Map of Kurdistan!

[obi]

Re: Map of Kurdistan!

Why not?

In a political/Nation kind of sense???

Sorry, but Kurds have never been able to pull themselves together into numbers that would constitute more than a small club.

Nations stay together, fight together... Get recognised. Although Capitalism might not be to your liking, even the good old USSR had leaders. Who were your famous leaders??? Who would they be now???

In England we have Gypsies. AKA Pikeys, Travellers... But even they have "Kings".. Of their so called tribes.

Not being prejudice here but,.. you had nothing, you stood together for nothing, and in parts here you boast of killing Armenians during the Holocaust. For the Turks... Well done. I would be more than happy to let you see out your chances with the Arabs, Turks, Iranian and Iraqis.

Don't worry again for your species... It wont last that long.

[oyuncu]

Re: Map of Kurdistan!

My Kurdish friend, first of all you need a history to be recognised as a first class nation that has a right to establish a nation. For example, we had a great Armenian Empire at Cilicia in Middle ages. Where is yours?

[Londoner]

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My Kurdish friend, first of all you need a history to be recognised as a first class nation that has a right to establish a nation. For example, we had a great Armenian Empire at Cilicia in Middle ages. Where is yours?

uhh yeahhh

[Otto3]

Re: Map of Kurdistan!

look for the mountain tops..

[Turkish Dude]

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Cant you guys see that the areas claimed by Kurds are the same areas claimed by Armenians?

This is why I think it is better that the current status quo is kept.

[Londoner]

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trying to get sympathy with Armenians with the conflict?

[Turkish Dude]

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trying to get sympathy with Armenians with the conflict?

I dont quite understand what your trying to say.

The truth and reality of the situation is that the areas that you want for "Northern Kurdistan" are being claimed by many Armenians as "Western Armenia". Anonymouse even said (I think he thinks that Armenia would get back their entire ancient empire) he was willing to move to Diyarbakir (even though that is almost in South Central Turkey) if that went to Armenia it would block your your so-called "capital of Northern Kurdistan" from "South Kurdistan".

My point is Londoner I am not stupid I know what kind of hatred Armenians and some Kurds have for the Turks but Londoner if you went to Turkey you would realise that most Kurds like Turkey and they dont feel a need to break away from Turkey. Infact the Kurdish party only obtained 6% of the vote in the last election. Even then out of those Kurds the total number of those who want independence is probably much lower than that figure.

However as you are a Kurd who lives abroad I am certain you want a independent Northern Kurdistan. As Armenian abroad want a "Western Armenia". Just think both of you cant get what you want and remember Armenians are saying that they want a Western Armenia without any Kurds or Turks in it. Do you know how many millions of people would have to leave? I'm sure you dont want that and neither do I.

You may think that the Kurds and the Armenians can unite and fight the Turks. You could but after you deal with the Turks, who is going to get the land? The Kurds and Armenians would have to fight it out against each other for these lands. Do you see how and why its not that simple.

I am for the current status quo to be maintained. I sincerely hope (and have faith) that the Turkish government will grant the Kurds more cultural rights and other rights. I dont believe this is impossible and I am sure that Turkish joining the EU will bring the Kurds the freedoms that they deserve. I am support the idea of the Armenians returning to their former lands should they wish.

I am opposed to the idea that a "Western Armenia" and/or a "Northern Kurdistan" is established in Eastern Turkey.

[Arto]

Re: Map of Kurdistan!

You forget the rums. East Anatolia also known as "land of rums". Example: Erzurum (erz-u rum) means city of rums. But funny part of Turkey is Yumurtalik. Not only it's name (yumurtalik means testis), but also it's situation. 5 nations "greater" map include Yumurtalik: Kurds, King David, Turkish Gypsies, Araps, Rums. But the fact is they have to weigh my left one for their dream.

[Sip]

Re: Map of Kurdistan!

wow someone's a bit emotional You do realize wanting to "f***" a dude is really gay, right?

[Quarteria]

Re: Map of Kurdistan!

wow someone's a bit emotional You do realize wanting to "f***" a dude is really gay, right?

So are all Turks. Turkish Baths -- duh.