A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

[londontsi]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

No independence as long as we are in Russia's so called protective pocket

Japan is in America's pocket.
South Korea is in America's pocket
Taiwan is in America's pocket
United Kingdom is in America's pocket.

I could go on.

There is no shame in this world for having alliances and "arrangements."

What matters is how you run your own country for the benefit of your people and not for your clique.

[Eddo211]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

No independence as long as we are in Russia's so called protective pocket

Armenia is and has been an independent country and in its declaration of independence recognizes Western Armenia as occupied territory...........unless you agree with some unintelligent Turkish views out there or some Sunni Muslim groups who don’t even list Armenia as a country then you must be uninformed. Which is it now?

[Joseph]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

Japan is in America's pocket.
South Korea is in America's pocket
Taiwan is in America's pocket
United Kingdom is in America's pocket.

I could go on.

There is no shame in this world for having alliances and "arrangements."

What matters is how you run your own country for the benefit of your people and not for your clique.

Actually, Turkey is now in Russia's pocket too. They hate to admit it but their trade also depends upon Russia and that dependence is growing.

[Eddo211]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

^^^^Not to mention Russia controls over 60% of Turkey's energy input, with Iran providing something close to 25%......I call that the Russian/Iranian leash on Turkey.

[mouradian]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

Japan is in America's pocket.
South Korea is in America's pocket
Taiwan is in America's pocket
United Kingdom is in America's pocket.

I could go on.

There is no shame in this world for having alliances and "arrangements."

What matters is how you run your own country for the benefit of your people and not for your clique.

I totally agree with the sentiment you raise, on the other hand I am not comfortable to be in the pocket of another country

if you ask me the question, what then?
I am afraid I don't have the answer to this multi million dollar question.

I guess brainstorming the issues may lead to some alternative thoughts

thank you for prompting me to respond

all the best

[mouradian]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

Actually, Turkey is now in Russia's pocket too. They hate to admit it but their trade also depends upon Russia and that dependence is growing.

Hi again Joseph,
I agree with that as I mentioned earlier

on the other hand I don't have a quick solution to the problem of being tied to another country

[mouradian]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

Armenia is and has been an independent country and in its declaration of independence recognizes Western Armenia as occupied territory...........unless you agree with some unintelligent Turkish views out there or some Sunni Muslim groups who don’t even list Armenia as a country then you must be uninformed. Which is it now?

I think we all know what sort of independence we are talking about Eddo

[londontsi]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

.....on the other hand I don't have a quick solution to the problem .....

I wouldn't worry, there isn't a problem !!

[lampron]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

I totally agree with the sentiment you raise, on the other hand I am not comfortable to be in the pocket of another country

if you ask me the question, what then?
I am afraid I don't have the answer to this multi million dollar question.

I guess brainstorming the issues may lead to some alternative thoughts

thank you for prompting me to respond

all the best

Geography has dictated many things. If Armenia had an outlet on the Black Sea coast, then its foreign policy would have been different. Armenia is pro Russian because there are many businessmen and politicians with strong links to Russia (same in Azerbaijan). It is pro Russian because many people speak Russian, watch Russian TV and listen to Russian music (same in Azerbaijan). It is pro Russian because of the politics of the Caucasus. We know that NATO's sympathies are with Turkey (obviously) and Azerbaijan

And I agree with others that Turkey is much closer to Russia than it has ever been. What is interesting is that well before many 'western' countries started investing, Turkish businessmen went into the far corners of Russia striking business deals and attending Russian language courses

[Mukuch]

Re: A document that sums up our pro-Armenian stance

Here is a word that shares the same sentiments:

Greeks gave meaning to the ultimate oath: "freedom or death."

I wonder what that corresponding phrase is in Armenian.

It would apply.

Mah kam Azatutyun!