Originally posted by Anoush
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Armenian "uniquenes." How unique are you people really? Your dress is the same as every other people's in the caucus. You all have long ponytails and colorful aprons covering your white dresses. All of you in the caucus dress the same and dance the same. The rhythmns and melodies of your music are the same, with only sight or no variations in your instruments. The differences in your languages have created you into different people, into what otherwise would have been the same shared history amongst all the descendents of those people who live in that region today. Instead of unified history that interfaced with the world around it, its was fragemented history for each and every people that was localized regionally and didn't project anywhere. There was a time you had an international presence (under Tigran) but that didnt last long. All of you in the caucus are now the same people that cling to the different histories of you different languages thereby perpetuating yourselves as different people. I went to school with a half-azeri half-armenian girl. How many intermarriages have there been between the caucus peoples? The Chechens converted themselves to Islam to prevent themselve from assimiliating into the Russians when their women began to marry their Orthodox Russian brothers.
You're all the same people. The only reason why there are differences is because everyone is clinging to their language. I read somewhere once "If you want to destroy a people, destroy their languag." Your ancestors are not only from Ancient Armenians, but Azeris, Georgians, Ossetians, Abkhazians hell, even Iranians and Greeks. Now your cultures have converged and the only thing anyone in that region has to claim or assert a separate identity is their language. A language divorced from the culture and beliefs of its ancient speakers.
This formula applies for almost all people, including Turks. We are nothing special. Unique, yes, just like you're unique. Us Turks are composites of the middle easterner peoples and original christian anatolians (including armenians). We do not have any semblance or much cultural resemblance to the people of Altaics - the original Turks. We too are distanced from our roots. Our cultures more resemble that of the northern midlle east (syria and some of iraq) and the levant. We have very similiar customs with the Greeks and the Persians. What happened to the Greeks with their togas?
You see, culture constantly evolves. Being Turkish is important to me in that it is an experience through a different culture and language, its not any reason for me to think I am inferior or superior to any group of people, including Armenians. Nationalism was this blind satanic religion that tore you Armenians apart from us. Did we ever commit crimes against you before the empire started to deteriorate when the outside forces were working hard to ignite self-realization amongst the many minorites of the Ottoman Empire?
Did you know before the nationalist explosion amongst Greeks, both Turkish and Greek Cypriots always thought of themselves as one unified Cypriot culture? Did you know to this day there are both Greek and Turkish Cypriots that identify themselves Cypriots and still accept their differences in ethinicity and relgion? Nationalism tore up the multi-ethnic state of the Ottman Empire.
You're turning what you are not just into and ideology (there is nothing wrong with that, except it could be ridiculous) but you're turning it into a dangerous ideology like supremists. You're claim of Armenians is so high, but if they were as tenacious and resilient as you assert, the silent genocide of assimiliation would never have happened; your people knowing that they have a great culture would have prompted them to militantly and dogmatically protect it - only the xxxs have been able to do that in history - instead of becoming like those degenerate rabiz you all are horrified with. There was I time I used to love my culture like you, but I realized its infatuation and not love. I can only direct my love at something that can guide me and preserve me. Has "Armenianism" been able to guide the rabiz of Glenoaks? I live in a Russian neighborhood in Brooklyn, and there are a substantial amount of other soviet bloc immigrants, including armenians. MAny i have met are nice. But the other many, off the boat, have earned Armenians a reputation of banditry. These unfortunate ones, from mother Armenia, are they defunct? Why couldn't Armenianism prompt them to live up to the definition of being Armenian? They were living up to the definition of being a regular human, thats for certain.
I won't discuss anymore of my thoughts of the heinous crime on a forum - not publicly - public discussion will hijack any effort to make meaningful way into that subject.
take no offense, i mean no hostility.




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