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  • ninetoyadome
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    Today.Az » Politics » European Court launches probe into Armenian president's involvement in Khojaly massacre

    05 December 2009 [11:43] - Today.Az



    The European Court of Human Rights (ECHR) has asked Turkey-based Organization for Fight against Baseless Armenian Allegations (ASIMDER) to provide documents which prove that Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan ordered Armenian armed forces to commit a massacre in Khojaly, Azerbaijan, Hurriyyet quoted ASIMDER chairman Goksel Gulbey as saying.

    According to him, the European Court of Human Rights replied to their application for Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan to be tried on the Khojaly genocide.

    “European Court of Human Rights stated that they put our application into operation and asked us to send documents about the application to the court by January 8, 2010,” Gulbey said.

    "The court asks us to provide documents about Sargsyan. As an addition to the documents we already have, we asked Azerbaijan’s Consulate General to Kars to provide us with more documents. When documents are sent, we will prepare our application in the shortest term and we will present them to the court.”

    “We believe that the European Court of Human Rights will make a fair decision. Sargsyan was the commander of the Armenian armed forces which committed massacre in Khojaly in 1992. He ordered Armenian armed forces to commit a massacre and he also participated in that. The blood of the victims of Khojaly massacre has not dried yet. 1.2 million Azerbaijani citizen had to flee their homeland as displaced persons in that period. Sargsyan should be tried in ECHR for these crimes,” he added.

    /APA/

    URL: http://www.today.az/news/politics/57965.html

    they have MANY documents apparently
    let me guess all there "documents" are azeris saying Sargsyan ordered the Armenians to attack. i cant wait to see these so-called documents.

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  • Federate
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    RA Ambassador UN refutes Azeri disinformation about Khojalu
    12.11.2009 13:31 GMT+04:00

    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Addressing the participants, Azerbaijani Ambassador to the UN Agshin Mehdiyev addressed the so-called “Khojalu massacre”.

    For his part, Armenia’s Ambassador Karen Nazaryan emphasized that his speech is conditioned by the necessity to denounce the ethnic cleansings perpetrated by Azerbaijan before and during the Karabakh conflict.

    He also reminded that ex-president of Azerbaijan Ayaz Mutalibov accused the Azeri opposition of organizing the killings in Khojalu with a purpose to put the blame on the authorities. “Baku provoked the war in Karabakh and thanks to Armenia’s interference, the people of Nagorno Karabakh survived,” he said.

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  • Icy
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    Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
    Definitively. I'd like to learn more about those events actually. What are some good books on the topic?
    I my friend have not read any books on the subject,
    but I'm sure Federate or Joseph have if not you can
    search the topic, just make sure you don't look at a non bias
    or propagandic source. I'll do more research on it to my friend,
    and I'll let you know.

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  • ninetoyadome
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    i read this a few days ago

    SUMGAIT EVENTS ARCHAIVE IS PUT ON PUBLIC DISPLAY

    The General Prosecutor’s Office of Armenia puts on public display the materials of criminal cases on the mass ferocity and violence conducted against Sumgait Armenians in the end of 1980 and an electronic archive will be constructed based on those facts which will be available for all the interested sides, GP press service reports.

    According to the source the electronic archive is to be constructed joint with “Xenophobia preventing initiative” NGO. It is supposed that the archive will be ready in 2-3 months and will be available in the internet.

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  • jgk3
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    Originally posted by Icy View Post
    We should raise awareness of the genocides commited
    by the azeries on Armenians of Baku, Sumgait, Maraghar,
    and Kirovabad.
    Definitively. I'd like to learn more about those events actually. What are some good books on the topic?

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  • Icy
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    We should raise awareness of the genocides commited
    by the azeries on Armenians of Baku, Sumgait, Maraghar,
    and Kirovabad.

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  • jgk3
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    Thanks for the info guys.

