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    Among the multitude of armed formations, which have sprang up
    in the post-Soviet sphere, the Defense Army of Karabakh turned
    out to be one of the most battle worthy.

    Itogi.ru

    No. 42(322)
    October 26, 2002
    Transcaucasia / Armies of the World

    Today people are starting to forget about Nagorno-Karabakh. But
    this small and strongly crisscrossed land, lost in the Caucasian
    heights, which by population size is second to any Moscow region
    (according to the latest information the population of NKR is
    only 145,128), played a colossal role in recent history. It was
    exactly here that the physical deterioration of the last world
    empire started. It was also here that the first war developed
    in the post-Soviet sphere, which put under the doubt the very
    idea of the existence of such a community of people as the Soviet
    People. After begetting a hurricane, Artsakh - the historical name
    of Nagorno-Karabakh - was destined to vanish from the political
    map of the world: the Azeri side had a massive military and
    economic superiority. But thanks to its army, Nagorno-Karabakh
    not only survived, but also enlarged its own borders...

    While getting ready to go to Karabakh, it was not our goal to
    identify who is to blame in conflict, which flickers to this
    day. We were interested exclusively in "technical" issues: how
    was it formed and according to what principles does the army of
    the state function, which instead of official borders has front
    lines and is not accepted de-jure anywhere.

    More Than Guerrillas

    There is no need to explain to the participants of enforcement
    of a "constructive order in Soviet Transcaucasia" who are the
    fedayees. Armed with anything they could get their hands on and
    unclear who they were controlled by, the bearded guerrillas
    (partisans) stood against a no less exotic Azeri fighting
    force. In the beginning stages, military weapons were a big rarity
    here and the character of the military actions was very similar to
    gang fighting on a city level using common makeshift weapons. In
    those times Soviet generals didn't hide their contempt towards
    this "wild war" and its participants. Up to the point when blood
    still wasn't being shed in abundance and humor on military themes
    wasn't too dark, in many headquarters spread throughout
    "smoldering" Caucasus, the Karabakh conflict was referred to as
    the battle between shepherds and cattle breeders.

    The irony was present even when the fighting sides transferred
    into tanks and planes, when instead of gradoboykas (Translator's
    note: guns used for agricultural purposes) they started using
    frontline artillery - as the military warehouses and equipment
    in the region turned out to be more than sufficient. True, in
    Moscow they still hoped that these "peoples' military
    specialists" will never be able to adapt the modern military
    hardware which they inherited after the division of Soviet
    Union. But the hopes were dispersed when the so-called Karabakh
    War, which in Artsakh is considered Patriotic, went according
    to all rules of military art...

    They don't wear beards in the NKR Army any more. It is not
    outlawed, but it is also not encouraged. The outward appearance
    is clean cut - the camouflage is sawn on the local fabric from
    Greek material, thus strikingly resembling NATO. And if we put a
    Russian soldier next to one from Karabakh, the visual comparison,
    unfortunately, won't be in our favor. At the least, we didn't
    see a single soldier with a pitiful appearance, the likes of
    which are abundant even in Moscow. People wear the uniform with
    dignity here, even women and instructors of military-sporting
    schools: 70 percent of the population directly or indirectly
    are considered potential "military assets".

    Big Little Army

    The military budget of NKR is an impressive 20 percent of
    GDP. These kinds of spending percentages are not permissive,
    neither in the United States nor Russia. But to make up for
    it, in the past ten years, gone like a moment, they created
    here a well functioning military structure: infantry, armored,
    rocket-artillery forces, air defense forces, rear logistical
    services and all the necessary military services including,
    a reconnaissance battalion and a special forces unit formed on
    the base of national guard...

    In reality, here they know not only the appropriate place for
    a joke, but also the appropriate time. They warned us still
    in Yerevan that Karabakh Armenians are not only the most kind
    hearted but also the most warlike: from the four famous Soviet
    Armenian marshals, three were from Karabakh. People here, as is
    appropriate for the highlanders, are serious with a no-nonsense
    character. If the decision is taken that everybody must go through
    military service, everybody does it, regardless of the position
    of the parents, two years from start to finish.

    Ohanian's Line

    We should assume that the Defense Minister of NKR doesn't
    contradict his commander-in-chief all the time. But in any case,
    even for the president it is hard to pressure his military
    minister so easily. The point is that General-Lieutenant Seyran
    Ohanian is not simply a bureaucrat in uniform, but one of the
    thirteen national heroes, whom people respect no less than
    general director of AVPK "Sukhoy" (Sukhoy, famous Russian fighter
    and attack plane design bureau) Michail Pogosian, who also has
    Karabakhi roots.

