Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

[Virgil]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Are you joking? Did you read this thread? If this is what you call being "united" then you should seriously brush up on your definition of "unity". The xxxish ppl are waaay more united even when they are not in their homeland. The real reason why Armenia is doomed is because of ultra nationalistic moronic Armenians that would rather push other Armenians and the diaspora away rather than embrace and include them into the community. You all hate on each other so much that Fed had to create 4 CLASSES of Armenians just to "help out" everyone in discovering who the real Armenians are ... Oooooo ... way to be useful Fez.

Understand, the reality is that Armenia needs quality over quantity and furthermore, the Armenian Diaspora is already dead because of men and women like your mother or father that opted to open their legs and home to a Non-Armenians. The reality is that you consider yourself Non-Armenian and you have dual loyalties, dual identity, and a dual lifestyle.

And Armenian was just talking about the degenerate nature of the Diaspora, you see, it is at this point that I can even begin to tell you how wrong your views are and opposed to the Armenian way of life. Your Armenian ancestors fought so they can have these very rights your parent pissed away. If I were to take you to Armenia, other then the fact that you have a money, the people would not really connect with you. Only a true Armenian would understand where Armenian is coming from, you being raised in this multicultural, multiracial, and godless existience in which identities are peddled on the street corner or the local mall, can never relate with me. a full Armenian by blood and identity. The sad thing is you probably can not even relate with a person of purely Greek extraction, this is in essence why people like me are fighting the good fight, but again, at the base you don't know what the hell I am talking about, I can not describe the color blue to you if you have never seen it. How can I tell why I dislike you when in fact you are alien to the values of the Armenian people? Its a fruitless effort, you just bring cultural trash into our communities, we don't want wiggers and xxxxxs, we want Armenian men and women.

Me for instance, I came here looking to bond with people from my ethnic background. I created a thread asking how I could get more involved in the Armenian community, which NO ONE HERE EVER RESPONDED TO!! Speaks volumes right there ... I also invited the whole forum out to a show where I was performing and all I got in return was a bunch of racist rhetoric from mental midgets. Turntablism is something that I was years into before I EVER came here so to bully me about a trait I developed before meeting you all is ridiculous. No one here ever made an effort to make me or anyone else in the diaspora feel welcome here and for that you should all feel ashamed.

xxxx you, I am not ashamed of anything nor should anyone else be ashamed of having preferences and sticking to them, I uphold my values and I will always uphold my values, furthermore, I would rather have one true Armenian versus having hundred wigger wannabes. At the core you already a handjob of Non-Armenian influences and, now, you want the community to accept you and teach you "how to be Armenian"? What kind of ridiculous nonsense is this? You don't teach another person how to be Armenian, a identity is constructed from your life experiences and life lesson you inharit from your Armenian mother, Armenian father, Armenian family, and Armenian friends.

You should go cry and whine to your parents that opted to raise you as a multicultural child, if you hold any resent it should be towards them not I, and certainly, not the Armenian community. People like me (Armenian and Non-Armenian alike) look at this identity peddling and cringe, I will never ever put a child through this cultural sludge, I have decided to make the right the decision and certainly, I will not make the mistake of marrying out and then expect a entire community accept my half Armenian child as a Armenian. If your parents have a "right" to marry out, certainly, individuals like me have a right to not marry out and absolutly the both actions are not equal, this is the reality. You are essentially trying to imply that I, as a full Armenian, have some responsiblity to you when I don't.

The reality is you are who you are, I am who I am, and we are who we are, there exists no entity at fault other then your parents. This is the reality you should accept, which is essentially that you can not ask a individual to "teach you" what he or she can not. I did not "opt" to be Armenian, it is something that was passed onto me. Identity construction starts at home, it starts at the basic level (i.e. eating Armenian food, speaking Armenian on a daily basis, bolstering interest in Armenia, and etc ...) and builds up to shape a identity.

And of those degenerate, half ass, half witted, and short sighted Armenians that treat being Armenian as a "religion" or some kind of "ism" or "classroom lesson" should think clearly and thoroughly on what exactly they are implying. Essentially, you are reducing our long history and sacrifices into nothing, taking what brave and proud Armenian men and women fought long and hard for to preserve and turning into a pickled jar. As mentioned earlier, taken to the infinite power, it will destroy and has destroyed the Armenian Diaspora. The reality is that fragmenting your communities will lead to further marginalization and assimilation, individuals that claim otherwise are just stupid, naive, and selfish, their mongralized and identity deprived child has noone to blame but his or her selfish parents.

