Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

[yerazhishda]

Can anybody tell me the difference between «էր» (Imperfect) and «եղաւ» (Perfect)? i.e. what context do you use them in, examples etc.

For example what is the difference between these two sentences:

Ա - Գիրք մը կը կարդայի:
Բ - Գիրք մը կարդացի:

կամ

Ա - Մարդը ուրախ էր:
Բ - Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ:

Which is correct?

[TomServo]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

For example what is the difference between these two sentences:

Ա - Գիրք մը կը կարդայի:

I was reading a book.

Բ - Գիրք մը կարդացի:

I read a book.

Ա - Մարդը ուրախ էր:

The man was happy.

Բ - Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ:

The man became happy.

Which is correct?

Both?

[RareChik]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

They are all correct. It's just that they have different tenses.

[Mos]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

boooooo...western armenian

[TomServo]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

boooooo...western armenian

What's your բրոպլեմ?

[MrHyeSev]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

Boo....Western Armenian uhm ok,

How old are you 3 LOL

[Siamanto]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

Can anybody tell me the difference between «էր» (Imperfect) and «եղաւ» (Perfect)? i.e. what context do you use them in, examples etc.

For example what is the difference between these two sentences:

Ա - Գիրք մը կը կարդայի:
Բ - Գիրք մը կարդացի:

կամ

Ա - Մարդը ուրախ էր:
Բ - Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ:

Which is correct?

yerazhishda,
I agree with TomServo's translation; so I will simply add that, in Armenian, it's always??? possible to derive a verb from an adjective and it's preferable to say:

"Մարդը ուրախացաւ" instead of "Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ."

[yerazhishda]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

yerazhishda,
I agree with TomServo's translation; so I will simply add that, in Armenian, it's always??? possible to derive a verb from an adjective and it's preferable to say:

"Մարդը ուրախացաւ" instead of "Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ."

So you can say:

Այդ մարդը հաճեցաւ: instead of Այդ մարդը հաճելի եղաւ:

Right?

[Siamanto]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

yerazhishda,
I agree with TomServo's translation; so I will simply add that, in Armenian, it's always??? possible to derive a verb from an adjective and it's preferable to say:

"Մարդը ուրախացաւ" instead of "Մարդը ուրախ եղաւ."

So you can say:

Այդ մարդը հաճեցաւ: instead of Այդ մարդը հաճելի եղաւ:

Right?

I think that the above example is a good reminder that the subtle complexities of a natural language cannot be fully captured by simple grammatical rules. Of course, it does not mean that the rule is incomplete; the ambiguity - i.e. polysemy of "pleasant" or "հաճելի" makes it a challenge - even without raising the question whether the Armenian "հաճելի" is equivalent to the English "pleasant."

If "հաճելի" is understood as "agreeable," "willing to please/agree" then yes; if "հաճելի" means "pleasant/enjoyable" then I'm inclined to say "No!" as I don't remember hearing/reading it used in that sense.

It's a good example; how did it occur to you?

[yerazhishda]

Re: Difference between «էր» and «եղաւ»?

I think that the above example is a good reminder that the subtle complexities of a natural language cannot be fully captured by simple grammatical rules. Of course, it does not mean that the rule is incomplete; the ambiguity - i.e. polysemy of "pleasant" or "հաճելի" makes it a challenge - even without raising the question whether the Armenian "հաճելի" is equivalent to the English "pleasant."

If "հաճելի" is understood as "agreeable," "willing to please/agree" then yes; if "հաճելի" means "pleasant/enjoyable" then I'm inclined to say "No!" as I don't remember hearing/reading it used in that sense.

It's a good example; how did it occur to you?

I just thought of another adjective and that's what came up - probably b/c the two words have a similar connotation [sic]. Thanks for the clarification though as I'm never sure which to use.