    Seyran Ohanian has marched from cadet to battalion commander in
    the Soviet Army. He served in the military group in Germany,
    Kirovabad, then in 336th Stepanakert Mechanized Infantry
    Regiment. He says that when the time came to make a choice, he
    went to defend his smaller homeland, as he would probably do if
    he had to, the socialist Fatherland. He was in the command of a
    regiment, afterwards, during the heaviest fighting, he commanded
    the Mardakert front. He didn't leave the battlefield even when he
    was badly wounded and lost a leg. But in 6 months, he was back
    fighting and after signing of the ceasefire, he kept himself
    busy by building military fortifications. He spent his days and
    nights in the field, and worked at such a pace, that even people
    with two legs couldn't keep up with him. It was with his active
    participation that the military training center, of which even
    the elite Moscow facilities can be jealous, was built from zero.

    They almost worship their commander in AOK. For example, the
    massive system of defensive fortifications, which today similar
    to Maginot Line encircles the entire borders of Karabakh, is
    unofficially called Ohanian's Line. During the war, they say,
    Azeris were offering one million dollars for the head of the
    commander of Mardakert front.

    Soviet School

    At the time of our visit, on General Ohanian's work desk there
    was a book by Marshal Shtemenko, "General Headquarters in
    War Years". "We take all that is positive from the experience
    of the Soviet Army and are actively filtering out all that is
    negative." By the way, the 200 thousand strong army of Azerbaijan,
    as is known, is energetically reorganizing according to the
    Turkish style. Even their military step is Turkish nowadays.

    Today, Soviet style (one regiment - one defense region) regiments
    of AOK are countered by two Azeri corps, each with five-six
    brigades. Brigades are formed by six to eight battalions. But
    if opportunity comes, the breakthrough attack will be carried
    out by the elite units, including the Marines, which are now in
    the rear and are carrying out intense military training under the
    direction of Turkish instructors - who are not the worst military
    specialists in the world. That is why the "euphoria of victory",
    ruling now in Stepanakert, seriously concerns Karabakh command.

    Today Azerbaijan's army is several-fold larger in number, than
    the armed forces of Armenia and NKR together. But in Karabakh,
    they think that these forces are not sufficient to break through
    the Ohanian's Line so easily. Besides, here they prepare for
    the possibility of war in real terms: exactly once a week, no
    matter what, soldiers and officers of Artsakh conduct live-fire
    training exercises in the field. They are also replenishing their
    supplies of armaments, even though in the 'pyramids' (armories)
    there are still war-time machine guns. But the main problem is
    the officer cadres.

    From three thousand officers of AOK only forty have served in
    the Soviet Army. Three hundred more went through training in
    Yerevan military academy and in Russian establishments of higher
    learning. Recently Boris Davidov, commander of 4th regiment,
    graduated with honors from All-Military Academy in Moscow. In
    the peaceful past Davidov was the graduate of Timiriazevsk
    Academy. Behind the shoulders of the Deputy Defense Minister
    lieutenant-colonel Aleksan Aleksanian are the Polytechnic
    Institute and the academic courses "Vistrel" (Shot). Students
    from Azerbaijan don't neglect Russian military academies either,
    but as Moscow instructors communicated to "Itogi", officers from
    Karabakh are working harder than all the others.

    In Soviet times there was an axiom: if three Armenians served in
    a subdivision at the same time, it meant a guaranteed disorder
    and brothel in the whole stationed division, if there were more
    Armenians - an utter lawlessness would ensue. In simple terms, it
    was thought that it would be impossible to create a regular army
    purely "comprised of Armenians", because it was thought, these
    people were spoiled by the warm climate and abundance of food and
    wealth. For AOK this axiom turned out to be false. At one time,
    Alexander Lebed (famous Russian General and elected governor of
    Krasnoyarsk, who brokered ceasefire in the first Chechen War),
    who visited Karabakh after the war, acknowledged, that the
    battle readiness of AOK is higher than the Russian Army, and
    there is more order. It was not hard to compare the two, because
    the military life and methods of training are almost identical.

