Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

[Yedtarts]

Re: Dashnaktsutyun - Armenian Revolutionary Federation

I don't know what kind of Dashnak you are, but the ones I know all respect and honor him.

[Yedtarts]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Well that ia all right....
but i still didnt get it. Where exactly was Andranik during the Sardarapat batle?

I don’t know where he was but, someone that fought on a thousands of fronts and always marching and charging at first, I don’t think would’ve been afraid to fight one more battle. There’s an Arabic saying: “always excuse the absent who’s not there (or here) to give his side of the story or defend himself from accusations”.

You were challenging his education and his intellect too, what’s that?

[Mukuch]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Someone who doesn’t even deserve to lick Zoravar Antranik’s boot is badmouthing him?
You cannot have the ARF’s flag as your avatar, speak on their behalf or use the ARF name as a shield and badmouth Antranig. Watch your mouth “dket”! Zoravar Antranig was honored and respected by all political parties. So stop these childish games that you are playing.

Andranik is a legend, all right.... but he was a human , very human....

But you still didnt say it. Where exactly was Andranik during the Sardarapat batle?

well.... ok ... ok... I will tell you, I just remembered: Andranik declared that the batle is pointless and armenian army do not stand a chanse against huge turkish army and withdrowed to Lori with his people. You know why? Very simple he wanted to be a God but Dashnaks didnt see him as one... Do you know who wan sardarapat batle? No one knows... it was general Pirumov, an armenian ex general of russian army... Why no one remembers him? Just becaus he was an educated man and wasnt a son of a carpinter?

[Mukuch]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

That back then we were fighting on every font and not only on the Turkish front. Could it not be possible that there were soldiers fighting at other fronts under the command of Andranik?

culd be, would be but wasnt...

I think that could be a very special front it is called egoistic and hypocritic front...

[Yedtarts]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Nah.... Andranik was havin khorovats with Hovhanes Tumanyan in Lori exatly in that time when Dashnaks were fighting in Sardarapat

Someone who doesn’t even deserve to lick Zoravar Antranik’s boot is badmouthing him?
You cannot have the ARF’s flag as your avatar, speak on their behalf or use the ARF name as a shield and badmouth Antranig. Watch your mouth “dket”! Zoravar Antranig was honored and respected by all political parties. So stop these childish games that you are playing.

"Like an eagle he soars over the mountains and ridges."
The first name in the Armenian struggle for national liberation ....Զորավար Անդրանիկ-Zoravar Antranik( Antranik pasha)
Throughout our history we’ve had many heroes who fell for our pride and liberty…Antranik is one of the most remarkable and spoken of; he is considered as the Hero of heroes, to whom Death did not dare to approach in the battlefield.
At the age of 18, he killed a turk, who was torturing his father, and escaped to the mountains, joining other Armenian freedom-fighters, Fedayis. Soon his exceptional military genius became evident and his fame spread all over the Armenian highland.
He took part in a thosand battles, sitting on his white horse, holding his sword high in the air, rushing towards the enemy under a shower of bullets and yet never a bullet hit him. He was the most fearless man in the world.
Khalil Pasha, a cruel Kurd tribesman, who was the terror of Armenians of Sassoun and surroundings, succeeded to kill Serop Pasha treacherously, and received the highest decoration from the Sultan. All the Armenians, even the fedayis were horrified, and no one dared to revenge the death of that great fedayi.
Antranik, although at that time suffering from severe arthritic pains not only succeeded to detect and kill the traitors who had poisoned Serop Pasha, but also succeeded to cut the head of Khalil, thus restoring the prestige of fedayis. That is why the Kurd bards used to sing: "No one can avoid the revengefull dagger of Antranik". The Kurds believed that when at night Antranik took off his coat to go to bed, hundreds of bullets fell from it. Of course this is a legend, but every legend has some truth in it.

At the guerrilla battle of Arakelots Vank Antranik with his 80 fedayis was fighting against a regular turkish forces of over 10.000. The turks had surrounded the monastery and were sure to capture or kill Antranik and his fedayis.
After 22 days of severe fighting, due to his extraordinary valor, dexterity and factics Antranik succeeded to break the lines of enemy forces and come out safely with his warriors, filling the turks with fear and terror. "Antranik is not a human being, he is a ghost", turks used to say.
When Antranik visited America, all the Armenians, from the Atlantic to the Pacific coast, gave him an enthusiastic reception. Americans were amazed and they asked: "Who is this man?". "He is the George Washington of Armenians", was the answer everywhere, and the Americans honored him by letting him sit on George Washington's chair, which was an unprecedented honor.
He died in Fresno, in 1927 ,his remains were reposed at Paris's famed Pere La Chaise Cemetery in 1928. The remains of Antranik were finally brought to Armenia in 2000, which was his last will "When I die, let my body belong to no one but the Armenian people, my valiant warriors, Armenia"

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Oh really? And how it is? "the reality" ?

That back then we were fighting on every font and not only on the Turkish front. Could it not be possible that there were soldiers fighting at other fronts under the command of Andranik?

[Mukuch]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

You have the right to think it that way but reality is quiet different than what you think.

Oh really? And how it is? "the reality" ?

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Nah.... Andranik was havin khorovats with Hovhanes Tumanyan in Lori exatly in that time when Dashnaks were fighting in Sardarapat

You have the right to think it that way but reality is quiet different than what you think.

[Mukuch]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Could it be that they were fighting at a different front because we weren't only being attacked from Turkey but also by the Turks living at the other side of Armenia.

Nah.... Andranik was havin khorovats with Hovhanes Tumanyan in Lori exatly in that time when Dashnaks were fighting in Sardarapat

[KarotheGreat]

Re: Armenian Revolutionary Federation (Dashnagsootyoon)

Andranik was (and is) concidered as a national hero by many. So it was the political conjuncture... I still didnt get where exactly he and his 6.000 people were during the Sardarapat?

Could it be that they were fighting at a different front because we weren't only being attacked from Turkey but also by the Turks living at the other side of Armenia.