What my incentive? To bring a half Armenian and half what ever else reject into my community in order for him or her to also bring with them foreign values and influences? Hell no, you as a wigger and "hip hop artist", what ever, "street culture", are a walking example of why marrying out should not be embraced. You reek with Non-Armenain elements, elements I don't want in my community.

YOU ALL ARE THE REASON I WILL NEVER CONSIDER MYSELF ARMENIAN EVER AGAIN!! Be proud of yourselves as your brilliant strategy is being played out before your blind eyes. Because of the way I have been treated here I will never talk to or befriend an Armenian, attempt to learn the language, ever make the food again, tell others about the genocide, and will certainly never date or marry an Armenian woman. You all have put such a bad taste in my mouth that I wish you all the worst. This is how you all want it, not I.

Exactly, a win for the Armenian community, take your trash to the Greek community. Listen jackass, you are essentially validating my argument and you were never Armenian in the first place nor were you Greek, you are a hybrid person, with dual identities, who at some point in your life, looked around, saw that joe black rapper has his own identity and wanted to find your identity, but the reality is that your identity was lost, cut at the root when your dad impregnated your mom, I don't know else to put it, its a fact of life, live with it.

The reality is that I should not be to blame for lack of motivation to learn your language or anything related to being Armenian, again, this goes back to my earlier point, you just view your identity as a picked jar, a novelty item you can enjoy at your own discretion, I, on the other hand, view my identity as a way of life, I live and breath it on a daily basis. That latter can not be "taught" nor is it something I can "teach you" and certainly, it is not something I can "deem" you to possess. By me validating you as a Armenian it does not change the fact that you are only half Armenian.

So instead of gaining a halfie-Armenian (go f* yourself Tom) who would have totally embraced Armenian culture for the better you pushed me so far away that I'm never coming back. I was trying to integrate myself into the Armenian community but it seems it serves Armenia and Armenians more to push me away. This is why the xxxish culture is a million times more unified than your own because they embrace each other no matter where they live and what generation they are. You morons ostracize EVERYONE including ppl that live RIGHT NEXT TO ARMENIA AND ARE ARMENIAN!! Seriously this forum is filled to the brim with some of the most ignorant, racist, armchair philosophers I have ever come across. I mean is that a Clydesdale horse you are all rode in on?? Did you pick the tallest one to maximize your high horse syndrome??

xxxx you, Turks are the most racist and ignorant people in the world, you are just so stupid that you look at the outer surfaces. If your ideas of "Turks being more 'unfyed'" then you jackass, why were "Turkish Christians" deemed enemies of the state? Why do Turks always try their best to appear white? Go to white supremicist websites, most of the posters are Turks. They try to paint the picture that Armenians are Non-White in order to have a high horse to ride on based on the premise that they were justified in commiting genocide.

Every Non-Armenain friend that I have, including the ones that are some kind of Non-Armenian mix agree with me, they are a handjobs of multiculturalism. They lack any identity becuase their families do not constitute a full a ethnic family, they lack important parts of the identity.

Again, unifying for the sake of unifying is a lost cause that people like you use a crux to push forward your argument. The reality is asswipe that when a people choose to fragment themselves under religious, ethnic, and racial differences the idea of "unifying" goes out the window.

Finally, I don't care if I "ostercize" you, the reality is the reality, I can only tolerate some half Armenians, I respect them as people, but they are who they are, they are only half Armenian, they can not even speak Armenian correctly and lack any sort of patriotism because at the core their loyalty is split.

And I should not feel responsible for lack of your identity nor should you put your lack of having a identity on the backs of other forum members. The reality is that you can't speak Armenian and have no idea what it means to be Armenian because you are not Armenian, end of story, get that through your thick skull. You are a walking example of why multicultural familes will fail, I have no obligating to accept you as a Armenian, furthermore, I certainly will never accept a wigger because, to be frank, I dislike wiggers and the culture they represent. Essentially, its not even the fact that you are half Armenian that I must accept, it is a package deal. A deal that only benefits you.

I'm even considering changing my last name so I won't have to deal with you ppl in random encounters when ppl read my last name off of this or that and assume I am one of you. Thank God I am not! By changing my last name you all will also not be able to look at my name on the several credits I have and assume I am Armenian . NO ARMENIAN IS GOING TO READ MY NAME IN CREDITS AND ASSUME I AM ARMENIAN!! F* that.