    Flying Russian Style

    During the war Karabakhis shot down several dozen Azeri planes and
    helicopters and unfortunately, one of their own MiGs. Following
    that, they themselves would joke bitterly: "After that military
    loss the Armenian Air Force was reduced exactly by a half". In the
    beginning of the war the Armenian military aviation was comprised
    only of two planes. By the way, that unfortunate pilot remained
    alive. He parachuted and landed on the town square where he was
    given a good beating until the anxious defenders of Stepanakert
    figured out what had happened. Now, as the unfaltering sense of
    humor of the Armenian Radio (a line of famous jokes in Soviet
    Union) confirms, during every flight over the capital of NKR, he
    sends advance notification to the Air Defense Forces of Karabakh,
    which are part of Armenia's Air Defense Forces, and thus part
    of CIS'.

    It is not a secret that the planes of Azeri Air Force were
    manned mainly by Russian and Ukrainian crews, who were flying
    for money of course. Some of them were captured. Participants
    of the Karabakh War say that they could visually tell when the
    planes were flown by Russians: the bombs were released not on
    populated areas but in the mountains. One of them even landed
    his plane on the Armenian side. He didn't become national hero
    of course, but he got some applause for making some money and
    in the process not harming fellow Christians...

    On the Border Clouds Are Menacing...

    "We have won only due to our high spirit!" - says General
    Ohanian. In the beginning the defense detachments of Karabakh had
    no military experience, no weapons - the main military warehouses
    were on the Azeri side, furthermore just before their pullout,
    the Soviet Interior Troops carried out a thorough combing of
    Karabakh. That is why they were fighting practically with bare
    hands and trophies, until they secured supplies from Russia
    (remember the scandalous and criminal cases about arms shipments
    of Pavel Grachev's times). Monte Melkonian, (Armenian born in
    Lebanon and Harvard graduate) the legendary in Karabakh commander
    of 2nd regiment, used to make his subordinates account for
    destroying enemy tanks instead of capturing them intact.

    Experience came later. And now, the opponents of the NKR Defense
    Minister are arguing that the military training should be built
    on the basis of their own military traditions. Seyran Ohanian
    prefers a compromise: own military experience plus classic Soviet
    military tactic. According to his opinion, the next war will be
    different - more professional. Here is how they picture the future
    battles in Stepanakert. Before, they thought that with the start
    of the hostilities the first line of trenches will be taken by
    the experienced reservists and the new recruits will take the
    second line of defense. The thinking was that the "old timers"
    will not dare to retreat. General Ohanian thinks differently:
    in order to facilitate the merging of experience and training,
    reservists and new recruits should be mixed in one unit...

    According to Karabakh reconnaissance, there were intense ground
    works on the other side of the frontlines at night and in the
    morning Azeri positions became closer. In some areas two opposing
    armies are separated only by fifty meters. A tank can cover
    that distance in one swing. But colonel Davidov is sure that his
    subordinates will hold: "You can't run from a submarine!" Really,
    Karabakhis have nowhere to retreat.

    Source: http://www.itogi.ru/paper2002.nsf/A...21_13_2330.html

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      Re: The Army of Arsakh

      Watch this wonderful video:

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      • #4
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        Meh.

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        • #5
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          I wanna join.

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          • #6
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            Yeah. Go join.

            We need less armenoid morons around.

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              skhara, mersi clipi hamar.
              achkers lcvecin.

              I'd be interested to find out how bad "dedovshina" is in Arcakh army? Some of it is normal but too much is a strain on the army's unity.
              Last edited by karoaper; 03-12-2006, 04:55 AM.

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                They do have very strict discipline. Obviously they work to break down the new recruits but they don't tolerate extreme hazing. Remember, these want to build on the positives of the Soviet Army and weed out all the negatives.

                I would imagine that hazing is not anymore than the armed forces of most western countries. Certainly not to the degree it happens in Russia's army. Have you heard about the recent incident in Russia where a kid was beaten so bad, they had to amputate with whole lower body including the private parts? By the sound of that, the kid was better off dead. Those bastards who did it, should have been terminated on the spot.

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                • #9
                  Re: The Army of Arsakh

                  Originally posted by parthiapride
                  Yeah. Go join.

                  We need less armenoid morons around.

                  let's go join together it'll be fun.

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                  • #10
                    Re: The Army of Arsakh

                    Originally posted by Thai-Samurai
                    let's go join together it'll be fun.

                    Nah...you go.

                    Die for something worthwhile. For Jesus, for God, for Country. The Holy Trinity in all.

                    Become a man.

                    I'm just a xxx...

                    Remember that.

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