The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

[Armenian]

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Russia stakes claim to oil-rich North Pole

"If upheld, Russia could have access to oil and gas deposits potentially worth more than £1 trillion"



A Russian MP will symbolically claim the Arctic and its vast energy resources on behalf of the Kremlin next month by planting a flag on the sea bed directly under the North Pole. Artur Chilingarov is leading an expedition from the northern city of Murmansk and, within a fortnight, he plans to complete the world's deepest submarine dive by descending 4,300 metres in order to plant the Russian flag under the Pole. The gesture comes amid an outpouring of nationalist fervour after Russian scientists claimed in May that they had evidence to back up a long-held claim to nearly one million miles of the Arctic. If upheld, Russia could have access to oil and gas deposits potentially worth more than £1 trillion. Russia's claim is based on an argument that the underwater Lomonosov ridge links the Arctic sea bed to Siberia.

Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main...wrussia225.xml

[Yedtarts]

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“Armenian” you are a true Armenian! Thank you so much for the great job you do, even though I don’t log in every time but I visit this forum almost every day just to read your posts. Peole like you make us proud for who we are. GOD BLESS YOU!

[Siamanto]

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“Armenian” you are a true Armenian! Thank you so much for the great job you do, even though I don’t log in every time but I visit this forum almost every day just to read your posts. Peole like you make us proud for who we are. GOD BLESS YOU!

I agree that a good job is being done in this thread and the one related to Iran; denying it would be a sign of small mindedness. However, one should be fair and credit both Armenian and skhara: I see it as a team work, a project. I hope that it will be continued and inspire others to do the same in other areas.

Of course, it does not mean that , on certain points, I may not have a slightly or completely different view; but, that is not the point here and such is life!

[Armenian]

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“Armenian” you are a true Armenian! Thank you so much for the great job you do, even though I don’t log in every time but I visit this forum almost every day just to read your posts. Peole like you make us proud for who we are. GOD BLESS YOU!

Thank you for your kind words, enker.

I'm just doing what comes to me naturally. My primary intention here is to expose young Armenians to real world politics and Armenian nationalism so that they can better understand the world around them and put it within an Armenian perspective. And in my own way, albeit small, I also want to steer Armenian sentiments towards better understanding of Russians and Iranians. I emphasize the latter because within the Western world, especially within the English speaking world, there is a concerted effort by the powers that be to drive a wedge between us Armenians and Russia and Iran.

Seeing that this discussion board was will full of senseless crap: rap culture, rabiz culture, car talk, teenage humor, silly flirting, Ara Baliozian's self-hate rhetoric, etc, I wanted to bring some substance into it. But like "Siamanto" said, it is a team work. As for enker Skhara, him and I go back a few years - virtually speaking that is. Seeing his ideological and moral maturity within various discussion boards I have developed great respect for him. I also have to say that the moderators "Annonymous" and "loseyourname" have helped me here allot as well. Without them my stay here would probably have ended a long time ago.

Anyway, I don't want to get into a long speech. Please participate in this effort, let's help bring up the quality of the discussions here, or at the very least help us disseminate important information to the general public.

And thank you again and God bless you and your family.

[Sip]

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Thank you for your kind words, enker.

I'm just doing what comes to me naturally. My primary intention here is to expose young Armenians to real world politics and Armenian nationalism ...

I just wish you wouldn't let your hate for to US to cloud your judgement so much. A lot of the articles you post are interesting, but they are almost always very one-sided. I have NEVER once seen you post anything positive about the US (I am not referring to this thread per se).

Fortunatley there isn't almost anyone here that really reads these threads other than your own "team" and maybe myself and a couple others ... but overall, if some impressionable mind only read what you post, he or she would have a very skewed view of the world (as in Israel and US bad, the rest of the world fighting against them good -- which by association includes fundamental Islam). This is not to say US and Israel are angels by any means, but at least the US is not as unilaterally "bad" as your threads suggest. They just happen to be allied with Israel which you (and a lot of others) don't particularly like -- which is fine in itself and a lot of the reasons are just.

I would always encourage a more balanced view -- especially if you reflect back and see all you have ever done is to bash the US policies and never pointed out ANYTHING good that they have ever done... unless you think the US NEVER does anything good which I would attribute to middle-east propaganda.

[Armenian]

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I just wish you wouldn't let your hate for to US to cloud your judgement so much.

Needless to say, I'm an Armenian-American, I have great admiration toward the USA. I see Armenia as my mother/father, the USA as my wife.

