Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

[Mukuch]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

So Antranig wasn’t educated enough or had the Intellect, according to you?

Andranik was (and is) concidered as a national hero by many. So it was the political conjuncture... I still didnt get where exactly he and his 6.000 people were during the Sardarapat?

[Yedtarts]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Give me one example.
Andranik was just an uneducated son of a carpenter who was not able to grasp Dashnak Intelectuals... And yes he was some where else when Dashnaks were defending Armenia (or what rest of it) from turks in Sardarapat...

The writer, intellectual and ARF leader Mikayel Varandian wrote about Andranik: "Not less courageous and not less capable than Serob Aghbiur, Andranik had both intelligence and instinct. A born strategist, with a thorough knowledge of the mountains and valleys of the motherland, he was a unique and unparalleled leader and commander. He was audacious and courageous, also cautious and farsighted"

So Antranig wasn’t educated enough or had the Intellect, according to you?

[Mukuch]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

1. Armenia hates them

Who said that? Where did you get that xxxx from?

2. Everytime some Armenian did something heroic in the past, the Dashnagsootyoon would claim him as their own (such as Kach Antranik, who was so mad at Dashnaks he left Armenia)

Give me one example.
Andranik was just an uneducated son of a carpenter who was not able to grasp Dashnak Intelectuals... And yes he was some where else when Dashnaks were defending Armenia (or what rest of it) from turks in Sardarapat...

3. they are violent

????

It seems your information comes from a turkish schoolboock...

Conclusion... you are just another turk maymun!

[jgk3]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Check it this fine thread: http://forum.hyeclub.com/showthread....Dashnaktsutyun

[Gavur]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

And you are,,,?

[ILoveArmenia]

Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

I was interested in joining Armenian Youth Federation which works To bring together Armenian youth, to work in cooperation with the Armenian Revolutionary Federation towards the establishment of a united, free, and independent Armenia and also To prepare Armenian youth for future membership in the Armenian Revolutionary Federation and active involvement in the Armenian community.

the problem is i have heard a lot of negative things from Armenian Revolutionary Federation
such as:
1. Armenia hates them
2. Everytime some Armenian did something heroic in the past, the Dashnagsootyoon would claim him as their own (such as Kach Antranik, who was so mad at Dashnaks he left Armenia)
3. they are violent
etc etc

If their are any dashnaks here, please explain the history of it, their accomplishments, and why you personally are proud to be one. and if anyone here is against them, please present your proof and case as well.

[Federate]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Bulgaria Returns Gen. Antranig, Njdeh Documents to Armenia



YEREVAN (PanArmenian.net)—The Bulgarian Ambassador to Armenia Todor Staykov handed copies of a large number of documents related to the life and work of Armenian national herores Gen. Antranig and Karekin Njdeh, thus far housed in Bulgaria’s Veliko-Turnovo military and historical archives, to the Armenian history museum and national archive.

“Such documents are part of the history of a nation and we handed over their copies in compliance with the law. I would also like to thank the Armenian Ministry of Culture for its assistance,” Ambassador Staykov said.

Armenia’s Ambassador to Bulgaria Sergei Manaseryan thanked the Bulgarian government or the research that it has carried out.

“2010 will be announced as the ‘Year of Armenia and Bulgaria.’ We are planning to exhibit Matenadaran documents referring to Bulgarians,” said Manaseryan.

National archives director Amatuni Virabyan said that Armenia was also interested in obtaining documents on World War I and the Armenian Genocide that are kept in the Bulgarian archives.

http://www.asbarez.com/2009/09/10/bulgaria-returns-gen-antranig-njdeh-documents-to-armenia/

[Eddo211]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Edo211, this is VERY LOCAL politics...no one will notice .

that is Good news...........but at the same time I feel a hurt inside that we are forced do this.

you know what ithe policy of local armenian parities is :everything to survive...

[Mukuch]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Unless there is no choice and the well being of Armenians are at stake I don’t think it is a wise decision to support the Hezbollah just to gain more political points.....................also this works against Armenians as a whole who are pushing for the AG recognition from the Western governments who now will be raising their eyebrows. Then again chances are they know the Armenian situation there and they would understand but our enemies will run this into the ground for all its worth.

Edo211, this is VERY LOCAL politics...no one will notice that....you know what ithe policy of local armenian parities is :everything to survive...

