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Re: The Rise of the Russian Empire: Russo-Armenian Relations
Notice the subtle yet significant differences in the reporting styles of Russia and America when it comes to the Armenian Genocide. When an official Russian source mentions an event relating to the Armenian Genocide, it is unmistakably presented as the "Armenian Genocide". However, when an American news source, including CIA funded propaganda outlets such as Radio Liberty (the Armenian division of which is run by "proud" Armenians from the Dashnaktsutyun) mentions anything about the Armenian Genocide, the term Genocide is almost always placed in quotation marks and the other side of the story is presented as well. Yet we still have fools that drop their pants and bend-over with hope every single year in Washington... And the excuses given by these proud American-Armenians about to why the American press chooses to undermine and/or ignore the Armenian Genocide is pathetic, to say the least.The excuse is always - America's "national interests."
Well, imagine the public outcry, the severe indignation, the out-pouring of raw anger by us Armenians had another important political player in the region that portrays itself as a defender of democracy and human rights and/or a friend of Armenians, had been working actively against our Hay Dat for their self-serving "interest"... Imagine the fury if Moscow was working against our recognition efforts... It seems that Washington is the only political entity on earth today we Armenians voluntarily and persistently make excuses for. When it come to Washington, or xxxs for that matter, we Armenians understand, we Armenian can wait, we Armenians are hopeful, we Armenians are grateful...
We Armenians are pathetic!
Last I checked, Moscow was trying very hard to move closer to Turkey and encourage Ankara to move away from the Atlantic alliance... Last I checked, Moscow considered Turkey an important regional player it wanted to have good relations with... Last I checked, Turkey controlled one of Russia's most vital trade routes, the Dardanelles... Last I checked, Moscow provided Turkey with over fifty percent of Turkey's energy needs... Last I checked, Turkey was one of Russia's biggest trading partners... Last I checked, tens of thousands of Russians were tanning themselves on Turkish beaches all along the Mediterranean... Moscow has just as many interests in Turkey, if not more, than Washington and Tel Aviv. So why isn't Moscow pathetically kissing Turkish asses like Washington and Tel Aviv do on a regular basis? And why isn't Ankara threatening Moscow on a regular basis?
Logic would dictate that Moscow has every reason in the "political interests" book to ignore and/or undermine the Armenian Genocide like Washington/Tel Aviv does. Since Russia has important interests and strategic ties with Ankara, why is it that the Russian Duma continues to recognize the Armenian Genocide? Why is it that Russia's official press continues to treat the Armenian Genocide as a historical fact? Why is it that Putin, Medvedev, Lavrov, Ivanov... and now, the Russian Patriarch Kirill have visited the Armenian Genocide memorial? The reality of the matter is Russians don't really have to do us Armenians any favors simply because Armenia exists today as a result of Russian presence in the Caucasus. But by not doing us Armenians any favors Moscow can actually have a freer hand in encouraging Ankara to move closer to Moscow; and through it all Armenia would still not have the option of breaking away from its total dependence on Moscow.
So, taking all these nuances into consideration, why does Moscow continue towing the Armenian line when it comes to a topic that has no real political value for it, despite clear advantages for it if it stops doing so? Is it perhaps because the Russian Federation sees Armenia as a natural partner, a natural ally that needs to be nurtured and protected, unlike Washington that sees everything as dollar signs and would even sell its mother to the highest bidder (of course none of this applies to Washington's relationship with Israel which is a symbiotic relationship, for the two cannot live without each other). I think our many Russophobic "nationalists" in America and elsewhere seriously need to think about this one.
Can any one of you imagine the orgasmic euphoria Armenians in America would have felt had a high ranking official from Washington... wait, strike that. Can any one of you imagine the orgasmic euphoria Armenians in America would have felt had virtually 'anybody' from Maryland visited Tsitsernakaberd? To think of all our limited resources and efforts being wasted by our idiots in America in a corrupt place like Washington is sicking. To tell you the truth, as far as I'm concerned, it is immensely more important for the Russian Federation to continue recognizing the Armenian Genocide than it is for Washington. Instead of wasting time writing letters to American politicians and begging them for favors, American-Armenians would do better if they wrote letters of appreciation to the Russian Duma.
