Will Turks be a member of the European Union?

[winoman]

Anomaly - to say you are nuetral on this is to say you have willing put your head in the sand (at best) - or that you are a liar...and obvioulsy so - recommending Mango and decrying the politisizing of the issue at the same time - LOL.

There is no serious historical debate concerning (if it was a ) Genocide. There is just mounds and mounds and mounds of evidence. To say "let the historians decide" is quite disengenuous. Hello...

And I also find it interesting that you seemingly choose to ignore the manner in which Turkey has attempted to erase any memory of Armenians in Anatolia. Just why is this that they seemingly are so insecure? Might it be that they feel a bit guilty for what was done. I mean obviously they did Armenains no great favors - at the very least - and even the worst Turkish apologists admit that at least hundreds of thousands of Armenains were brutally killed and that Armenians - a people and culture with great historical significance and presence in Anatiolia - are no longer there - that the timeline basically ends in 1915. Something to be proud of fer sure....

[winoman]

Shasha - I'm sure that you don't relise this - but its people like you (who think like you) who are responsible for the Genocide - and all genocides...

And your pride in "race" ...sounds an awful lot like Enver and Talat and others of their ilk to me.

I hope that as/when you oneday grow up you will understand the great deficiencies of your thinking and just how ugly you were.

[shasa]

Whether it sounds ugly or not doesn't change the fact that it is true what I said.
I proud of my race, we are the first nation that accept Christianity on the world, we are one of the rare nations on the world that have strong links to the ancient world.
To proud of his/her identity doen't make someone racist. And I don't support to make genocide upon turks, what I say is that half of the Anatolia is historically ours and we have a right to claim her.
And honestly give me an answer: don't you think that nations I counted above are NOT the part of European culture? What is your opinion about this? If you agree with me stop labelling me with something that I am not.

[Armenian]

I say, I say, whats wit all da xxxxxs and trailer-trash around hear... dang!

[Armenian]

Shasha - I'm sure that you don't relise this - but its people like you (who think like you) who are responsible for the Genocide - and all genocides...

And its pathetic ones like you who are responsible for voluntarily becoming a victim of genocide

[shasa]

Then you are a fool for thinking so. Historical facts are universal, Political ones are often fabricated to suit needs.

And for your information, if those cultures aren't European, neither is Armenian culture.

Then you are a fool for thinking so, because Armenians are historically, culturally and genetically European.

[winoman]

To proud of his/her identity doen't make someone racist.

Ok - I can agree with this. But when you start to diss others - purely based on their race/ethnicity or what have you...

And I don't support to make genocide upon turks, what I say is that half of the Anatolia is historically ours and we have a right to claim her.

Yes and the blood fued continues. There are many peoples who might lay claim to lands based on similar...and while I do have sympathy for this claim in our case - based on how our lands were (criminaly) taken from us and the suffering caused etc...in the end it is just land. You are familiar with the Sayroyan quote I'm sure...well Armenians are making it wherever they end up. And we are still a people with strong values and strong families. And while it would be nice to again call Ararat, Lake Van and all of our opther places again home...its just not ever going to happen. It is entirely impractical. Even if possible - it would pretty much only be so if we were to commit a Genocide against the people already there. So in effect you are advicating such if you support forcably taking back lands. And in the end I question how many Armenains would move back. A few certainly...but what would they do? Become sheep herders again? Where is the incentive when most of us are living well in the west? Perhaps when you have a family of your own to care about you will understand these issues better...

And honestly give me an answer: don't you think that nations I counted above are NOT the part of European culture? What is your opinion about this? If you agree with me stop labelling me with something that I am not.

Question: What part of Armenia is (or ever was) in Europe? What is European culture? etc etc Now I understand how Armenia's heritage is more ingrained with - for instance- ancient Greece, Rome, Byzantine Emprie etc etc and that we are Orthodox Christian and not Muslim etc..and that one can perhaps establish a linkage based on this and related...however Armenia was never a European nation...and I really find this need by some to make this connection and to identify with being white/European or what have you an indication of a real inferiority complex as well as indication of a racial/racist approach that I find, well distasteful.

[winoman]

And its pathetic ones like you who are responsible for voluntarily becoming a victim of genocide

Proove it. Perhaps it was those like you (well I'm ascribing more courage and resolve then you likely have) - but basically idealistic, nationalistic, ignorant fools like you - who - through their own violence and through their own (premature and of certain negative outcome) actions - essentially goaded the Turks into commiting Genocide against the Armenians. I'm not claiming that this is so - as the issue is more complicated - obviously - but don't go ascribing blame to me - with no foundation. On the other hand - it is clearly people like you and shasa - who value other humans as something lesser then yourselves - who have no understanding of human life - and care - who see things in only black & white, us and them - who are responsible for atrocities and crimes against humanity...

[Armenian]

Perhaps it was those like you (well I'm ascribing more courage and resolve then you likely have) - but basically idealistic, nationalistic, ignorant fools like you - who - through their own violence and through their own (premature and of certain negative outcome) actions - essentially goaded the Turks into commiting Genocide against the Armenians.

Said in true fashion of a Turkic xxxxx - bravo!!!

You are proudly showing your vile Turk loving ideology. Not too long ago, vermin like you were shot in the head for such anti-Armenian and criminal statements.

Be gald you can hide behide the computer.

[anomaly]

You couldn't shoot a pig in the head even if you owned a farm full of them. You self-grandeurizing, deceitful, internet geek.

Don't speak one more word of hiding behind a computer until you, "Armenian" post proof that you have actualyy done SOMETHING, ANYTHING concerning the moronic things you claim.

Because I sincerely believe you are a hopeless sociopath, all talk no action.