Liberation of Western Armenia

[Sip]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

sip whats up with you.....i think armenian haven't done anything wrong but still you pick on him...

I guess in general, I just take issue with his tone that makes it seem like he is talking for all "Armenians" by saying "we" and "us" don't need this and that. He is certainly not talking for me in this specific case about bell-the-cat so that was the reason behind my reply in this thread. Although I don't agree with everything Bell says all the time, I actually think he has some valid points and does bring a fresh and different perspective sometimes that can be very valuable when the same ideas keep being inbred over and over among just Armenians ... and worst of all, the inbreeding of certain ideas are at times used to self-validate some very strong yet possibly wrong and dangerous notions over time!

And whether Armenian likes it or not, "stupid" Armenians like me, and even non Armenians, are just as entitled to having opinions as "smart Armenians" like him. That's all.

The rest of the insults and put downs are just entirely irrelevant IMO but they seem to be unavoidable when interacting with some people.

[dani87]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

This quote brought to you courtesy of an apparent self proclaimed spokesman for EVERYONE. Who is this "us" and "we" you are referring to?

sip whats up with you.....i think armenian haven't done anything wrong but still you pick on him...

[Armenian]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

All your insults aside, you seem to have entirely missed the point so I'll spell it out: I, as an Armenian, don't remember ever having given you permission to talk in my place. So your posts about what "we Armenians" want or need have absolutely no validity other than to express your personal view as an individual Armenian. That's of course assuming you want to start making some sense yourself before putting others down.

If you want the Catman to speak for you that's your problem. Besides, I have known you virtually for a long time now, to me, you are no Armenian - you are a turk

PS: If you don't want to get insulted by me then keep your worthless comments to yourself.

[Sip]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

All your insults aside, you seem to have entirely missed the point so I'll spell it out: I, as an Armenian, don't remember ever having given you permission to talk in my place. So your posts about what "we Armenians" want or need have absolutely no validity other than to express your personal view as an individual Armenian. That's of course assuming you want to start making some sense yourself before putting others down.

[Sip]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

You as a 'Brit' should mind your own business, especially when your welcome is long expired. Don't preach to us about what we need to do. We don't need individuals like you giving us advice. If you dont like it, too bad. You and your "virtualani" needs to be show the door. Bye-bye

This quote brought to you courtesy of an apparent self proclaimed spokesman for EVERYONE. Who is this "us" and "we" you are referring to?

[Armenian]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

Armenian, when talking about Western Armenia, do you have the map of the Sevres treaty in mind or beyond?

That would be ideal for me. However, I realize that things don't always work out the way you would like it to work out. I just want Armenia to be able to have direct access to the Black Sea and include the regions of Van, Erzerum and Nakhijevan. We must also not forget about Javakhk.

[Otto3]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

russie signed it... that must be legal too i guess..?

[Davo88]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

We also have some legal backing. The Treaty of Sèvres (with Wilsonian Armenia) was signed by both Armenian and Turkish governments, but the Treaty of Lausanne, which established the current borders of Turkey, was signed only by the Turkish government.

Armenian, when talking about Western Armenia, do you have the map of the Sevres treaty in mind or beyond?

[Anonymouse]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

At this rate, neither Turks nor Armenians will possess those lands at the rate in which the Kurds are breeding.

[Otto3]

Re: Liberation of Western Armenia

i said you are dangerous because you are approaching the issue logically and systematically.... ofcourse i prefer Armenians... actually who can be dumb enough to give lands to kurds.. it would be a great shame.. i want a real enemy who has the balls to earn some land not mountain goats
at least we can say we lost land to some worthy people

but i prefer not giving anything without some fight ofcourse...