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Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

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  • Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

    Can anybody tell me the difference between «էր» (Imperfect) and «եղաւ» (Perfect)? i.e. what context do you use them in, examples etc.

    For example what is the difference between these two sentences:

    Ա - Գիրք մը կը կարդայի:
    Բ - Գիրք մը կարդացի:

    կամ

    Ա - Մարդը ուրախ էր:
    Բ - Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ:

    Which is correct?

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    Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

    Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
    For example what is the difference between these two sentences:
    Originally posted by yerazhishda
    Ա - Գիրք մը կը կարդայի:
    I was reading a book.

    Originally posted by yerazhishda
    Բ - Գիրք մը կարդացի:
    I read a book.

    Originally posted by yerazhishda
    Ա - Մարդը ուրախ էր:
    The man was happy.

    Originally posted by yerazhishda
    Բ - Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ:
    The man became happy.

    Originally posted by yerazhishda
    Which is correct?
    Both?

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    • #3
      Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

      They are all correct. It's just that they have different tenses.

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        Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

        boooooo...western armenian
        Մեկ Ազգ, Մեկ Մշակույթ
        ---
        "Western Assimilation is the greatest threat to the Armenian nation since the Armenian Genocide."

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          Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

          Originally posted by Mos View Post
          boooooo...western armenian
          What's your բրոպլեմ?

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            Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

            Boo....Western Armenian uhm ok,

            How old are you 3 LOL
            Positive vibes, positive taught

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            • #7
              Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

              Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
              Can anybody tell me the difference between «էր» (Imperfect) and «եղաւ» (Perfect)? i.e. what context do you use them in, examples etc.

              For example what is the difference between these two sentences:

              Ա - Գիրք մը կը կարդայի:
              Բ - Գիրք մը կարդացի:

              կամ

              Ա - Մարդը ուրախ էր:
              Բ - Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ:

              Which is correct?
              yerazhishda,
              I agree with TomServo's translation; so I will simply add that, in Armenian, it's always??? possible to derive a verb from an adjective and it's preferable to say:

              "Մարդը ուրախացաւ" instead of "Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ."
              What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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                Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

                Originally posted by Siamanto View Post
                yerazhishda,
                I agree with TomServo's translation; so I will simply add that, in Armenian, it's always??? possible to derive a verb from an adjective and it's preferable to say:

                "Մարդը ուրախացաւ" instead of "Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ."
                So you can say:

                Այդ մարդը հաճեցաւ: instead of Այդ մարդը հաճելի եղաւ:

                Right?

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                  Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

                  Originally posted by yerazhishda View Post
                  Originally posted by Siamanto View Post
                  yerazhishda,
                  I agree with TomServo's translation; so I will simply add that, in Armenian, it's always??? possible to derive a verb from an adjective and it's preferable to say:

                  "Մարդը ուրախացաւ" instead of "Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ."
                  So you can say:

                  Այդ մարդը հաճեցաւ: instead of Այդ մարդը հաճելի եղաւ:

                  Right?
                  I think that the above example is a good reminder that the subtle complexities of a natural language cannot be fully captured by simple grammatical rules. Of course, it does not mean that the rule is incomplete; the ambiguity - i.e. polysemy of "pleasant" or "հաճելի" makes it a challenge - even without raising the question whether the Armenian "հաճելի" is equivalent to the English "pleasant."

                  If "հաճելի" is understood as "agreeable," "willing to please/agree" then yes; if "հաճելի" means "pleasant/enjoyable" then I'm inclined to say "No!" as I don't remember hearing/reading it used in that sense.

                  It's a good example; how did it occur to you?
                  What if I find someone else when looking for you? My soul shivers as the idea invades my mind.

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                    Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

                    Originally posted by Siamanto View Post
                    I think that the above example is a good reminder that the subtle complexities of a natural language cannot be fully captured by simple grammatical rules. Of course, it does not mean that the rule is incomplete; the ambiguity - i.e. polysemy of "pleasant" or "հաճելի" makes it a challenge - even without raising the question whether the Armenian "հաճելի" is equivalent to the English "pleasant."

                    If "հաճելի" is understood as "agreeable," "willing to please/agree" then yes; if "հաճելի" means "pleasant/enjoyable" then I'm inclined to say "No!" as I don't remember hearing/reading it used in that sense.

                    It's a good example; how did it occur to you?
                    I just thought of another adjective and that's what came up - probably b/c the two words have a similar connotation [sic]. Thanks for the clarification though as I'm never sure which to use.

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