Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

[womble]

Please, could someone answer these 2 questions for me?

1) In Eastern Armenian, is the letter Յ/յ called hi or yi?

2) In Eastern Armenian, is Jesus' name pronounced as Hisus or Yisus

Thanks.

[Lucin]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

1) Յ/ յ = hi

2) Jesus= Hisus

[karoaper]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

1) Յ/ յ = hi

2) Jesus= Hisus

I think the letter Յ/յ is the only difference between Iranian and "Armenian" subsystems of the Eastern Armenian. In Armenia, the Յ/յ is exclusively for the "y@" sound as in կապույտ,կյանք,և այլն.

The "h@" sound in Armenia is exclusively taken care of by the letter Հ/հ. I can't remember the words where the Iranian system uses Յ/յ for the "h@" sound. Lucin jan can you remind me.

[Armenian]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

Յ/յ = H sound at the beginning of the word

Յ/յ = Y sound within the word

For example:

կապոյտ - Kapuyt

Յարութիւն = Harutiun

[Armenian]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

This website is perfect for fine tuning the unique sounds of the Armenian language: http://www.menq.am/tarer_main.htm

[Lucin]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

I think the letter Յ/յ is the only difference between Iranian and "Armenian" subsystems of the Eastern Armenian. In Armenia, the Յ/յ is exclusively for the "y@" sound as in կապույտ,կյանք,և այլն.

Yes, Persian Armenians write as կեանք.

As for կապոյտ, the story is different. It's ոյ (uy) and not յ alone, so it is considered one unique sound and it's the same for both of us in Iran and Armenia.

The "h@" sound in Armenia is exclusively taken care of by the letter Հ/հ. I can't remember the words where the Iranian system uses Յ/յ for the "h@" sound. Lucin jan can you remind me.

Յիսուս
յատուկ
յատկապէս
յարաբերութիւն
յետոյ
յայտարարութիւն
յեղափոխութիւն

Actually there is no particular rule to know where you should put Յ/յ where Հ/ հ . You just have to memorize...

Also:
In Iran իւն = in Armenia յուն Ex: գրականութիւն = գրականություն

Or:
In Iran եան= in Armenia յան Ex: Մանուկեան = Մանուկյան

[karoaper]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

Yes, Persian Armenians write as կեանք.

As for կապոյտ, the story is different. It's ոյ (uy) and not յ alone, so it is considered one unique sound and it's the same for both of us in Iran and Armenia.



Յիսուս
յատուկ
յատկապէս
յարաբերութիւն
յետոյ
յայտարարութիւն
յեղափոխութիւն

Actually there is no particular rule to know where you should put Յ/յ where Հ/ հ . You just have to memorize...

Also:
In Iran իւն = in Armenia յուն Ex: գրականութիւն = գրականություն

Or:
In Iran եան= in Armenia յան Ex: Մանուկեան = Մանուկյան

Thanks. Respect for having to remember more stuff than I did in school.

[Armenian]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

Thanks. Respect for having to remember more stuff than I did in school.

The differences in grammar and spelling that Lucin has pointed out are the differences between Mesrobian Armenian grammar and the modern era grammar in Armenia which was altered, or simplified, by Soviet authorities. The Iranian-Armenian community maintains the best form of Armenian today. They have preserved the old Mesrobian character of the language, which Armenians in Armenia have lost, while preserving the correct pronunciations, which Western Armenians have lost.

I just wish they did not chew or sing every word they speak...

[Lucin]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

I just wish they did not chew or sing every word they speak...

Yeah...I do my best to not chew but you know I am a bit singer and I can't help that since I'm surrounded by singers ( unless I live in Armenia for a while...)
I know it's not right but is it that "unpleasent"? Շատ տհա՞ ճ է ականջիտ:

[Armenian]

Re: Eastern Armenian pronunciation.

Yeah...I do my best to not chew but you know I am a bit singer and I can't help that since I'm surrounded by singers ( unless I live in Armenia for a while...) I know it's not right but is it that "unpleasent"? Շատ տհա՞ ճ է ականջիտ...

Don't you worry Lucin Jan, it sounds quite sexy when girls do it