Armenian
The head of the Russian Orthodox Church paid tribute on Wednesday to the victims of Armenian genocide, laying flowers to a memorial in the South Caucasus country's capital Yerevan.Turkey has always refused to recognize the killings of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians in the dying days of the Ottoman Empire in 1915 as an act of genocide. A number of countries have recognized the killings in Armenia as the first genocide of the 20th century. Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia began a three-day visit to Armenia on Tuesday to meet the country's leadership and lay the foundation of a new Russian church. Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin II, who leads the Armenian Apostolic Church, also laid flowers to the Tsitsernakaberd memorial dedicated to the victims of the genocide. Armenian priests then held a short service for the dead. Kirill called on the Russian community in Yerevan to study Armenian and to actively integrate into society. "I am calling on you to be active members of Armenian society, to make your contribution to its culture, to study the language so that nothing prevents you from actively participating in the country's public life," the Russian Church leader told hundreds of Russians who gathered in Yerevan's main Russian Orthodox church. The patriarch said Christian roots are "the firmest basis for good relations" between Armenia and Russia and thanked Garegin II for promoting good relations with the Russian people. He also thanked Armenia for its respectful attitude toward the Russian language. More than 90% of Armenians belong to the Armenian Apostolic Church, which is in dialogue but not in communion with most Eastern Orthodox Churches, including Russian, due to certain dogmatic differences.
Source: http://en.rian.ru/Religion/20100317/158229365.html
In related news:
Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia received on Wednesday the highest award of the Armenian Apostolic Church - the Order of St. Gregory the Illuminator. St. Gregory, also known as Gregory the Enlightener, is credited with having converted Armenia to Christianity over 1,700 years ago. The award was given to the head of the Russian Orthodox Church in the Yerevan cathedral dedicated to the saint. Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan attended the ceremony. Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin II, who heads the Armenian Church, said the award was a token of fraternal love and respect from Armenians worldwide. More than 90% of Armenians belong to the Armenian Apostolic Church, which is in dialogue but not in communion with most Eastern Orthodox Churches, including Russian, due to certain dogmatic differences. Patriarch Kirill began a three-day visit to Armenia on Tuesday to meet the country's leadership and lay the foundation of a new Russian church. On Wednesday he paid tribute to the victims of Armenian genocide, laying flowers to a memorial in the South Caucasus country's capital. Turkey has always refused to recognize the killings of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians in the dying days of the Ottoman Empire in 1915 as an act of genocide. A number of countries have recognized the killings in Armenia as the first genocide of the 20th century.
Source: http://en.rian.ru/Religion/20100317/158230919.html
Notice the subtle yet significant differences in the reporting styles of Russia and America when it comes to the Armenian Genocide. When an official Russian source mentions an event relating to the Armenian Genocide, it is unmistakably presented as the "Armenian Genocide". However, when an American news source, including CIA funded propaganda outlets such as Radio Liberty (the Armenian division of which is run by "proud" Armenians from the Dashnaktsutyun) mentions anything about the Armenian Genocide, the term Genocide is almost always placed in quotation marks and the other side of the story is presented as well. Yet we still have fools that drop their pants and bend-over with hope every single year in Washington... And the excuses given by these proud American-Armenians about to why the American press chooses to undermine and/or ignore the Armenian Genocide is pathetic, to say the least.The excuse is always - America's "national interests."
Well, imagine the public outcry, the severe indignation, the out-pouring of raw anger by us Armenians had another important political player in the region that portrays itself as a defender of democracy and human rights and/or a friend of Armenians, had been working actively against our Hay Dat for their self-serving "interest"... Imagine the fury if Moscow was working against our recognition efforts... It seems that Washington is the only political entity on earth today we Armenians voluntarily and persistently make excuses for. When it come to Washington, or xxxs for that matter, we Armenians understand, we Armenian can wait, we Armenians are hopeful, we Armenians are grateful...
We Armenians are pathetic!
Last I checked, Moscow was trying very hard to move closer to Turkey and encourage Ankara to move away from the Atlantic alliance... Last I checked, Moscow considered Turkey an important regional player it wanted to have good relations with... Last I checked, Turkey controlled one of Russia's most vital trade routes, the Dardanelles... Last I checked, Moscow provided Turkey with over fifty percent of Turkey's energy needs... Last I checked, Turkey was one of Russia's biggest trading partners... Last I checked, tens of thousands of Russians were tanning themselves on Turkish beaches all along the Mediterranean... Moscow has just as many interests in Turkey, if not more, than Washington and Tel Aviv. So why isn't Moscow pathetically kissing Turkish asses like Washington and Tel Aviv do on a regular basis? And why isn't Ankara threatening Moscow on a regular basis?