Don't let me stop you! By all means, please change your last name, down the line your decendents will then have no excuse to come back to our community asking for some cultural handout because they were deprived of a identity.

Your assuming to many things, first reach the mountain and then turn around and glout in your success. The reality is that I don't consider Micheal Vartan (xxxish), Nalbandian (quarter Armenian), or Kasparov (xxxish) Armenian, so what makes you think I give a xxxx what some halfass wigger thinks? I don't even like Charles Aznavour because his a degenerate jackass that escaped to France only to have muslim grandchildren.

Oh and if I am a "wigger" then you are all the original version of the word. Worthless, useless, ineffectual, and purposeless. In my mind that word is colorless so please feel free to address it to yourselves. All you have in your tiny little pathetic world is bickering about the same crap issues day-in-and-day-out ... like all the words in this forum will ever make a difference. Oh it does actually ... it makes a difference in the fact that no one comes here and posts because the ultra nationalistic dorks here push everyone away who isn't an extremist for Armenia.

xxxx you, no one is a ultra-nationalistic, you probably are to stupid to even realize that you, as a American, live and breath in a nationalistic state. Anyone that holds anysort of citizen is a nationalist, anyone that raises a anysort of flag is a nationalist, and certainly, anyone that opts to live in one state over another is a nationalist. And if we "represent" the "true meaning" of what constitutes a "wigger" then you represent the true meaning of assimilation.

Again, I could careless what anyone of your caliber thinks about Armenians, your parent was a self hating individual to not have enough love in himself for his fellow people. Yes, being part of a people means that you love them so much that this love for yourself motivates you to maintain your identity at all costs, anything else or using the crux of "I tried" evolves into a excuse. The reality is this, individuals will either accept that fact that the only way to raise a child as a Armenian is by marrying a Armenian or they will be confronted with children like Lamb Boy that have no tie to their people and are identity deprived. Love is not blind, people have a choice, you succomb to your pleasures and selfish behavior, you have to face the consequence, it is not up to me nor anyone else to come and teach you about what it means to be Armenian, you either know from birth or you don't, end of story.

Lamb Boy, thank you for validating my original premise.

[Armenian]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Comparatively speaking, we Armenians are one of the most 'united' people on earth, even more so than the Jews in my opinion.

[Virgil]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

So you agree with the initial question that we Armenians are on the verge of extinction here and in homeland.

We have no body to blame but ourself, us...people.

If it continues this way i doubt Armenia will be on world map in 100 years. Its up to us to do something. Instead of pointing out each others differences.


Tomorrow you gonna go back to Armenia, but thats not enough.

Fedayeen, lav lesse, yetta uzumes hyeastana lav yerkir elni petka du "dram" goghanac otar yerkirnaritz, estan usumen "neo-imperialism". However, there has to be the emphasis of the diaspora to return home and once this emphasis is there, people are more willing to make the "pro-Armenian" choice. Now, you may as why this is important and for the nth time I will repeat myself, when you take away individaul value in yourself it is a race to bottom, it demotivates anyone to think about state because on the fundimental level, you don't think about yourself as a Armenian and how important it is to be Armenian. Yetta, everyone had this ideology engrained in their heads maybe we would treat each other better and not to overemphasis the negative, for the most part we are "el lav" then most people in these regards, however, again, go back to my context, state in shambles, diaspora out numbering natives of Armenia, two front cold war, emigration, and ...you get the picture.

[Virgil]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Nonetheless, there has never been a "unified" nation anywhere on earth - and that includes the deeply fragmented xxxish people. Had the xxxs not been hated and persecuted worldwide, albeit with good reason, they would be cannibalizing each other today. All nations, all religions are fragmented without exception. Nations that 'seem' the most united today are the ones who's governments are the strongest, most ruthless, thereby keeping the collective nation united under a single banner or myth. And as long as the Armenian nation tolerates traitors such as the former president Levon Ter Petrosian and his supporters, or self-hating proponents of assimilation as our Ara types, our nation will 'never' have its day under the sun.

