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  • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

    Originally posted by Haykakan View Post
    SAAKASHVILI: 'WE NEED ANTI-AIR, ANTI-TANK ARMS FROM U.S.'

    That should be the next stage of military cooperation with the U.S., he told Foreign Policy magazine’s blog.

    Civil Georgia, Tbilisi / 31 Mar.'11 / 10:53

    Some sales of small arms from the United States to Georgia are "in the
    pipeline", but Georgia needs heavier weapons, President Saakashvili
    told "The Cable" - a blog of The Foreign Policy magazine, during his
    recent visit to the U.S.

    "We don't' really need small arms, we have plenty of them and actually
    there are many alternative sources to shop for them," he was quoted
    in an article posted on The Cable on March 30. "What Georgia really
    needs is something that it cannot get from anywhere else and that's
    anti-air and anti-tank [weapons] and that's completely obvious
    ... that's where should be the next stage of the cooperation."

    In September, 2010 U.S. Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, said
    Washington had been "careful" in providing military assistance to
    Georgia. He, however, also said "every sovereign country has the
    right to provide for its own defense."

    In June, 2010 Philip Gordon, the assistant secretary of state for
    European and Eurasian affairs, rejected that the U.S. had arms
    embargo on Georgia. He, however, said that Washington's focus after
    the August war was on "reducing tensions" and trying to get Russian
    to follow its commitments under the ceasefire agreement and to respect
    Georgia's sovereignty and territorial integrity.

    "We don't think that arms sales and military equipment is the path
    to the situation in Georgia that we're trying to get to," Gordon said.

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    I just wanted to point this article out to illustrate why sticking to Russia is far better for Hayastan then going over to the USA. The USA sold out Georgia the first chance it got and it would sell us out even faster. Russian interests in Armenia's region are far greater then the USA interests and Russia cannot afford to seel us out.
    Generally speaking, the US is still heavily pro-Georgian but is not too keen on re-arming the Georgians beyond some token material and training(small arms---yeah, so much for the training ). The US does not want to further encourage Saakashvili; he is a loose cannon and has already embarrassed US, EU, NATO. The Russians are keeping a very close eye on the situation, are totally dialed in, and will have record of US armaments entering Georgia. The US makes stupid moves but will not burn their hands twice with Saakashvili, no matter how much arse he kisses.
    General Antranik (1865-1927): “I am not a nationalist. I recognize only one nation, the nation of the oppressed.”

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    • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

      Georgia to pay off debts to Armenia in 2025



      April 22, 2011 | 18:50

      Georgia accumulated a $16,636,000 debt to Armenia as a result of bilateral trade in 1992-1993, says an official letter by the Georgian Ministry of Finance.

      In the agreements of June 15, 1993, and June 2, 1994, the debts are indicated as state credits. The credit agreements were incorporated in a rescheduling agreement of June 5, 1996. Armenian-Georgian intergovernmental agreements of February 12, 2002 and of September 29, 2005 regulate Georgia’s debt to Armenia now, says the letter.

      The agreement of February 12, 2002 is in effect until December 31, and the one of September 29, 2005, is in effect until September 1, 2025.

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      • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

        That was during the time Georgia was in Civil War and was basically in a state of chaos, worse than Armenia's situation.
        Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
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        "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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        • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

          Pleasantly surprised someone actually is in debt to us for once and not the opposite.
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          • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

            This is from Turkish Weekly.



            In the past couple of weeks, Russia and Turkey have established a visa-free trade zone; the Georgians voted unanimously that the Russians wouldn't be allowed to use their land or airspace for military transport to Armenia; PACE declared that the airport in Artsakh shouldn't be completed; the statue in Kars is dismantled; a group of US Congressmen is visiting Azerbaijan; and a group of US Congressmen introduce a resolution on April 23 recognizing the importance of Turkey as an ally. The Russians were completely ok with the the Georgian decision to prohibit any military aid to Armenia. Am I being paranoid or is a stranglehold being formed?

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            • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

              I forgot. The Turks, Azeris and Iranians held a conference to discuss various issues, including the Azeris getting all their land back.

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              • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

                A troll is a troll, even if it makes only 8 posts in 4 years.
                Plenipotentiary meow!

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                • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

                  Coming from the quintessential troll, I'll take that as a compliment. Some of us prefer to read and learn from other people's opinions. I post something when I think it's relevant. Judging by the general reaction to your posts, although you certainly surpass me in quantity, the quality of your postings leaves a bit to be desired.

                  The Russians, Turks, Iranians, Azeris and Georgians are all simultaneously making deals over the past two weeks - each of which is detrimental to Armenian interests. I posted a short paragraph pointing that out. A cheap, snide response was the best you could muster.

                  You are, of course, aware that caviling is a sign of an undeveloped mind.

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                  • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

                    Originally posted by Setta View Post
                    This is from Turkish Weekly.



                    In the past couple of weeks, Russia and Turkey have established a visa-free trade zone; the Georgians voted unanimously that the Russians wouldn't be allowed to use their land or airspace for military transport to Armenia; PACE declared that the airport in Artsakh shouldn't be completed; the statue in Kars is dismantled; a group of US Congressmen is visiting Azerbaijan; and a group of US Congressmen introduce a resolution on April 23 recognizing the importance of Turkey as an ally. The Russians were completely ok with the the Georgian decision to prohibit any military aid to Armenia. Am I being paranoid or is a stranglehold being formed?
                    Don't think you should be especially worried. Russian-Turkish relations have always been limited to business and I don't see the signing of a visa-free trade zone affecting Armenia negatively. It could put Turkey on a tighter Russian leash, even.

                    For the Georgian land and airspace fiasco, are we really surprised at this? Even the Russians aren't surprised. The only thing i'm surprised about is that Georgia has been allowing it to go for this long! They are enemies and I think both Armenia and Russia was expecting this to happen sooner than later. What this might do actually is strengthen the Russia-Armenia-Iran axis because the Russians will now be forced to ship the weaponry from the Caspian sea to Iran and then to Armenia. Armenia won't be affected since i'm assuming Russia pays for all the costs of transportation given how they lease the base for free (fiscally).

                    PACE can yap all it wants, you think it will stop the construction of the Stepanakert civilian airport? These useless supranational organisations have passed many anti-Armenian resolutions for the last 20 years and nothing has happened. PACE especialy has such a history.

                    Good riddance for the Kars statue. Not only was it ugly and Erdogan had it right by calling it a "freak", but it was fake, just an empty shell. Armenian-Turkish relations did not materialise and that statue will not change anything either. Furthermore, this just ends up making them look bad and not Armenians.

                    US congressmen often visit random places. Former Vice President xxxx Cheney also visited Azerbaijan while he was in his last year or so as VP. Nothing happened, just diplomatic overtures to the Baku oil industry that already exist.
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                    • Re: Armenian Georgian Relations

                      Georgians will make their final mistake when they try to f0ck armenia in the ass, then they're finished. Russia will have the moral duty to end their republic once and for all. It's already heading that way.

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