[Mukuch]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

Sarkisian Warned Against Signing ‘Karabakh Deal’

16.07.2009
Sarkis Harutiunian

A political party in Armenia known for its hard line on national issues has warned President Serzh Sarkisian against signing any framework agreement with Azerbaijan over the disputed Nagorno-Karabakh region that would be based on the latest principles offered by international mediators.
At a press conference in Yerevan on Thursday, a senior representative of the Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnaktsutyun) did not rule out a demand for Sarkisian’s resignation if the latter signed a document based on the so-called Madrid principles that Dashnaktsutyun deems as running against the interests of both Armenia and Karabakh.

Sarkisian will fly to Moscow on Friday to hold talks with his Azerbaijani counterpart Ilham Aliev. The meeting in the Russian capital will come a week after the presidents of France, Russia, and the United States – the three countries that jointly co-head the Minsk Group of the Organization for Security and Cooperation in Europe (OSCE) leading international efforts on mediating a solution to the Karabakh conflict – issued a joint statement urging the presidents of Armenia and Azerbaijan “to resolve the few differences remaining between them and finalize their agreement” on the most recent draft of the Madrid principles.

These principles proposed by the mediators as a basis for further negotiations, in particular, call for the “return of the territories surrounding Karabakh to Azerbaijani control” and “future determination of the final legal status of Nagorno-Karabakh through a legally binding expression of will.”

Dashnaktsutyun Executive Council of Armenia representative Armen Rustamian said on Thursday that “if, God forbid, such a document is signed, our struggle will receive a completely different nature.”

“We have repeatedly said that no matter who the incumbent president is, we will oppose such a policy with all available constitutional means, including by demanding [the president’s] resignation,” said Rustamian.

Earlier this week, Dashnaktsutyun presented a demand for the resignation of the foreign minister in the Sarkisian cabinet.

The party had scheduled a picket near the Foreign Ministry building in Yerevan for Thursday afternoon, but canceled it after President Sarkisian declared July 16 a day of national mourning in Armenia over a deadly plane crash in Iran in which 168 people, including 36 Armenians, were killed while traveling from Tehran to Yerevan.

Among Dashnaktsutyun’s demands, which were also echoed by the participants of the party-hosted large forum in Karabakh capital Stepanakert last weekend, is that Yerevan paves the way for Karabakh to return to the negotiations with Azerbaijan as a full party.

A statement adopted by the Dashnaktsutyun Executive Council of Armenia earlier this week called for the resignation of Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian because “Armenia’s foreign policy has deviated from the main provisions of the national security strategy.”

“For the purpose of eliminating the negative consequences that have emerged in the foreign policy domain and restoring the national-state course, we demand the resignation of Foreign Minister Edward Nalbandian, who is immediately responsible for the sphere,” said Rustamian, presenting the summary demand of the statement.

Rustamian explained that by not demanding President Sarkisian’s resignation, Dashnaktsutyun shows that it does not want to “disrupt the works”, but instead seeks a “drastic change” in the situation.

“The president still has an opportunity to make a drastic change in the situation and, most importantly, not to sign the document that is being proposed today,” he said.

Rustamian also announced that Dashnaktsutyun had prepared a letter addressed to the ambassadors of the United States, France and Russia to Armenia informing them of “the deepest disappointment of Armenians around the world with the unjustified and groundless pressure of the Minsk Group co-chairing countries on Armenia for the purpose of imposing unilateral and dangerous concessions in the issue of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.”

Another Armenian party, Zharangutyun, also known as a vocal critic of Sarkisian’s policy on Karabakh, hinted at possible cooperation with Dashnaktsutyun in opposing a deal with Azerbaijan based on the Madrid principles.

Larisa Alaverdian, a member of the party’s parliamentary faction, emphasized at a separate press conference on Thursday that Zharangutyun was the first to declare they would demand Sarkisian’s resignation if he signed any document based on the Madrid principles.

“I am glad we have some ground for cooperation with such an old and established political force as Dashnaktsutyun,” said Alaverdian. “I have criticized Dashnaktsutyun on many occasions over domestic matters before. But it is good that [in this issue] our viewpoints match.”

http://www.armenialiberty.org/conten...e/1778590.html

Thanks for posts, Federate.