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  • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

    My friends I already accept armenian genocide(and I am saying it in Turkey too.)

    I do not need(or want) understanding of armenian because I believe armenians have no capacity to understand turks..

    we are just wasting our time at internet. You are giving much importance to internet and I am not patriot. Unlike You, I can refuse words of my goverment or my nation, If It is against my ideals and I said it before, I am neutral about AG campaign because You dont deserve my support.(acording to me.) I could fight for your ancestors but absolutely not for you.
    Last edited by Palavra; 12-18-2008, 11:08 AM.

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    • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

      If you're not a patriot, start by refusing your government money and participation. No? You can't? I guess you are a patriot then. An honest, bureaucratic citizen seeking to uphold the economy driven political system that is his nation. It's an embarrassing kind of patriotism, isn't it. Where's the patri in modern patriotism anyway? It's a concept robbed of its virility, perfect for common tax payers.

      I'm a patriot right now in this sterile sense to Canada. My project is to opt out of it in a holistic sense and well prepared manner.
      Last edited by jgk3; 12-18-2008, 11:11 AM.

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      • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

        Unrelated. Even armenian citizen of Turkey pay taxes. Maybe You should persuade them first..

        I said I am not patriot, I did not say, I am against my country and I will flee from my responsibilities. I will not fight for it If She is the one who is doing mistake(like AG issues.) but I will not fight against it too.

        Afterall, I am not fighting against other unjust states too..

        I see giving tax as my responsibility to my people not my support for my state or goverment.
        Last edited by Palavra; 12-18-2008, 11:16 AM.

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        • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

          Good point. In my eyes, aside from certain commonalities in culture, they're very similar to turks, just repressed due to their denomination.

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          • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

            Armenians in Turkey are culturally not similar to Turks(because there is not a common Turkish culture except religion. Turks are a bunch of different people who call themself as Turk.) but istanbul armenians are culturally more similar to ottoman cultures than me.

            Problem is that they are christian and call themself as armenians. It is against root of turkish society. Become muslim and call yourself as Turk. I have no problem with this. I am a religious one and I do not care If I am turk, greek or armenian. So I call myself as Turk.

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            • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

              Commonalities in culture I meant towards other Armenians. Though it's an interesting point you made about how they are "more Ottoman" than Turks.

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              • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                i just been enlightened so Turkey still remains an emprire.
                Be a muslim,no mater of ur origin,belive in the country that u live.
                W8 maybe Turkey its in some whay some kind of american idol state.
                Its a perfect empire in power.
                But w8 did u know that Turkey have some isues about Kurds and the split of west Turkey and east!!Is it fair?
                Turkey have democratic constitution how comes it makes discrimination at his citizens?

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                • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                  As human beings, we can get along fine, but as far as I'm concerned, the civilizations of "Turk" and "Armenian" don't mix, the former represents the rape and defeat of the latter.

                  We will not abandon our civilization in the name of "friendship" for this reason.

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                  • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                    Originally posted by jgk3 View Post
                    As human beings, we can get along fine, but as far as I'm concerned, the civilizations of "Turk" and "Armenian" don't mix, the former represents the rape and defeat of the latter.

                    We will not abandon our civilization in the name of "friendship" for this reason.
                    Well said.

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                    • Re: Armenian-Turkish Relations

                      deep down inside, every member of this forum harbors some kind of burning love for turks. no matter how bad things get, turks are in your hearts forever. i know it and you know its true.

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