Armenian-Turkish Relations

[Kanki]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Hey I am a Turk! And this topic about Turkish-Armenian relations! Let's make our communication! Show your documents about 1915 events .In Turkey, Armenian genocide is called so-called , so I want to see your real documents. Photos,and historical archieves about the genocide. I want to listen your voice...I have been educating with Turkish sources but I wanna know Armenian sources too...

[Mos]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

relations with Turkey? please only those Armenians who want their "identity" to be favored by the Western world and be "accepted" by them want that. any real Armenian knows that good relations with Turkey will never exist and even if they kiss our feet in begging our forgiveness. because some Armenians know Turkey is an ally to America and they want to be accepted by the American people so much that they will want Armenia to have good relations with Turkey. I personally don't care about America and its interests, only Armenia is the country I will give up my life for and is the only country in this world that I really care about.

[dani87]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Exactly and how would you convince the more natinalistic portion of the Diaspora to go back to Armenia? By convincing them they are still second class citizens and need to leave the Middle-East. The Armenians in Syria, Lebannon, and Iran are very important to the Armenian cause because they still have a strong Anti-Turkish sentiments and are nationalistic. When they go to Europe and America, they adopt liberal ideologies via education system and media, thus, forgetting the importance of being Armenian and defending Armenian values, they just stagnate and eventually assimilate (Actually, the recent trend is to adapt, which leads to more problems). The Middle-Eastern Armenian Diaspora is still raw, these Armenians still have some fight in them, we need to export them to Armenia instead of western states. The Armenians in western states are soft, they don't have a fighting will, they need to assimilate and move on with their lives because they are not doing squat for the Armenian people. Understand "foreign aid" and or "foreign money" does not benefit the Armenian people, it just makes them more dependent on the Diaspora, when in fact they have to self sufficient.

Conversly, American-Armenians and European Armenians are for the most a handjob of the state, they are brainwashed with foreign values (Which for the most part, destroy any love for themselves) and their lives are heavly integrated in the economic, politic, and social fabric of the respective western states they immigrated to, therefore, they are soft and useless to the Armenian people, we don't need them in Armenia and frankly, I don't think they have it in them to move back to Armenia. This is the reality I have come to, by the time Armenian-American xyz gets to adult age he has already betrayed all the core Armenian core values, there is nothing for him to defend and furthermore, he has tasted the "luxories" of these states and is not willing to give them up for the good of his people.

I must say you really said some great stuff here. Middle - Eastern Armenians are very patriotic Armenians. And just as you said most European and American Armenians get quite lame tx to "western ideals".

[Kanki]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

relations with Turkey? please only those Armenians who want their "identity" to be favored by the Western world and be "accepted" by them want that. any real Armenian knows that good relations with Turkey will never exist and even if they kiss our feet in begging our forgiveness. because some Armenians know Turkey is an ally to America and they want to be accepted by the American people so much that they will want Armenia to have good relations with Turkey. I personally don't care about America and its interests, only Armenia is the country I will give up my life for and is the only country in this world that I really care about.

You are in wrong! Turkey is ally with America but we don't really want to be accepted by the American people... We don't like American people,and it is not very important for us! Because "Turks haven't got a real ally nation without Turkish bloody nations" Every Turks think so...
US wants to be good relations with us! If you ask me, do you like American? I say "no" because United States use Turkish Government as a bridge for their plans...In addition they accepted North Iraq operation,because they didn't want to lost their toy or bridge!!!
You said also "they will want Armenia to good relations"
If Turks want to have good relations with you,It can only be one- sided! So it is impossible.... If Turkey accept "Genocide" relations will never turn better again.Because You always want our east parts!! And I want to say somethings about this...
Turkish Nation are in Anatolia more than 1000 years.. And mixed with local people! Not pure with Central Asian Turks! And many Turks have Armenian and Greek blood also Kurdish blood!
and second, If you say "go back mongolia" you must also say Americans turn back Europe, or Mexicans,Brazils turn back Europe!!! Because American Lands belongs to Amerindians!!!! so it is very ridiculous, isn't it!!!
And no change in our life, good or bad relations!

