I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

[BARIŞ]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

You should talk to some Greeks and Kurds to start.

I understand why you holy Armenians don't distinguish between war,reaction to rebellion and genocide,because you are not taught of an Empire outlook.There is a sharp difference between innocent xxxs who had been killed out of nothing and rebellious Armenians who had raped Turkish women while men were under millitary service.Besides,empire didn't try to destroy the Armenians unlike that of xxxs,just trying to put and end to a disgusting rebellion.
Nor did Turkey try to destroy Kurds.Some of them,who were disillusioned like rebellious Armenians in 1915, tried to destroy Turkey as rebellious Armenians did in 1915.Maybe you won't believe,but I have a Kurd friend,Aligül, now sitting next to me,and he has nothing to say againist my words about Kurd rebels,as he knows well of that thing.

[BARIŞ]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

Barış Bey,
Your questions are at the level of a school child.

Too unkind

Do you know any smart person who kills his servant who serves him Armenians served Ottomans at a superior level for hundreds of years with their talents, skills, knowledge so why would Ottomans kill such useful people? .

We Turks are always grateful for those Armenians who helped us.As you said there must be a reason other than pure hatred.

But when they claimed independence and threatened the empire's sovereignty.

Then you see the reason.Empire did nothing just out of hatred,unlike some Armenians claim.

Ottomans didnt hasitate to exterminate them..

Empire did not try to externinate Armenians,it was nothing but a disorganized seperation of rebellious Armenians from innocent Turkish women and children(During that period,most of Turks were on millitary service)

This wasnt a racist genocide but a pragmatic genocide..

There had been many rebellions like that of the Armenians.If she had tried to destroy every nation that had rebelled,there would not have been an empire concept.Nor did she exile every rebel.But the intricate fuss during which Armenian rebellion happened required some quick solution.Exiled Armenians that died during 'tehcir',unfortunately died,not because of the aim of genocide,but because of the disorganized execution of the bill,due to the fuss.
The bill that had Armenians exiled during that period is known as 'Tehcir Kanunu'.I suggest that you look for what 'techir' means.

And Ottomans hadn't hesitated in the past to make these kind of massacres, they even slaughtered hundred thousands of Turkish Alevis in the Mid-Eastern Anatolia at the time of Yavuz Sultan Selim. Ottomans were very strict about dominance.

It seems that you don't speak of a genocide.You are right.What happened there was not also a genocide,as the reaction to the rebellion of Armenians was not a genocide,whether for pure hatred or not

[Fedayeen]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

This is really getting old...its like these people are on a mission or something...like j00 students durning crisis in middle east, that go around spreading pro-j00 bullsh!t

[Vagharshapat]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

Barış Bey,
Your questions are at the level of a school child. Why didn't Ottomans massacre Armenians until 1915? Do you know any smart person who kills his servant who serves him? Armenians served Ottomans at a superior level for hundreds of years with their talents, skills, knowledge so why would Ottomans kill such useful people? But when they claimed independence and threatened the empire's sovereignty, Ottomans didnt hasitate to exterminate them. This wasnt a racist genocide but a pragmatic genocide. And Ottomans hadn't hesitated in the past to make these kind of massacres, they even slaughtered hundred thousands of Turkish Alevis in the Mid-Eastern Anatolia at the time of Yavuz Sultan Selim. Ottomans were very strict about dominance.

[Sip]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

What else nation other than Armenians was killed by Ottoman Empire?

You should talk to some Greeks and Kurds to start.

[simonig]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

Like I said, what country in the world likes Turks. They would get a lot of respect if they were to just admit what they did in 1915.

[BARIŞ]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

. They did however take the first born male from every Armenian family. .

I don't want to hurt you but this sounds like a tale

[BARIŞ]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

In the past, the Ottomans were too busy trying to expand their empire. They were killing other people at the time. When expanding outward. You tend to kill your bordering neighbors. It would not make sense to use their army to kill off people that are already living in Turkey. They did however take the first born male from every Armenian family. In the 1890's Sultan Abdul Hamid did kill over 200,000 Armenians and all this is documented in over 200 issues of the New York Times.

What else nation other than Armenians was killed by Ottoman Empire?Those in Palestine were surely in better position when under Ottoman Emp.And you will probably agree that the situation in Middle East,most of which used to be governed by Ottoman Emp. is worse today than it was under Ottoman rule

[simonig]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

In the past, the Ottomans were too busy trying to expanding their empire. They were killing other people at the time. When expanding outward. You tend to kill your bordering neighbors. It would not make sense to use their army to kill off people that are already living in Turkey. They did however take the first born male from every Armenian family. In the 1890's Sultan Abdul Hamid did kill over 200,000 Armenians and all this is documented in over 200 issues of the New York Times.

[BARIŞ]

Re: I am,as a Turk,really sorry for the genocide

No I meant kill yourself. Seriously.

I should wait until Turks grow powerless and there appears a chance to kill many innocent people.Otherwise,I would disgrace the classic Armenian rebellions