Liberation of Western Armenia

[Lucin]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Կովկասի պատասխանը կարող է լինել Աբխազիայի եւ Հարավային Օսեթիայի ճանաչուը

ԱՄՆ- ի հետախոզուտեան տնօրէնՄայքըլ Մաքքանէլը վտանգավոր քայլ է համարել Ռուսաստանի կողմից Վրաստանի չճանաչւած հանրապետութիւնների անկախաթեան հավանական ճանաչում ը:
« Կովկասում իրադարձուտիւնների ապագայ զարգացումը հավանաբար սերտօրէն կապված կը լինի այն բանի հետ թէ ինչ կարող է տեղի ունենալ այդ տարաձաշրջանի սահմաններից դուրս» , ասել է Մաքքանել ը օրերս ելութ ունենալով սենատի կողմից կայացա ծ ունկնդրումների ժամանակ:

«Եթէ կօսովօն այս տարի անկախութիւն ձեռք բերի, որ ը հավանական է թւում, Ռուսաստանը նախազգուշացրել է որ ինքը կարող է դրան պատասխանել Վրաստանի անջատակողական տարածաշրջանների ճանաչմամբ, որ ը վսանգաւոր քայլ կը լինի», ասել է ԱՄՆ-ի Ազգային հէտախոզութեան ղեկավարը:

[Armenian]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

ուզումեմ ձեր ուշադրութիւնը գրավել հետեւյալ հեռուստատեսային ծրագրին: http://www.ars1910.org/arsjavakhkclip.htm

Եթէ Թիֆլիսի քաղաքականությունը ներկայիս հոսանքով շարունակվի Վրաստանի գոյությունը, իբր պետութիւն, կարջ է լինելու: Ես անձամբ գիդեմ որ որոշ ազգային մարմիններ լուրջ գործողութիւններ են կատարվում Ջավախքում:

[Armenian]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

ARF Shant Kickstarts Planning for Reunification of Western Armenia

Los Angeles, CA - On Sunday, December 3rd, about 150 college and high school students attended a Panel Discussion organized by the Armenian Revolutionary Federation Shant Student Association (ARF Shant) at Hollywood's Karapetian Hall. The topic of the panel discussion was the re-integration and re-development of the occupied Western Armenian territories after they have been returned by Turkey as a condition of Armenian Genociden recognition. The experts who participated in the panel discussion were political scientist and historian Garabet Moumdjian, Ph.D., economist and professor Ara Khanjian, Ph.D., and professional civil engineer Aram Kaloustian P.E.

The panel discussion was moderated by Levon Baronian, founder of the Confederation of All-Armenian Student Associations (All-ASA) and administrator of the ExecNet Armenian Network of Student Clubs (ExecNet). Before introducing the panelists, Mr. Baronian relayed that the ARF Shant organized this event because it believes that the time has come to take Hay Dat to the next level and begin planning for what comes after the imminent recognition of the Armenian Genocide. The panelists presented interesting facts about Western Armenia and discussed a broad range of issues pertaining to the challenges faced in repopulating and revitalizing the region.

Dr. Garabet Moumdjian presented a historical overview of the legitimate claims that Armenians have over the occupied regions and offered insight into the geopolitical questions of reunification. Dr. Ara Khanjian provided vital statistics on the region and offered analysis on its current economic and demographic realities, particularly as they relate to the remainder of Turkey and the Republic of Armenia. Mr. Aram Kaloustian spoke on a variety of infrastructural issues that must be considered, such as rapid construction of housing, securing sources of water and energy, and repairing transportation routes.

The audience submitted dozens of written questions during the discussion, after which the panelists read and answered as many of the questions as possible within the time allotted. On behalf of the ARF Shant, Mr. Baronian concluded the panel discussion by thanking the panelists and audience for making the revolutionary and ground-breaking event a great success. The mission of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation "Shant" Student Association (ARF Shant) is to bring a higher level of political and cultural awareness to Armenian students within American Universities and institutions of higher learning. The ARF Shant's goal is to work side by side with the Armenian Student Associations and other Armenian Student organizations to further the Armenian Cause.