Just to point out somthing, Armenians are not as fragmented as lets say Americans, the American government has to spend more resources toward making sure everyone is "contempt" with the government in order to have the stabiliy we, as Americans, have today. If the Armenian nation was ethnically, religiously, and racially fragmented then Armenia would have been divided in the early 1990's when electricity was cut and people were living day to day on foreign donations. I just want to make sure people understand that it is only the "Ara types" or people like him or people that have no sense of worth or common sense that contribute to more fragmentation or else Armenia and Armenian people, being a mono-ethnic, mono-racial, and mono-religious nation and people, respectively, (No, spell check so sue me!) are at this point in the better position then lets say Georgians, Turks, and Azeris. Just look at neighbors, their fragmentation has lead to their state being on a constant threat of being overtaken by foreign invaders via minorities.

Furthermore, this idea of "Armenian Zionism" has been the crux that has lead to the marginalization of the Armenian state and people throughout history. These cycle of events of having (a) Diaspora, (b) relying on the myth that the "Diaspora is useful", and (c) avoiding confrontations becuase our leaders choose to rely on (a) and (b) has been historically and will be the essentially, "nail in the coffin", for ourselves as Armenians and for our state.

Finally, the context of my statements are as important then the statements themselves, the fact of the matter is and you can not get out of this very reality, at least have the courage to face this fact, you have more than 50% of your population living in foreign nations, and ... I will stop there and let my fellow members fill in the bubbles.

[Fedayeen]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

So you agree with the initial question that we Armenians are on the verge of extinction here and in homeland.

We have no body to blame but ourself, us...people.

If it continues this way i doubt Armenia will be on world map in 100 years. Its up to us to do something. Instead of pointing out each others differences.


Tomorrow you gonna go back to Armenia, but thats not enough.

[Armenian]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

This "Armenian unity" wish is a silly one, not to mention unattainable for it's an 'unhuman' trait to expect within a people, especially within a highly opinionated and temperamental people like us Armenians. What's more, we cannot expect any ideological 'unity' in a nation that is essentially trapped between various powerful geopolitical influences and factors. Consequently, some Armenians will tend to be pro-American, some Armenians will be pro-Russian, some Armenians will be pro-European... Some Armenians consider Armenians a middle eastern nation, some Armenians think we are a European nation and yet other Armenians think we are a Caucasian nation... Some Armenians think we need to establish normal relations with Turkey, other Armenians think otherwise... It's all quite natural, you get the picture...

As history of other nations (powerful nations for that matter) have shown, in order to achieve a semblance of national unity, there first has to be major bloodletting within a nation, a civil war if you will. Although we Armenians have at times been at each other's throats, limited engagements here and there, we have 'never' been embarked upon a national agenda of cleaning house - as most successful nations on earth have done at one time or another. During the First World War Dashnak forces attempted to eliminate Ottoman Armenians who were obstacles to our independence movement but for various reasons they were not able to do in effectively.

Take Virgil and Ara Baliozian for example - two individuals on the extreme opposite ends of the sociopolitical spectrum. How can anyone in their right minds think that these two types of individuals in question can be united (or should be united) under one banner/ideology... It's utter nonsense. In large and/or powerful nations the Virgil types have more-or-less been successful in grabbing power during the course of their national history, and today the Ara types live as free subjects under the watchful eyes of the governing Virgil types. However, in lesser nations, dispersed nations, nations without homelands, or extinct nations, it is the Ara types that have been successful... The Armenian nation has had a fair share of the Virgil types and the Ara types throughout history. Due to the peculiarities of our national history, not one of them was able to eradicate the other. And this is essentially what that makes Armenian history so complex- at times glorious, at times depressing, but never boring...

Nonetheless, there has never been a "unified" nation anywhere on earth - and that includes the deeply fragmented Jewish people. Had the Jews not been hated and persecuted worldwide, albeit with good reason, they would be cannibalizing each other today. All nations, all religions are fragmented without exception. Nations that 'seem' the most united today are the ones who's governments are the strongest, most ruthless, thereby keeping the collective nation united under a single banner or myth. And as long as the Armenian nation tolerates traitors such as the former president Levon Ter Petrosian and his supporters, or self-hating proponents of assimilation as our Ara types, our nation will 'never' have its day under the sun.

[jgk3]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

I was referring more to "Armenians" in a broader sense, like the community you see on this forum, rather than towards individuals who are Armenian by their distinctive tie to the homeland, but you're right nonetheless about how we are already divided as a people.

