The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations

[KarotheGreat]

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Armenia to get opportunity to establish military stations in Russia

18.08.2009 16:41

Armenia may get opportunity to establish two military stations on the territory of Russia to provide transit. According to the sources it is quite possible, in particular within the frameworks of agreement on establishing rapid reaction forces in CSTO. The same source informed that the matter is now being discussed by the military circles of the two states.

http://www.armradio.am/news/?part=pol&id=15566

Awesome news

[Haykakan]

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How is this going to improve transit?

[Alexandros]

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US considering anti-missile bases in Turkey: report

Thursday, August 27, 2009

WARSAW - Agence France-Presse

Washington will scrap plans to put anti-missile bases in Poland and the Czech Republic and is looking at alternatives including Israel and Turkey, a Polish newspaper reported Thursday, citing U.S. officials.

The U.S. plan, intended for defense against attacks from Iran, has met with fierce objections from Russia, which regarded the eastern European bases as a threat to its own security.

Leading Polish daily Gazeta Wyborcza cited administration officials and lobbyists in Washington in support of its story.

Pro-missile shield lobbyist Riki Ellison said the signals from the Pentagon were "absolutely clear", with U.S. authorities scouting for alternatives sites, the paper reported.

No immediate comment was available from U.S., Polish or Czech officials.

Gazeta Wyborcza said Washington was now considering deploying anti-missile interceptors on naval vessels and at bases in Israel and Turkey, as well as potentially in the Balkans.

Ellison told the paper that a conference last week, U.S. generals "never once" mentioned the plan, which was initiated by the previous U.S. administration of President George W. Bush.

After taking office this year, Bush's successor Barack Obama launched a review of the controversial system.

Gazeta Wyborcza cited a source at the U.S. Congress, whom it did not identify, as saying that Washington had been "testing the water" among lawmakers for weeks about scrapping the eastern European part of the plan.

In 2008, Warsaw and Washington struck a deal on deploying 10 U.S. long-range interceptor missiles in Poland as part of a global air-defense system.

The system, which was meant to be operational by 2013, also foresaw a radar base in the Czech Republic, Poland's southern neighbor.

Washington said the goal was to ward off potential Iranian attacks, pointing to Tehran's nuclear program.

But Moscow condemned what it said was a U.S. threat on its doorstep and threatened to train nuclear warheads on Poland and the Czech Republic.

Warsaw and Prague broke from the crumbling communist bloc in 1989 and joined NATO 10 years later.

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[jgk3]

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Damn... if they're really serious about this, I think they're going to push Turkey to seriously reconsider its allegiance to NATO. We'll have to wait and see how Turkey responds.

[Haykakan]

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Damn... if they're really serious about this, I think they're going to push Turkey to seriously reconsider its allegiance to NATO. We'll have to wait and see how Turkey responds.

How would putting up defencive missles in turckey hurt nato relations with it? Turckey will welcome this move, what country wouldnt want these missles on its own territory.

[KanadaHye]

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How would putting up defencive missles in turckey hurt nato relations with it? Turckey will welcome this move, what country wouldnt want these missles on its own territory.

Those that don't want to be a Russian target? Let's get real, this has nothing to do with Iran firing missiles on U.S. territory. This is nothing more than extended Israeli defense.

[Haykakan]

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Turcks are already a russian target and have been for hundreds of years. The missles are just another presence of us military force in the region and yeh usa military force means isreali military force, cant argue that.

[jgk3]

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Turcks are already a russian target and have been for hundreds of years. The missles are just another presence of us military force in the region and yeh usa military force means isreali military force, cant argue that.

Turkey has been careful to cultivate and maintain its economic partnership with the Russian Federation. This has led both nations to have an understanding on what is acceptable in terms of military actions within their shared areas of influence (Caucasus region and Black Sea). If Turkey becomes the main tool of Nato's plan of containing Russia with its missle shield, they will becoming a target of Russia that must be neutralized asap, and not a friendly partner.

I don't understand why you are bringing in archaic, obsolete grievances between the Ottoman Empire and Russia for discussing this modern day scenario concerning NATO and Russia.

[Alexandros]

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US denies giving up on Europe missile shield

Friday, August 28, 2009

WASHINGTON – Agence France-Press

President Barack Obama’s administration denied Thursday a report it was giving up on building American anti-missile bases in Poland and the Czech Republic, plans strongly opposed by Russia.

“I would call that report inaccurate,” State Department spokesman P.J. Crowley told reporters. “Our review of our missile defense strategy is ongoing and has not reached completion yet.”

Citing officials and lobbyists in Washington, leading Polish daily Gazeta Wyborcza said the United States was scrapping plans to build the bases in Poland and the Czech Republic and was looking at alternatives including Israel and Turkey.

Former president George W. Bush’s administration came up with the missile defense plan, saying it was aimed at protecting against attacks from so-called rogue states such as Iran.

Russia responded furiously at what it saw as an encroachment in the former Soviet bloc and threatened to train nuclear warheads on Poland and the Czech Republic.

Bush’s successor President Barack Obama, who has tried to “reset” relations with Russia, launched a review of the controversial system after taking office earlier this year.

Meanwhile, Turkish Foreign Minister Ahmet Davutoğlu denied any request made to Turkey for the deployment of the ant-ballistic missiles.

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[Haykakan]

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Turkey has been careful to cultivate and maintain its economic partnership with the Russian Federation. This has led both nations to have an understanding on what is acceptable in terms of military actions within their shared areas of influence (Caucasus region and Black Sea). If Turkey becomes the main tool of Nato's plan of containing Russia with its missle shield, they will becoming a target of Russia that must be neutralized asap, and not a friendly partner.

I don't understand why you are bringing in archaic, obsolete grievances between the Ottoman Empire and Russia for discussing this modern day scenario concerning NATO and Russia.

The problems between russia and turckey are still the same, they are both fighting for influence and control over the same areas thus the grievances are old but hardly obsolete. Things like oil and nato add fuel to the fire. Sure turckish-russian relations probably have never been so good but the underlying main issues due largely to geopolitical facts are still there and as long as they are there these powers will always be more enemies then friends.