Source:http://groong.usc.edu/news/msg171409.html

[ARK]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

But I thought that you holy Armenians were trying to have Turks accept quasi genocide.

We don't need your recognition but your destruction. and if not the destruction, at least we "ask" you to pack up and get back to Ulan batur.

[tirvana]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Wow! In the entire Balkan war the casualties didn't even add up to that. Poor "muslims". Get lost, as a matter of fact, the beastial sadism perpetrated by those "muslims" could only have been learned by your kind.

It is very natural that you dont want to see mass graves come on the scene even today in Srebrenitsa . But at the same time you can say that so called 1,5 million armenians got lost in deserts. Somehow this huge number of people could get lost in deserts and in rivers yes 1,5 million armenians. Maybe turks sent them into space, because we cant find them and their mass graves on the earth. or turks might have killed each of the armenians two times ,in this way we can reach this huge number

[BARIŞ]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

I'm sick of all the turkic invaders of this forum repeating the same exact bullxxxx.

But I thought that you holy Armenians were trying to have Turks accept quasi genocide. Holy Armenians then should tell Turks a reason why Turks should not deem what holy Armenians claim as a bullxxxx, if holy Armenians,who have been struggling for discussing their treachery with Turks, deem what 'the bad part' they did during their rebellion in 1915 as a bullxxxx

[Armenian]

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In related topic:

Armenia plans to occupy Abkhazia? Georgian intelligentsia accuses Armenians of genocide of Georgians

APA news agency (Baku) reports that 60 representatives of the Georgian intelligentsia have demanded that Georgian President Mikhail Saakashvili recognize the genocide committed by Armenians in Georgia.

They say that in 1993, the “Bagramyan” military unit, together with Abkhazians, fought against the Georgian army and killed Georgians living in Abkhazia: “Before the Czar, Russia populated Georgian Javakheti with Armenians, there had been no single Armenian in that region. However, today Javakheti is mentioned as part of Armenia. Having ‘crippled’ the Georgian monuments in the territory of Javakheti, the Armenians are not trying to convince everybody that they are Armenian. All this is being done systematically, and so, must be recognized as a genocide against the Georgian nation.”

Member of the Supreme Council of Abkhazia in exile Akaky Gasviani supports this initiative and points out that the Armenians have a big role in the “occupation” of Georgian lands and the establishment of the separatist regime in Abkhazia.

The Golos Armenii daily publishes the abridged version of the article “What Is Armenia Plotting Against Georgia,” published in the Aisi daily (Georgia) (#36, Oct 3-9 2006). Golos Armenii says that the article tells how Armenians populated Abkhazia and Ajaria and what the atrocities the “Bagramyan” battalion committed during the war against the Georgians. "Journalist Gogneli quotes “some expert on Armenian problems” as saying:

“If anybody thinks that the Russians will appropriate Abkhazia, he is mistaken. Should they – God forbid — recognize Abkhazia as an independent, the Armenians will occupy this region in just one year. Today, they are silent and are just waiting for a good opportunity. But as soon as it happens, they will rise and appropriate this Georgian region. Today, they are trying to occupy Abkhazia’s sea coast — they are actively working in this direction. Then, they will ‘take care of’ Javakheti” and, finally, they will get access to the sea. This is a part of their “Great Armenia” plan. So, we, the Georgians, must be vigilant and wise. I wonder if our leadership is thinking about it?"

The Azg daily says that, neither in the Georgian mass media nor via its own sources in Georgia, has it managed to find anything that could prove the information of the Georgian daily. Asked by Azg to comment on the statement, Ambassador of Georgia to Armenia Revaz Gachechiladze said that he knows nothing about such a statement and, even if it was made, he, first of all, wants to know the names of its authors. “In any case, this is not the position of the Georgian Government.”