But my comment on divisiveness was more of a speculation about how perhaps we could teach these cold facts about our nature (both at the societal and individual level) and share our common sense much easier if we did not opt to insult each other so readily. Sure, we can criticize each other, it must be of a constructive nature though, otherwise we get out of hand and our utility for others in that moment deteriorates (I see this happen all too often in myself, bah, who am I kidding, I insult people way too often, I just don't know if it's constructive in the end).

[Virgil]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Yes, there is a problem with Armenians, each one fervently sticking to their own camp out of the many that are available.

Can you inform me of the types/categories of Armenians that you see, Fedayeen? That is, while trying not to insult anyone, as this is a general trait of Armenians that contribute to our divisiveness imo.

NO, there is no problem, you encounter problems and "division" when you have to convince others of facts that are ingrained in common sense. This in essence is what "division" and therefore, in the long run you are misdirected because no one is brave enough to lead the people.

This idea of "dividing" people when in fact individuals like, Armenian and I, are trying to clean up the community and at least, bare minimum, pass over strong ideas, should not be considered "dividing". We are taking initiative, the idea of us "dividing" is a assbackwards ideology because the reality is that Armenians are already "divided". They are "divided" because on the basic level they consider themselves some prefix before consider themselves Armenian. And you know why this is the case? Because you have Armenians outside the "homeland" attempting to adapt instead of mustering up the courage to face that facts and assimilate. These ideas of yours and Fedayeen is not new to the Armenian community. Reread Armenian history, you will see the same sick cycle of events.

Armenians in America need to realize that, thus far, their acheivments will never equal the acheivments of Armenians in historic Persia, Russia, and Turkey, and even these in communities, Armenians ended up with the short end of the stick. I support Armenian even though we have a our differences regarding a few issues because on the basic level, it is individuals like him that will gurantee our future. It is not individuals that log on to my space, facebook, and all these "redundancies", it is not individuals that strive to wear a costume instead of being who they are, it is not individuals that are so weak that they can not push themselves to do the right thing as Armenians, like I have numerous stated, anything else becomes a race to the bottom. If you can set standards and you can no follow them then you are "tarvatz" on the basic level.

[Virgil]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

If you look closely there are more than 4 categories. But nice try.

I think he has the right idea, if you are a jackass, people will call you out. I use to think like you, "oh, let me not offend any Armenian, for the sake of appearing 'metsha metk'", however, the reality is this, quality is much better than quantity. As long as people know there exists a scale they will strive to be at the top of the measurements or else everything else becomes a race to the bottom.

You fall right under the category who likes to think so highly of them selfs and separate them self from others, to keep the people divided, etc.

Divide who? We are already divided, the idea that being "united" for the sake of "being united", is a assbackwards ideology that has lead to the depression and stagnation of the Armenian people. If you want to change the world you have to find like minded individuals that share the same fundimental beliefs as you or else the momentim that you build among the people will disintigrate because there exists no leader, no vision, just stagnation, like a prophat leading his or her people into the desert with no oasis in sight.

I think Armenian is the most level headed individual on these forums, on any forum. He contributes more to the development of the "idea" that Armenians have a state and it is only in this state that truly both the Armenian identity and interests can develop. Any other investment or time spent on electing foreign born politicians with the "grandiose" idea of piggy backing on the backs of foreign nationals and their tax dollars will only lead to further emigration, stagnation, and, eventually, extrapollating it, it will lead to the extinction. You are assuming too much, you are assuming, first, that these ideas of "piggy backing" is a new concept to the Armenian people, in which I will remind you that for nearly 400 years Armenians in Iran toiled and labored for the glory of the Persian Empire, but yet to this day they still have to pay extra taxes because they are Christians. You know the Hungarian-Armenians? Oh wait, there are none, they were forced to assimilate because their loyalty was in quesiton...hmm...what about the Indian Armenians? Only deserted churches remain and a "Armenian street".

And I am not communicating "down on you", I am trying my best to communicate to you that your ideas of Armenian "being a dividing force" are not new to the Armenian community. For 500 years "Christian Turks" toiled, day in and day out, to develop the Ottoman Empire. What happend to the "multinational", "multinethnic" state? It declined and in the process, because Armenians were so busy "unifying", also known as lacking direction, also known as "not dividing", they lost it all because they were not brave enough to band together and follow their leaders, right or wrong, to the front lines.

