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    I haven't heard anything about this. It would be good for Armenia if it joined the EU. And for the other caucasian countries too.

    Do the armenians want to join the european union?

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    Re: Armenia in the EU

    As far as I know, it doesn't. But, at least Turkey will never be part of Europe!

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      Re: Armenia in the EU

      Originally posted by Էլիա View Post
      As far as I know, it doesn't. But, at least Turkey will never be part of Europe!
      I think turkey will join in 20-30 years. And I also think it would be good for the armenians, kurds and so on. But I'm worried that while they reform their country, it will get islamist like iran, and that is not good.

      However this is about armenia. I actually think you have better chances to join than the turks have. But if the turks or azeris join before you do, maybe they will disturb the armenia-EU negotiations. Althogh by then they are probably not as nationalistic, because the EU would never accept such countries.

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        Re: Armenia in the EU

        Originally posted by Iranianazeri View Post
        I think turkey will join in 20-30 years. And I also think it would be good for the armenians, kurds and so on. But I'm worried that while they reform their country, it will get islamist like iran, and that is not good.

        However this is about armenia. I actually think you have better chances to join than the turks have. But if the turks or azeris join before you do, maybe they will disturb the armenia-EU negotiations. Althogh by then they are probably not as nationalistic, because the EU would never accept such countries.
        Why would the EU negotiate with the retarded Turkish government?

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          Re: Armenia in the EU

          Originally posted by Էլիա View Post
          Why would the EU negotiate with the retarded Turkish government?
          Haven't they already planned it for 2014 or something? I believe the EU is trying to firstly reform turkey, and then, maybe, let it join in the future. If turkey gets industrialized the EU will get interested. The economy of turkey is growing rapidly.

          This thread was about armenia though

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            Re: Armenia in the EU

            Originally posted by Iranianazeri View Post
            Haven't they already planned it for 2014 or something? I believe the EU is trying to firstly reform turkey, and then, maybe, let it join in the future. If turkey gets industrialized the EU will get interested. The economy of turkey is growing rapidly.

            This thread was about armenia though
            There is no way a poor country that has a very bad economy like Turkey will be part of the EU, and yes, Turkey's economy is getting worse again...

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              Re: Armenia in the EU

              Originally posted by Էլիա View Post
              There is no way a poor country that has a very bad economy like Turkey will be part of the EU, and yes, Turkey's economy is getting worse again...
              Actually, it's growing. Last year the GDP went up 5,2 %. The GDP of turkey is almost $10 000. But in the future it probably won't be poor.

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                Re: Armenia in the EU

                Originally posted by Iranianazeri View Post
                Actually, it's growing. Last year the GDP went up 5,2 %. The GDP of turkey is almost $10 000. But in the future it probably won't be poor.
                Well, I've heard that the EU doesn't want to add a country like Turkey to Europe... Anyway, back on topic, Armenia's goal is to have the Genocide recognized, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we have to join the EU or anything... and the things Turks always say about "Armenians thinking that their special because their Western civilization" or whatever is wrong, because we're not even saying anything about Europe!

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                  Re: Armenia in the EU

                  Originally posted by Էլիա View Post
                  Well, I've heard that the EU doesn't want to add a country like Turkey to Europe... Anyway, back on topic, Armenia's goal is to have the Genocide recognized, but that doesn't necessarily mean that we have to join the EU or anything... and the things Turks always say about "Armenians thinking that their special because their Western civilization" or whatever is wrong, because we're not even saying anything about Europe!

                  There is opposition against the turks, from for example the christian german government. It's not possible for turkey to join at least for the next 15-25, or maybe even after that. For them to join, they must for example accept the ottoman govermant did cleanse anatolia from armenians.

                  I think it would be very good for armenia if it joined the EU. But I have yet not heard anything about it.

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                  • #10
                    Re: Armenia in the EU

                    Armenia would greatly benefit from joining the EU. The economy would boom, and they would have gauranteed military protection. The downside of this is that many Armenians might leave Armenia for other European countries if the economic boom lags, and there can be many unforseen consequences to becoming a part of such a vast union, although I personally believe the good outweighs the bad. The one obstacle to Armenia joining the EU is its reforms towards democratization, and the Russian influence over the country (they have a few military bases there).

                    Also, Turkey joining the EU isn't all that bad (though I highly doubt they will ever join). If they join the EU they will be liable under European law to pay reparations for their crimes and its subsequent cover-up of nearly a century and counting.

                    And Iranianazeri, the Germans aren't the only ones opposed to Turkey joining the EU. France, Greece and Cyprus oppose them more than Germany does.

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