Nevertheless, my "anti-American" political sentiments are shared by a growing percentage of Americans today. There are a growing number of Americans today that are attacking the US government's policy towards the Middle East and Russia. There are many Americans today, perhaps in the tens of millions, that are not buying the government sponsored propaganda regarding the events of September 11, 2001. And I'm also a great admirer of Patrick Buchanan who I consider to be one of the last great American politicians. I simply hate and fear the Neoconservatives movement, a movement that is J-e-w lead and a movement that is currently driving this once great nation into oblivion. I also reject this nation's pop culture, its growing liberalism and its consumerism. I also see that US politicians today are serving mega corporation and not the people who elected them. And again, I find that these views regarding the societal/political ailments of this nation are being expressed by more and more Americans.

I suggest you to read the many new publications that enforce the points I have raised. This is a book that I am currently reading, I suggest you give it a look:

The Last Days of Democracy How Big Media And The Power Hungry Government Are Turning America into a Dictatorship: http://www.amazon.com/Last-Days-Demo.../dp/1591025044

And let me remind you that such publications are written by Americans.

A lot of the articles you post are interesting, but they are almost always very one-sided. I have NEVER once seen you post anything positive about the US (I am not referring to this thread per se).

Perhaps. However, I do so because you, as well as all others in this society, are under constant bombardment by the controlled media. Had I not posted this information here would you have? Had I not initiated these discussions would you have? As a matter of fact, all of the nonsense that you have blurted out of your mouth have been Neocon derived propaganda. You are a sad example of how ignorant the average American today is regarding international politics.

I would always encourage a more balanced view -- especially if you reflect back and see all you have ever done is to bash the US policies and never pointed out ANYTHING good that they have ever done... unless you think the US NEVER does anything good which I would attribute to middle-east propaganda.

Anything good, politically speaking, that could be said of the United States ended when the Soviet Union collapsed. When you grow up someday you will better understand what I'm telling you.

As usual, your comments have been pointless and senseless. However, I know I can't expect much from you.

[Sip]

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At least you are predictable in your inability to take even the slightest criticism. That is one of the dangers when one surrounds him or herself with "yes-men" who will always agree with what you say no matter what the "substance". I understand that my rather balanced view to the world is a bit shocking to you but that's a good thing about the Internet. One-sided "cause-driven" drivles will eventually hit the wall of reason

[Sip]

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Perhaps. However, I do so because you, as well as all others in this society, are under constant bombardment by the controlled media.

I have to say that you do have a good point there. Constant bombardment of any kind is never a good thing. There has to be balance. Unfortunately balance often seems to be achieved through the clash of the one-siders.

[melikianAvak]

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[QUOTE=Armenian;177593]Needless to say, I'm an Armenian-American, I have great admiration toward the USA. I see Armenia as my mother/father, the USA as my wife.



I am also an Armenian - American, I have also come to think as you in the last several years. I have been here a long time and I think the USA has and is being sold by our politicians. This is what has happened to many nations in the past.

It is a shame, this was a great country and I was always very proud of it in the past. The apathy of many Americans is a big problem here. I don't see things changing for the better. I hope I am wrong and it gets turned around.

God Bless Armenia and the USA

[Armenian]

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I am also an Armenian - American, I have also come to think as you in the last several years. I have been here a long time and I think the USA has and is being sold by our politicians. This is what has happened to many nations in the past.

This is not about "America" per say, this is about global politics and America's role within it. America essentially became a pariah state, an imperial power, soon after the collapse of the Soviet Union. However, all the ingredients of such behavior was there much before the Soviet collapse. The Soviet collapse essentially opened the gates. Today, our politicians here are nothing but executives representing massive international corporations and the foreign policy making apparatus in this country is being held hostage by several entities - the oil lobby, the defense industry, the Stock Market, and the Zionist lobby.

The apathy of many Americans is a big problem here. I don't see things changing for the better. I hope I am wrong and it gets turned around.

The apathy of many Americans is by design, designed by the political elite. An educated citizenry does not make governing easy, especially if you have to use your citizenry to wage numerous wars overseas in the name of profit. Thus, we see the brainwashing and the dumbing down of the citizenry. And it's not going to turn around, it never has historically speaking. The USA reached its pinnacle, its zenith, during the Cold War and the years following the Soviet Collapse. Today, however, with the rise of China and Russia, as well as America's problems problems in the Middle East, Asia and South America, as well as its almost fifty trillion dollar deficit, the forward momentum of America has stopped and will gradually go into reverse. The US government is playing with too many major fires at the same time. Once the proverbial powder keg explodes no one will be able to contain it, and in this age of advanced missile technology and WMDs the oceans will not protect the borders anymore.

In essence, the country has gotten too big, too bloated, too complacent, too oblivious - sooner or later something will happen to trigger its implosion. And then watch the house collapse. Take a good look at the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina in New Orleans if you want to know what can happen here when the reach and authority of the centralized government breaks down.