    I havent heard about those you have mentioned, but I hope thats not the case. The only historian that I've met is Hilmar Kaiser, and he writes about our Genocide, he's a very passionate man, but he writes everything you would expect, like our side I guess you can say.
    About the schools, i know most of the Armenian programs were started by one organization or another in Los Angeles, and then picked up by the school because of the demand from the student body as a whole.

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      I wholeheartedly agree.

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        Indeed, I am in the second part of my Armenian history, from after the Mongol invasions to the present times. I took the ancient history last quarter. I'm taking it with Richard Hovannisian here in UCLA, he seems to be on top of things although at times I tend to find disagreements with him.

        History, you see, is a complicated thing, and 90% of what historians do are assumptions. Of course the argument can be made that "no one" is native to "any region" since everyone is part of the migrations that took place prior to antiquity, as well as the argument that Armenians are indeed native to that region, and evidence can be brought up for both really. I tend to be of the agreement with the latter, but then again I take a totally different view on Armenians throughout the centuries.

        Israel Ori indeed is a pseudonym since the guy had monarchial ambitions and wanted help from Prussia and Russia to gain independence and establish himself as king. From what I read by Ronald Suny, he seems to be of the Marxist persuasion since I find alot of terms such as "bourgeois" being used by him, and focus on classes. From that it would be obvious of where he is leaning.
        Achkerov kute.

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          Originally posted by Anonymouse From what I read by Ronald Suny, he seems to be of the Marxist persuasion since I find alot of terms such as "bourgeois" being used by him, and focus on classes. From that it would be obvious of where he is leaning.
          You are a xxxxing idiot, the BBC uses the term bourgeoise, does that mean the BBC (govt funded, filtered station) is marxist, grow up you arsebandit

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            Uh oh, I am to guess I ticked off the resident Marxist. I better where my deluxe foruming vest next time.
            Achkerov kute.

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