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  • ninetoyadome
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    Originally posted by Federate View Post
    Cox is not the only one. There is also a Canadian military historian who has published a book on the Artsakh war that agrees. Also, the former leadership of Azerbaijan who was ousted by the Aliyevs also agrees with the Armenian account and this is as high ranked as the first president of Azerbaijan Ayaz Mutalibov. A couple of foreign journalists (Czech and Bulgarian from what I remember) who were at the scene of the battle also agree with the Armenian side.

    The problem is they have successfully marketed the myth and have overblown it while we have failed to do so with the genocides in Sumgait, Maraghar, Baku and Kirovabad.
    here is the article about the Canadian military historian:

    There is no evidence that the Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh committed "genocide" against Meskhetian Turks of Khojaly, Canadian military historian Patrick Wilson Gore said. Gore stated that Stalin's annexation of Nagorno Karabakh to Azerbaijan was due to his "paranoia" of Armenians and a secret deal between him and Ataturk, the Turkish dictator. The Canadian expert stated that for 70 years Armenians of Nagorno Karabakh were treated as second-class citizens under Azeri rule. The treatment of Armenians by Azeris was a classic case of ethnic cleansing. After the Sumgait and Baku massacres of Armenians in the early 1990s, the Armenians were forced to fight to defend their families and their lives. In regard to the Khojaly incident, Gore said "Azeri troops ran faster than the Meskhetian Turk civilians they had been using as human shields". Upon their retreat to Agdam, civilians of Khojaly were fired upon by the Azeri OMON garrison of Agdam, mistaking them for Armenian forces. He said that a day before the start of Khojaly battle, the Azeri forces executed 32 Armenian prisoners of war. Regarding the ongoing Azeri government threats of resumption of war to take Nagorno Karabakh, Gore said that "peace is for the benefit of both sides". It is true that the Azeri government is getting emboldened with its new-found oil wealth, but the Aliyev government has to "consider that their oil and gas pipelines run 30 km north of Nagorno Karabakh, and Azeris have invested heavily in their Baku facilities." Gore questioned whether Azeris want to jeopardize their vital pipelines and "risk their money sources." The author of the 139-page book is a Canadian specialist in military history and theory. He studied at Oxford, and subsequently graduated from the National Defense College at Kingston, one of NATO's senior command colleges. Much of his career has focused on strategic intelligence. This is his eleventh book. He used to be paratrooper and marine commando.

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  • Federate
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    Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
    Well that's a first. I'm glad that someone in the international scene explicitly agrees with our account of Khojalu.
    Cox is not the only one. There is also a Canadian military historian who has published a book on the Artsakh war that agrees. Also, the former leadership of Azerbaijan who was ousted by the Aliyevs also agrees with the Armenian account and this is as high ranked as the first president of Azerbaijan Ayaz Mutalibov. A couple of foreign journalists (Czech and Bulgarian from what I remember) who were at the scene of the battle also agree with the Armenian side. Also, Azerbaijani hero Chingiz Mustafayev who shot the videos of the alleged dead mysteriously was killed after he started doubting the events and wanted to conduct further investigation. Another prominent journalist on our side is Eynullah Fatulayev who currently is living inside a jail cell in Baku for you can guess what reason.

    The problem is they have successfully marketed the myth and have overblown it while we have failed to do so with the genocides in Sumgait, Maraghar, Baku and Kirovabad.

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  • ninetoyadome
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    Originally posted by Federate View Post
    Caroline Cox has devoted much of her life to the Artsakh liberation cause. She continues to shine here. Artsakh has even opened a school with her name. This is information from Wikipedia about her work with Armenians:
    Shes on the side of truth. She knows Armenia is not the aggressor but the azeris were, she knows khojaly is bullxxxx, so shes against those lies like she said she saw azeris using civilians as shields, she saw the massacre at Maragha and she witnessed the Armenians, who like she says had a much smaller army, defeat the azeri who had a 10x larger army and were better equipped. shes on the side of truth.

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