Logic would dictate that Moscow has every reason in the "political interests" book to ignore and/or undermine the Armenian Genocide like Washington/Tel Aviv does. Since Russia has important interests and strategic ties with Ankara, why is it that the Russian Duma continues to recognize the Armenian Genocide? Why is it that Russia's official press continues to treat the Armenian Genocide as a historical fact? Why is it that Putin, Medvedev, Lavrov, Ivanov... and now, the Russian Patriarch Kirill have visited the Armenian Genocide memorial? The reality of the matter is Russians don't really have to do us Armenians any favors simply because Armenia exists today as a result of Russian presence in the Caucasus. But by not doing us Armenians any favors Moscow can actually have a freer hand in encouraging Ankara to move closer to Moscow; and through it all Armenia would still not have the option of breaking away from its total dependence on Moscow.
So, taking all these nuances into consideration, why does Moscow continue towing the Armenian line when it comes to a topic that has no real political value for it, despite clear advantages for it if it stops doing so? Is it perhaps because the Russian Federation sees Armenia as a natural partner, a natural ally that needs to be nurtured and protected, unlike Washington that sees everything as dollar signs and would even sell its mother to the highest bidder (of course none of this applies to Washington's relationship with Israel which is a symbiotic relationship, for the two cannot live without each other). I think our many Russophobic "nationalists" in America and elsewhere seriously need to think about this one.
Can any one of you imagine the orgasmic euphoria Armenians in America would have felt had a high ranking official from Washington... wait, strike that. Can any one of you imagine the orgasmic euphoria Armenians in America would have felt had virtually 'anybody' from Maryland visited Tsitsernakaberd? To think of all our limited resources and efforts being wasted by our idiots in America in a corrupt place like Washington is sicking. To tell you the truth, as far as I'm concerned, it is immensely more important for the Russian Federation to continue recognizing the Armenian Genocide than it is for Washington. Instead of wasting time writing letters to American politicians and begging them for favors, American-Armenians would do better if they wrote letters of appreciation to the Russian Duma.
Armenian
Russian Patriarch Visits Armenian Genocide Memorial in Yerevan
The head of the Russian Orthodox Church paid tribute on Wednesday to the victims of Armenian genocide, laying flowers to a memorial in the South Caucasus country's capital Yerevan.Turkey has always refused to recognize the killings of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians in the dying days of the Ottoman Empire in 1915 as an act of genocide. A number of countries have recognized the killings in Armenia as the first genocide of the 20th century. Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia began a three-day visit to Armenia on Tuesday to meet the country's leadership and lay the foundation of a new Russian church. Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin II, who leads the Armenian Apostolic Church, also laid flowers to the Tsitsernakaberd memorial dedicated to the victims of the genocide. Armenian priests then held a short service for the dead. Kirill called on the Russian community in Yerevan to study Armenian and to actively integrate into society. "I am calling on you to be active members of Armenian society, to make your contribution to its culture, to study the language so that nothing prevents you from actively participating in the country's public life," the Russian Church leader told hundreds of Russians who gathered in Yerevan's main Russian Orthodox church. The patriarch said Christian roots are "the firmest basis for good relations" between Armenia and Russia and thanked Garegin II for promoting good relations with the Russian people. He also thanked Armenia for its respectful attitude toward the Russian language. More than 90% of Armenians belong to the Armenian Apostolic Church, which is in dialogue but not in communion with most Eastern Orthodox Churches, including Russian, due to certain dogmatic differences.
Source: http://en.rian.ru/Religion/20100317/158229365.html
In related news:
Russian Patriarch Given Armenian Church's Highest Honor
Patriarch Kirill of Moscow and All Russia received on Wednesday the highest award of the Armenian Apostolic Church - the Order of St. Gregory the Illuminator. St. Gregory, also known as Gregory the Enlightener, is credited with having converted Armenia to Christianity over 1,700 years ago. The award was given to the head of the Russian Orthodox Church in the Yerevan cathedral dedicated to the saint. Armenian President Serzh Sargsyan attended the ceremony. Catholicos of All Armenians Garegin II, who heads the Armenian Church, said the award was a token of fraternal love and respect from Armenians worldwide. More than 90% of Armenians belong to the Armenian Apostolic Church, which is in dialogue but not in communion with most Eastern Orthodox Churches, including Russian, due to certain dogmatic differences. Patriarch Kirill began a three-day visit to Armenia on Tuesday to meet the country's leadership and lay the foundation of a new Russian church. On Wednesday he paid tribute to the victims of Armenian genocide, laying flowers to a memorial in the South Caucasus country's capital. Turkey has always refused to recognize the killings of an estimated 1.5 million Armenians in the dying days of the Ottoman Empire in 1915 as an act of genocide. A number of countries have recognized the killings in Armenia as the first genocide of the 20th century.
Source: http://en.rian.ru/Religion/20100317/158230919.html
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