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  • Haykakan
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    TURKEY SHOULDN'T NEGLECT AZERBAIJAN'S INTERESTS, US DIPLOMAT SAYS

    PanARMENIAN.Net
    01.02.2010 11:48 GMT+04:00

    /PanARMENIAN.Net/ Former U.S. Assistant Secretary of State, Chairman of
    American Turkish Council's (ATC) Board of Directors, Richard Armitage
    stated that Turkey should not neglect Azerbaijani interests in the
    process of normalization of relations with Armenia.

    Commenting on the ongoing Turkey-Armenia dialogue to VOA News,
    Armitage said that the U.S. administration supports this initiative.

    "I am not sure whether Turkish Parliament will ratify Zurich protocols
    or not, but the initiative towards normalization of relations with
    Armenia cannot be underestimated. On the other hand, Turkey should not
    damage Azerbaijan's interests. I know that our Azerbaijani friends
    get surprised at the speed of the process. Besides, they are not
    being well informed on this issue. The ties with Azerbaijan should
    be repaired," he said.

    As to adoption of the Armenian Genocide resolution in the
    U.S. Congress, Armitage said, "Yes, I am concerned about that a
    bit. The Armenian Diaspora is strong, especially in California. This
    is a political reality in United States. I have worries about the
    probability of revival of the genocide resolution. But I hope the
    Armenian Diaspora will be farsighted and will show an appropriate
    attitude, realizing how difficult the mission of Turkish government
    is."

    The Armenian Genocide (1915-23) was the deliberate and systematic
    destruction of the Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire during
    and just after World War I. It was characterized by massacres, and
    deportations involving forced marches under conditions designed to
    lead to the death of the deportees, with the total number of deaths
    reaching 1.5 million.

    The date of the onset of the genocide is conventionally held to be
    April 24, 1915, the day that Ottoman authorities arrested some 250
    Armenian intellectuals and community leaders in Constantinople.

    Thereafter, the Ottoman military uprooted Armenians from their homes
    and forced them to march for hundreds of miles, depriving them of
    food and water, to the desert of what is now Syria.

    To date, twenty countries and 44 U.S. states have officially recognized
    the events of the period as genocide, and most genocide scholars
    and historians accept this view. The Armenian Genocide has been also
    recognized by influential media including The New York Times, BBC,
    The Washington Post and The Associated Press.

    The majority of Armenian Diaspora communities were formed by the
    Genocide survivors.

    The Armenian Genocide resolution (H.Res. 106) was submitted to the
    House of Representatives by Representative Adam Schiff (D-CA), on
    January 30, 2007, during the 110th United States Congress. It was
    a non-binding resolution calling upon the US President to ensure
    that the foreign policy of the United States reflects appropriate
    understanding and sensitivity concerning issues related to human
    rights, ethnic cleansing, and genocide documented in the United States
    record relating to the Armenian Genocide, and for other purposes. Upon
    its introduction it was referred to United States House Committee
    on Foreign Affairs where it passed a 27-21 vote and was sent back
    for a full house vote. On October 26, 2007, in a letter addressed
    to the House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, four key sponsors of the bill,
    requested a debate on the bill in full House to be postponed.

    In 2009, another congressional resolution affirming the U.S. record
    on the Armenian Genocide (H.Res.252) was been formally introduced
    in the U.S. House of Representatives by Reps. Adam Schiff (D.-CA),
    George Radanovich (R.-CA), Frank Pallone, Jr. (D.-NJ), and Mark Kirk
    (R.-Ill). It currently has 134 co-sponsors.

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  • KanadaHye
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    Turkey Warns Deal With Armenia Could Collapse
    01 February 2010

    LONDON — Efforts to reconcile Turkey and Armenia and open their common border could fail unless the process is carried out "properly," Turkey's foreign minister said Friday.

    "If we are not convinced that the process is being carried out properly. There is no possibility to carry it forward," Ahmet Davutoglu told Turkish journalists in London.

