Armenian Armor Brigade Trains in the US

[ArmenianKid]

And i helped (at least i would hope to think so)

In Fort Knox, KY a armored Brigade from Armenia came to train, geared up and ready to go at it.

How does this work?

We (16th Cav Regiment) supply the ammo and MILEs gear (MILEs is pretty much high tech laser tag for rifles and tanks)

We were being OPFOR (the enemie to the armenian troops) we were defend a large wooded area using M1A2 Abrams MBTs and A3 Bradlys we also used a handful of new Stryker attack APCs Also 4 platoons of dismounts

The Armenian soldiers came with a weird ass mix match of stuff:

T-72s T-80s Merkava MK4s (who knew Israel ship them tanks? not me) And BMP APCs. They also brought ALOT of Javlin anti-armor rockets to use on us.

The way this works is pretty much the armenians attack us, we defend and teach them how americans fight with armor.

then we attack them and they teach us how to fight the armenian armor way.

We didn't do any real training today, we just set up, but for the next few weeks this will go on. I can't wait!

[Armenian]

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This is interesting, keep us posted.

The "weird ass mix match" tanks Armenians are using are not their own, it belongs to the US Army and is used for such purposes.

These military trainings are organized so that war planners here can analyze 'up-close' a potential enemy's military capabilities and in doing so perhaps 'befriend' a few high ranking officers.

[ArmenianKid]

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No, those tanks were the Armenian troops tanks.

Fort knox doesn't have any armor like that on base. They brought it over with them.

[Fedayeen]

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I think t-72 and 80 are Russian and mk4 is Isreali


So Armenians came from Armenia bringing with them tanks, anti-tank weapons, etc to train with the American army?

hummm....kinda wierd...

[Armenian]

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No, those tanks were the Armenian troops tanks. Fort knox doesn't have any armor like that on base. They brought it over with them.

That's hard to believe. I suggest you look further into this matter, what are we here paying you for?

I am very familiar with the US military and I have been a military enthusiast for many years. I know for sure that the US military has foreign made armor and aircraft that they use for such kinds of training purposes. This hardware does not have to be stationed in Fort Knox, they could be brought in from other undisclosed locations.

I know Armenia does NOT have Israeli made Merkeva tanks, and they most probably don't have the Russian made T-80s either. And even if they did have T-80s, or better models, they would most probably not have take them out of the country to begin with. Also, attempting to bring heavy armor from "landlocked" Armenia is a massive logistical and geopolitical problem to begin with.

How are they to be taken out, via Georgia, a nation on the brink of a civil war? Perhaps an airlift could have take the armor out of the country in ones or two, but the Armenian Air Force does not have the proper cargo planes for that task. Did American C-5s go back and forth, back and forth? I doubt it. Did Russians do it? I doubt it.

[Armenian]

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Btw, we are expecting you to pass vital battle field information to the Armenian Forces during the up-coming battles. If at any time you think you are going to get caught, we will provide you with a password which you can use to defect to the 'right' side.

In the mean while keep a low profile, just listen and observe. When the time is right, we will contact you.

Good luck and God be with you.

Your password is: Hay em aper, ch'khpess.

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[Artsakh]

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ArmenianKid,

I have a question for you: why the hell aren't you in college? what are you doing serving this bastard nation who is indifferent to whether its soldiers live or die?

[gmd]

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ArmenianKid,

I have a question for you: why the hell aren't you in college? what are you doing serving this bastard nation who is indifferent to whether its soldiers live or die?

I can't agree with this comment. Whatever ArmenianKid's motives I think more Armenian-Americans should consider joining the US military. Besides some obvious benefits to the individual if they have any plans to repatriate then they would bring valuable knowledge in military doctrine. The volunteer military of the US relies on high-tech which may be outside of Armenia's current reach but it should be the long term goal. The Soviet/Russian doctrine is based on massive numbers. This is not practical for Armenia.