Link: http://www.regnum.ru/english/739111.html?forprint

[skhara]

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15 years ago 250.000 muslims massacred by serbians in the middle of Europe (modern Europe) and yugoslavia broken into pieces now, we see new countries there

Wow! In the entire Balkan war the casualties didn't even add up to that. Poor "muslims". Get lost, as a matter of fact, the beastial sadism perpetrated by those "muslims" could only have been learned by your kind.

I'm sick of all the turkic invaders of this forum repeating the same exact bullxxxx.

[tirvana]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

I myself think the same as the Armenians, "most of the Turks are stupid", like Aziz Nesin had said once.

For that reason, turks had governed armenians for about 1000 years and for that reason, turks founded a world empire and had lands on three continents and for that reason, when Istanbul conquered by turks, chiristians were allowed to be free in their religion ( also now) and go to their chuches, for that reason,turks accepted the j e ws who escaped from Spain in 1492,for that reason turks beated five emperialist countries 90 years ago
If I was governed by another country for centuries. I couldn't put up with that, I would think the same as you. you re right...
And Let's look old Yugoslavia, 15 years ago 250.000 muslims massacred by serbians in the middle of Europe (modern Europe) and yugoslavia broken into pieces now, we see new countries there
Lets look, middle east which was governed by ottomans in peace for centuries. And then, Great Britain, France, Italy drew the borders of Iraq, Syria and other countries (and now America want to draw new borders once again in the middle east.)
And Lets look Palastine, j e ws had wanted ottomans to settle down the region of palastine in exchange of money in the past and rejected by Ottomans. but Great Britain allowed them and they were settled down day by day .And now "so called arabs who hate from turks" are killed everyday by Israil.

Yes you are right, turks are stupid, because they could have massacred all of the armenians in Anatolia easly instead of a deportation to Syria or Lebanon and because turkey is one of the countries who first recognize Armenian Republic, and because now there are 33 armenian churches just in Istanbul and because turkey forgot that 33 turk ammbassadors and their wifes were killed by armenians in some parts of the world in the past and because there is Armenian Patriarchate in Istanbul....etc
I agree with you...

[Vagharshapat]

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I myself think the same as the Armenians, "most of the Turks are stupid", like Aziz Nesin had said once. I myself find the Turkish community very hypocritical. They are unaware of the phrase "Do onto others as you would wish them do onto you". They have no sense of empathy. They always claim posession over everything and always consider themselves absolute right. They have a national arrogance. So they can not think properly and lose their sense of Truth. So losing the sense of Truth causes a national madness and hysteria. In my opinion the Turkish nation is suffering a mental sickness right now. I call it national paranoia and alienation. They feel so alone in the world and think that everybody in the world is the enemy of Turks. Everybody is a traitor in the world and only they are very right. There is a saying in Turkish; "There are no friends of Turks except for Turks". This is a very crippled way of thinking. You must think about this; The Greeks hate Turks, The Armenians hate Turks, The Bulgarians hate Turks, the Romanians hate Turks, the Kurds hate Turks, the Serbians hate Turks, the Iranians hate Turks, the Arabians hate Turks. A proper person must be able to ask himself; "Is there something wrong with me?" Maybe I am wrong? But Turks never ask these kind of questions. They dont settle accounts with themselves. They dont confront with their mistakes. They are always right. Actually I am very unpleasant to live in a sick minded community like this as this community is losing touch with the world community and humanity day by day. Also there is no freedom of speech in Turkey because if you express your opinions about the Turkish community they make you pay for this for the reason of "insulting the Turkishness". So in my opinion the country MUST question itself from the beginning to the end. There must be a revolution. But Turkish people never rise up for something. They must question how the Kurds were persecuted since 1923. How many thousands of people killed by the Republic in 1921-1925-1928-1937 Kurdish rebellions. What happened in Diyarbakır prisons? They couldnt even question the junta leader Kenan Evren. And we are still living with that 1982 constitution. There can never be democracy in Turkey because democracy is a way of thinking, a way of life, it is respect for freedom of thinking, freedom of speech. Turkish people have never adopted this way of thinking because they are familiar with dictating one's ideas by force, opressing people with intolerance. This is the way we do it in Turkey...