    Davutoglu's warning is the strongest response yet from Turkey to an Armenian court ruling in January that has cast doubt over accords signed in October. The Constitutional Court reaffirmed the Armenian government's obligation to seek recognition of the World War I mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks as genocide — a term vehemently rejected by Turkey.

    http://www.themoscowtimes.com/news/a...se/398667.html

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  • Armanen
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    Originally posted by garod View Post
    It’s Turkey, Not Armenia, That’s Hindering Rapprochement: Amberin Zaman

    Ankara doesn’t stand behind its signature on the Armenian-Turkish Protocols, said Turkey correspondent for The Economist and Taraf columnist, Amberin Zaman, who also happens to be married to U.S. Embassy in Armenia’s Deputy Chief of Mission Joseph Pennington.

    “Turkey’s foreign minister Ahmet Davutoglu said the following to his Armenian counterpart, Edward Nalbandian: ‘Stand behind your signature on the Protocol. We expect a display of political will from the Armenian side. Otherwise, a completely new situation will arise.’ However, it’s Turkey who isn’t standing behind their signature,” said Zaman, adding that though there was no clause in the Protocols which referred to Nagorno-Karabakh, Turkey has nevertheless connected that issue with the process of establishing Armenia-Turkey relations.

    The Taraf columnist also noted that such a situation wouldn’t have come about if the Protocols were implemented immediately. “If instead of presenting the Protocols in parliament, they were put into effect, this unpleasant ‘new state of affairs’ wouldn’t have come about, and the process wouldn’t have been hindered,” writes Zaman, adding that the final point to this issue was that after the United States, Russia made a statement that the establishment of Armenia-Turkey relations shouldn’t be tied to the resolution of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.

    Source :http://www.tert.am/en/news/2010/01/22/amberini/

    This is the second american state department official who is/has been involved with/in Armenia and has a turkish wife. The other being matt 'the c*ck' bryza.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by egeli View Post
    So inclusive, that it was compulsory. Kemalism has only one true motto : "Happy who CALLS himself a Turk.
    "Happy who can call himself a Turk" - unhappiness and death to all in Turkey who either don't want to, or who Kemalist say aren't entitled to.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
    I find it funny you are somehow suspicious because I can type ü, ç, ş, or even ə...what's the big problem?

    I believe you think I'm Turkish or Azeri, which I sincerely don't know why. If you don't believe me, ask for someone to check my IP on my location or I don't know...having X fonts does not mean you are X person or live in X place.
    The standard Armenian response here to anything not liked is to accuse the person of secretly being a Turk. But in this case I think they are just incredulous that a poster actually wants to be so careful and accurate.

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  • bell-the-cat
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    Originally posted by egeli View Post
    Mustafa Kemal was extremly opposed to pan-Turanism. Do you know why Enver, Talat, and Cemal Pasha all died outside of Turkey? They were expelled by Mustafa Kemal for being ideologically opposed to his principles.
    None of them were expelled by Ataturk! To avoid arrest for their many crimes they got on a German boat shortly before the Ottoman Empire surrendered and, silently and secretly, fled the country to live in Germany.

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  • ashot24
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    Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
    You can have installed fonts, but using the special characters is kind of problematic without having proper keybord. Dont think some one who dose not speak (type) turkish will use it.
    Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
    No wonder one of them (and not last) is turkish....
    I find it funny you are somehow suspicious because I can type ü, ç, ş, or even ə...what's the big problem?

    I believe you think I'm Turkish or Azeri, which I sincerely don't know why. If you don't believe me, ask for someone to check my IP on my location or I don't know...having X fonts does not mean you are X person or live in X place.

    Besides, learning to read and write any of the special characters used in different alphabets based on the Latin script is not hard at all, you know?
    Last edited by ashot24; 01-26-2010, 11:15 AM.

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  • Mukuch
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    Originally posted by ashot24 View Post
    Haha it's no Turkish keyboard, is an special Latin keyboard which is able to type special characters used in many languages. I can write in a lot of languages actually.
    No wonder one of them (and not last) is turkish....

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  • Mukuch
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    Originally posted by Federate View Post
    Having X keyboard (font) does not mean you are X person. I have Turkish keyboard/font installed in my computer as well as Armenian, French and English. Any computer can have any font regardless of your location.
    You can have installed fonts, but using the special characters is kind of problematic without having proper keybord. Dont think some one who dose not speak (type) turkish will use it.

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  • Federate
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    Originally posted by Mukuch View Post
    I wonder how one who climes to live in Latin America got a turkish keybord
    Having X keyboard (font) does not mean you are X person. I have Turkish keyboard/font installed in my computer as well as Armenian, French and English. Any computer can have any font regardless of your location.

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