[Armenian]

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I can't agree with this comment. Whatever ArmenianKid's motives I think more Armenian-Americans should consider joining the US military. Besides some obvious benefits to the individual if they have any plans to repatriate then they would bring valuable knowledge in military doctrine. The volunteer military of the US relies on high-tech which may be outside of Armenia's current reach but it should be the long term goal. The Soviet/Russian doctrine is based on massive numbers. This is not practical for Armenia.

I can't agree with this comment.

Whatever ArmenianKid's motives may be, I think no Armenian-American should ever consider joining the US military. The Armed Forces of the US are in essence the armed wing of several special interests - oil lobby, defense industry, jooish lobby, mega-corporations. The aforementioned do not even serve the interests of the US. As a matter of fact, the special interests I have mentioned are openly anti-Armenian and pro-Turkish.

Most probably, an Armenian who 'wants' to join the US military has never even visited their Fatherland let alone "repatriate" to the Fatherland. However, they may be a few exceptions. Thus, I ask. Armeniankid: How willing are you to move to Armenia and apply your acquired knowledge to the benifit of your ancestoral homeland? Please be honest with your answer.

What's more, American forces are not as capable as advertised. US Armed Forces heavily rely on high tech weaponry. Man-to-man, tank-to-tank, US troops are worthless in open combat. High tech weaponry will never work in urban environments, alpine environments and forested environments. Placing hope upon American military doctrine as a way to 'improve' Armenia's military is an asburd thought to say the least. Besides, within several vital fields, especially missile technology and armor, the Russian military is still ahead of US's. Armenia's military doctrine is quite well suited for its environment and its national capabilities, it does not impliment 'Soviet' doctrine. The largest Armenian military unit is a 'regiment' and the Armenian military relies heavily upon mechenized infantry, anti-tank squads and anti-aircraft missiles.

[gmd]

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I can't agree with this comment.

Whatever ArmenianKid's motives may be, I think no Armenian-American should ever consider joining the US military. The Armed Forces of the US are in essence the armed wing of several special interests - oil lobby, defense industry, jooish lobby, mega-corporations. The aforementioned do not even serve the interests of the US. As a matter of fact, the special interests I have mentioned are openly anti-Armenian and pro-Turkish.

Most probably, an Armenian who 'wants' to join the US military has never even visited their Fatherland let alone "repatriate" to the Fatherland. However, they may be a few exceptions. Thus, I ask. Armeniankid: How willing are you to move to Armenia and apply your acquired knowledge to the benifit of your ancestoral homeland? Please be honest with your answer.

What's more, American forces are not as capable as advertised. US Armed Forces heavily rely on high tech weaponry. Man-to-man, tank-to-tank, US troops are worthless in open combat. High tech weaponry will never work in urban environments, alpine environments and forested environments. Placing hope upon American military doctrine as a way to 'improve' Armenia's military is an asburd thought to say the least. Besides, within several vital fields, especially missile technology and armor, the Russian military is still ahead of US's. Armenia's military doctrine is quite well suited for its environment and its national capabilities, it does not impliment 'Soviet' doctrine. The largest Armenian military unit is a 'regiment' and the Armenian military relies heavily upon mechenized infantry, anti-tank squads and anti-aircraft missiles.

You mentioned earlier you have interests in military subjects. I stated initially that America relies on tech. I do not have extensive knowledge of Armenia's military strategy only a general understanding of basic formations and equipment. You make some good points however you are mistaken on Russian armor. Especially the tanks that Armenia has. It may be a step above Azeri armor at best.

If you feel that US military doctrine and training is inferior to Russian then you are mistaken yet again. It has developed along with its technological abilities. I do not know what changes the Russians made post USSR however the USSR doctrine was based on massive troop deployment and a centralized command. Armenia having the more common brigade sized units would need to develop technological abilities in line with its size. Additionally they have to change the method of training and doctrine. My intention in my previous post was not to suggest it adopt a western military philosophy but learn from it with the goal of establishing a professional military with the technology to support smaller units in protecting the homeland from a 2 if not 3 front war. Armenia despite the mountains has no room to give in battle. Despite the rather obvious dislike you show towards Israel it is worthwile to consider what they have achieved with the aid of the good ol USA.