They died a cowards death I am sorry to say, I am not being "cold", "rude", and "disrespectful", but the reality is this, the Armenian people would have fared better if they follow their nationalists. No army in the world, at the time, had the ammunition on hand to stop 1.5 million Armenians, even with pitchforks they would had a better chance and certainly, they would have fared much better being meat sheilds versus being dragged into caves in mass only to sufficate to death by the smoke being blown into the cave (This is what Professor Balikian referred to as "primative gas chambers") or walking to their graves under the desert heat, so, please, let us stop this childless and romantic ideas of "pretending" to push forward the "Armenian cuase" by "uniting" under yan/ian last names.

"Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me" sums up the history of the Armenian people, we have made the same mistake numerous times. And to commit the same mistakes numerous times and yet not have the courage to address it because, knowing full well, that by addressing the mistake you are jeopordizing your existence is in my book the greatest evil.

Just this last elections here in Glendale, there were like 5-6 different Armenian people running for office. Why? because each one thinks they are the xxxx, and won't lower himself to work with the others for one common good. Instead of working together, they all make their own categories like our great Armenian in here.

No, they are not Armenian. They are Americans with Armenian ancestory, once you realize this fact, you stop paying attention to these half witts of the Armenian community that are falling into the same cycle of events of their ancestors and start focusing your attention "depi Hayrenig". Using foreign nationals and their tax dollars to develop your state will only alienate you (i.e. like the "choson people") and eventually you too will be kicked out of 88 countries. We had better men, in better positions in Turkey, Russia, and Persia, who thanked them and the Armenian people for their contributions to the empire? None, the same MIG fighter jets that was made conceived by a Armenian were the same ones the Azeri air force deployed on the Armenian villages. The fundimental tourist destinations and the root of "western" culture in Turkey was brought over from Europe by Armenians. As many point out, "we gave them drama, literature, art, history, science, and engineering" and what did they give us in return? I think at this point it is a question you should ask yourself when driving around in Glendale and looking around, seeing the influx of dollars immigrants from Armenia and Korea brought over that built the backbone of this great city, you and I reside in, only to be the target of prejudice shadow government that spends more time debating about the trivial code violations of Armenians, Armenian organizations, and Armenian businesses as opposed to the management of the day to day operations of Glendale.

Yeah, so I am accusing "Glendolians" of racism? Is it a lie? I think not, they have a grudge against Armenians, right or wrong, there exists tension. And I see the degenerate Armenians that ruin the good Armenian name, but the reality is this, for every Armenian that is assbackwards there are 10 that are not and the ratio is not same when comparing other "groups". One has to go to different parts of Los Angeles to appreciate the safety and stability Armenian immigrants have brought over into Glendale.

Anyways, what made you register under username Armenian? your the one and only one? (I am sorry i am not a good Armenian individual, its not my fault, i blame it on others everyday and hope things will get better )

Well, if you fail to develop the future of your state and opt to live a life as a American, then yes, you are a not a "good Armenian", you are a good American. Its not about being a "good Armenian", the reality is the reality. If you have a degenerate people that are opting to live in the comforts of foreign states as second class citizens when their own state is in shambles, then yes, Armenians have a right to call you out. If you are trying to "adapt" and in the process drag foreign elements into the Armenian culture, then, yes, you are a threat to the Armenian people.

Understand, this idea of "unifying" is a failed ideology that has lead to Armenians becoming more marginalized, divided, and has indirectly lead to the destruction of their nationalistic feelings which overtime weakened the Armenian state. I will never support some assbackwards wigger nor any Armenian that has a non-Armenian spouse. I think you are the one that married the mongol? Funny, a "Fadeyeen" that is Pro-Armenian, but on the fundimental level is not strong enough to do the right thing in his own life, so apprently, I, should drop my support for Armenian, a man who has a developed a strong Armenian family and will eventually migrate back so I can supporta degenerate assbackwards mongol kunogh like yourself? Your a insult to the Fedayeen. Anyways, it is funny who is sitting on the high horse and trying to prove a point of "dividing", when the said individual is truly the one that has racially fragmented us, no, we are not "dividing" Armenians, we are just cleaning the community up. Its funny, now I truly understand the phrase "Turkish Gypsies", what Greeks use to call Armenians in the Ottoman Empire. We have succesfully become American Gypsies nowadays.

[jgk3]

Re: Are Armenians on the verge of extinction?

Yes, there is a problem with Armenians, each one fervently sticking to their own camp out of the many that are available.

Can you inform me of the types/categories of Armenians that you see, Fedayeen? That is, while trying not to insult anyone, as this is a general trait of Armenians that contribute to our divisiveness imo.