[Mos]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

You are in wrong! Turkey is ally with America but we don't really want to be accepted by the American people... We don't like American people,and it is not very important for us! Because "Turks haven't got a real ally nation without Turkish bloody nations" Every Turks think so...
US wants to be good relations with us! If you ask me, do you like American? I say "no" because United States use Turkish Government as a bridge for their plans...In addition they accepted North Iraq operation,because they didn't want to lost their toy or bridge!!!
You said also "they will want Armenia to good relations"
If Turks want to have good relations with you,It can only be one- sided! So it is impossible.... If Turkey accept "Genocide" relations will never turn better again.Because You always want our east parts!! And I want to say somethings about this...
Turkish Nation are in Anatolia more than 1000 years.. And mixed with local people! Not pure with Central Asian Turks! And many Turks have Armenian and Greek blood also Kurdish blood!
and second, If you say "go back mongolia" you must also say Americans turn back Europe, or Mexicans,Brazils turn back Europe!!! Because American Lands belongs to Amerindians!!!! so it is very ridiculous, isn't it!!!
And no change in our life, good or bad relations!

Look to make a long story short, The Turkish civilization has been a parasite in the eyes of humanity.

[Kanki]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Look to make a long story short, The Turksh civilization has been a parasite in the eyes of humanity.

we???? are we a parasite of humanity???

You can talk! Armenians try to get good relations with Russia,USA,France,Belgium,Switchzerland,Brazil and many countries with adulatory! you are a parasite for The world!
But don't forget! USA and Russia are a rivals for themselves, Either of them or Both of them can blow the whistle on agent! For instance, in Stalin age, socialist Russian Goverment provide diaspora Armenians to come back and tried to use your nation to occupy our east and northeast parts..But failed, after that Russian goverment blow the whistle on Armenians as a secret western agent who came from western states.. your people were banished to Sibiria!! Don't trust Russia or others and us too
Hey, by the way I have heard on news "Armenia want to "Sevr League" perform!!!
Is it possible???? Forget it! 2.975.000 populated Armenia can not defate 72.825.000 populated Turkey! Also Greece 13.725 populated!! Also we have
more young people and more powerful soldiers And You should include 7.000.000 populated Azerbejian and South Azerbejian (25.000.000 Populated)
If we want to occupy your land, I will be finished an half day!
But Turkish Nation doesn't want to fight with Armenia or others...Why don't you give up your aggressive politics ?
And also No Turk is alive from 1915 as we are youngs and we are not responsible for history

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

we???? are we a parasite of humanity???

You can talk! Armenians try to get good relations with Russia,USA,France,Belgium,Switchzerland,Brazil and many countries with adulatory! you are a parasite for The world!
But don't forget! USA and Russia are a rivals for themselves, Either of them or Both of them can blow the whistle on agent! For instance, in Stalin age, socialist Russian Goverment provide diaspora Armenians to come back and tried to use your nation to occupy our east and northeast parts..But failed, after that Russian goverment blow the whistle on Armenians as a secret western agent who came from western states.. your people were banished to Sibiria!! Don't trust Russia or others and us too
Hey, by the way I have heard on news "Armenia want to "Sevr League" perform!!!
Is it possible???? Forget it! 2.975.000 populated Armenia can not defate 72.825.000 populated Turkey! Also Greece 13.725 populated!! Also we have
more young people and more powerful soldiers And You should include 7.000.000 populated Azerbejian and South Azerbejian (25.000.000 Populated)
If we want to occupy your land, I will be finished an half day!
But Turkish Nation doesn't want to fight with Armenia or others...Why don't you give up your aggressive politics ?
And also No Turk is alive from 1915 as we are youngs and we are not responsible for history

An other stupid Turk who doesn't know anything about history or politics. Turkey is a parasite to the world for the past 900 years. Killing and destroying cities never build one only destroyed.

And the only reason why stalin din't invade was that America was your Ally and would Soviet cities if they invaded. That's the only reason why he didn't invade. And that talk he send Armenians to Sebiria because the invasion didn't
occure is stupid. He sended evrey one there who was against him and his regime not only Armenians.

Do you really think you can invade Armenia and win, you don't know how stupid that sounds. try and cross the border and you'll see what happens lol.

You're just another foolish Turk who doesn't know anything about history or politiczs. Go and crawl under a rock and die.

[Kanki]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

An other stupid Turk who doesn't know anything about history or politics. Turkey is a parasite to the world for the past 900 years. Killing and destroying cities never build one only destroyed.

Haha!! your brain is very washed!
If Turks destroyed cities.. Budapest,Sofia,Athens,Corfu,Baghdat,Juressalam,Kie v, Warsaw,Belgrade,Tirana,Zagreb,Sarajevo,Bucharest,B ratislava,Prague,Sokopje,Malta.....
and many other cities would be no today!!!! And also Greeks,Bulgarians,Albanians,Romans,Hungarians,Ukra inians,YOU,Georgians,Serbs,Makedonians,Araps,Pales tinians would be no, If we were killing! For example Greeks were ur citizens more tahn 550 years, Bulgarians more than 600 years, Albanians were more tahn 430 years ,Hungarians more than 150 years,Polsks were more than 50 years, Ukranians more than 200 years!


You don't know any history! And Turks teached Europeans "bathing" and "toilet" Europeans are famous with wet to walls and palaces with out toilet and bathroom!! For instance" Versailles in France" We learned Europeans and Araps "baths culture" and Turkish bath is commen many foreign countries!

Learn history and talk me later!

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

Haha!! your brain is very washed!
If Turks destroyed cities.. Budapest,Sofia,Athens,Corfu,Baghdat,Juressalam,Kie v, Warsaw,Belgrade,Tirana,Zagreb,Sarajevo,Bucharest,B ratislava,Prague,Sokopje,Malta.....
and many other cities would be no today!!!! And also Greeks,Bulgarians,Albanians,Romans,Hungarians,Ukra inians,YOU,Georgians,Serbs,Makedonians,Araps,Pales tinians would be no, If we were killing! For example Greeks were ur citizens more tahn 550 years, Bulgarians more than 600 years, Albanians were more tahn 430 years ,Hungarians more than 150 years,Polsks were more than 50 years, Ukranians more than 200 years!


You don't know any history! And Turks teached Europeans "bathing" and "toilet" Europeans are famous with wet to walls and palaces with out toilet and bathroom!! For instance" Versailles in France" We learned Europeans and Araps "baths culture" and Turkish bath is commen many foreign countries!

Learn history and talk me later!

LOL I think the romans and greeks knew how too bath and celts even had the soap, so don't see how you taught them anything. You xxxxers were xxxxing nomads you din't even know how to build a city. You can only conquer cities from greater civalizations.

The toilet existed before the Turks, again the omans and greeks and even before that.

You tried to kill us, remember the genocide. I would say go and learn history that is not written by the turkish goverment

[Kanki]

Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

LOL I think the romans and greeks knew how too bath and celts even had the soap, so don't see how you taught them anything. You xxxxers were xxxxing nomads you din't even know how to build a city. You can only conquer cities from greater civalizations.

The toilet existed before the Turks, again the omans and greeks and even before that.

You tried to kill us, remember the genocide. I would say go and learn history that is not written by the turkish goverment

I give other example about "building cities"
Look this

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stari_most

second Observe Balkania!!!
Belgrade is created by Ottoman Turks not serbs. Serbs destroyed Ottoman mosques but other Ottoman buildings are used today in Belgrade.
In Bulgaria,Many cities named Turkish...When Ottomans occupy Bulgaria Bulgarians were containing ONLY about 200.000 tents there were not important buildings with out Roma Buildings! Ottomans created Bulgarian cities for 630 years.
We protect all the historical buildings, If we not no greek mito. buildings would be no! You are in wrong!

I don't know 1915 events, Because I borned in 1989. 74 years after.... and I have never killed an Armenian and my parents too.. So I am not responsible! If my government accept to your genocide. Nothing is change! Because 1915 Turkish people pass away!!